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GUN CONTROL,. WHAT WILL THE NEW PROPOSED LAWS BE?

 
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It will be the 1994 ban on steroids. If you have an "evil black rifle" you can keep it but you won't be able to sell it. If it breaks it will be illegal for a gun smith to work on it. Also no mfg of parts by anyone. It also will do nothing for lowering crime. But the Feinsteins of this world will have a feel good moment and pat themselves on the back.
 Quoting: indiandave


I tend to agree.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


Interesting tidbit here...

Any ban would only be inforcable via the interstate commerce clause.

If it's built and sold only in that states borders, it can't be inforced...or so I hear.
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So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips.


 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


yes. all firearms will be banned (you morons have abused
your privilege)

Except:

1 six-shooter revolver allowed for each person, for personal protection.

end of story
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Use both hands for gun control.
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So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips.


 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


yes. all firearms will be banned (you morons have abused
your privilege)

Except:

1 six-shooter revolver allowed for each person, for personal protection.

end of story
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


You are incorrect, IMO

They will not ban all firearms.
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It will be the 1994 ban on steroids. If you have an "evil black rifle" you can keep it but you won't be able to sell it. If it breaks it will be illegal for a gun smith to work on it. Also no mfg of parts by anyone. It also will do nothing for lowering crime. But the Feinsteins of this world will have a feel good moment and pat themselves on the back.
 Quoting: indiandave


I tend to agree.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


Interesting tidbit here...

Any ban would only be inforcable via the interstate commerce clause.

If it's built and sold only in that states borders, it can't be inforced...or so I hear.
 Quoting: Maguyver


That's interesting!
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So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips.


 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


yes. all firearms will be banned (you morons have abused
your privilege)

Except:

1 six-shooter revolver allowed for each person, for personal protection.

end of story
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


You are incorrect, IMO

They will not ban all firearms.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


Agreed. That's too much, too soon.

I can see what Saddletramp (I think that was his name) said earlier - registration coming.

That sounds likely.
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At the minimum:
1. Magazine capicity of more than 10 rounds prohibited.
2. Cannot purchase more than one gun a month.
3. 15 day waiting period for gun purchases.
4. Ban on all semi auto pistol and rifles.
5. Limit on the amount of ammunition purchased.
6. Holographic and laser sights limited to military and law enforcement only.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30230129


Why?

1) I hate reloading at the range and when stalking wild hogs.

2) What if I run across a deal on a rare gun I've wanted for years, but just also purchased a .22 Single Six for my daughter?

3) See #2 above...

4) See #1 above...(is a revolver a semi auto? It's one pull, one shot, too.

5) I can easily run through 1000 rounds in a day. Sometimes more, depending on what I'm shooting and what range I visit. What's too much?

6) laser sights are WAY over rated. But why ban them? Holographic sights are EXCELLENT hunting tools; quick target aquisition.

cheers
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Found this old Question site, it has some good questions and answers about the Mag issueJust some old dates. It also refers to the "LEO" marking.





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You guys rolling over already?






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Probably a buyback. The Government will pay good money for your guns.
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You guys rolling over already?






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chuckle

Nah. You been reading?
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You guys rolling over already?






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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29624185


Just being realistic.

We don't want gun control (well most of us) but we can see the road signs.
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Probably a buyback. The Government will pay good money for your guns.
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Probably a buyback. The Government will pay good money for your guns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29898248


HA a Buy back...your kidding right....They give you a $100.00 dollar bill or a gift card to wall mart. Way less then the value of the firearm.


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At the minimum:
1. Magazine capicity of more than 10 rounds prohibited.
2. Cannot purchase more than one gun a month.
3. 15 day waiting period for gun purchases.
4. Ban on all semi auto pistol and rifles.
5. Limit on the amount of ammunition purchased.
6. Holographic and laser sights limited to military and law enforcement only.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30230129


Ouch! I hope you're wrong.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


I think he's close but whatever they do, nothing will be fixed.

yoda
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At the minimum:
1. Magazine capicity of more than 10 rounds prohibited.
2. Cannot purchase more than one gun a month.
3. 15 day waiting period for gun purchases.
4. Ban on all semi auto pistol and rifles.
5. Limit on the amount of ammunition purchased.
6. Holographic and laser sights limited to military and law enforcement only.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30230129


Ouch! I hope you're wrong.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


I think he's close but whatever they do, nothing will be fixed.

yoda
 Quoting: MultiStrada


No, nothing will be fixed. I think we will go back to the assault rifle ban and smaller capacity mags......I live in California, that's how it's been here for a while now.
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Probably a buyback. The Government will pay good money for your guns.
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So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips.



On a side note I never ever again want to hear the phrase "we need to have this discussion as a country" ever again! It has been used to death these past 4-5 days.

So what do you think?



Edit* I was supposed to have a poll in this thread.......but I failed! lol
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


The proposals have been ready and waiting for a long time. They whip them out every excuse they get. You can expect something along the lines of the Clinton gun bans (capacity, method of fire) but two things stand in the way of any new significant gun ban becoming law.

1. Time. It will be about a month before congress even can get around to debating anything and that is time that will allow emotional knee jerk reactions to both cool off and get gun owner's to call their reps opposing it.

2. The House is more pro-gun now than it was when the Clinton gun ban or the Brady bill was passed and in both cases the next congressional election saw a bloodletting of Democrats they have never forgotten. It is more of a third rail in politics than Social Security.

I should probably give up trying to predict what the criminal, NWO, Washington DC, forked-tongued, double snake head congress will or won’t do, but my guess is near nothing because the House won’t allow it. Remember, we went through the same thing with Columbine, and Aurora, and the Giffords pre-planned fiasco. The only thing that happened after those events was that states expanded carry laws to make it easier for people to defend themselves without worrying that they would be treated like the criminals that attacked them.

The end result may be that Obama directs the BATFE try to re-word regulations to rule by fiat. A dictator is gonna do what a dictator is gonna do.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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Probably a buyback. The Government will pay good money for your guns.
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1rof1

Wow that's retarded.
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The DC gun registration was the testing ground for the new gun laws. I guarantee this will be the new national law:

[link to mpdc.dc.gov]


This legislation is already in place and ready to be implemented.
Once again they just needed the catalyst.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1319233


and obviously it has worked so well, as DC is now free of crime and gun deaths

lol

fwiw, they tried this in Canada, which is smaller and filled with people who trust government more than the US

it turned out to be expensive and never was fully implemented

this last year, they finally gave up on it, but hey, why should that stop us, right?
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So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips.



On a side note I never ever again want to hear the phrase "we need to have this discussion as a country" ever again! It has been used to death these past 4-5 days.

So what do you think?



Edit* I was supposed to have a poll in this thread.......but I failed! lol
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


The proposals have been ready and waiting for a long time. They whip them out every excuse they get. You can expect something along the lines of the Clinton gun bans (capacity, method of fire) but two things stand in the way of any new significant gun ban becoming law.

1. Time. It will be about a month before congress even can get around to debating anything and that is time that will allow emotional knee jerk reactions to both cool off and get gun owner's to call their reps opposing it.

2. The House is more pro-gun now than it was when the Clinton gun ban or the Brady bill was passed and in both cases the next congressional election saw a bloodletting of Democrats they have never forgotten. It is more of a third rail in politics than Social Security.

I should probably give up trying to predict what the criminal, NWO, Washington DC, forked-tongued, double snake head congress will or won’t do, but my guess is near nothing because the House won’t allow it. Remember, we went through the same thing with Columbine, and Aurora, and the Giffords pre-planned fiasco. The only thing that happened after those events was that states expanded carry laws to make it easier for people to defend themselves without worrying that they would be treated like the criminals that attacked them.

The end result may be that Obama directs the BATFE try to re-word regulations to rule by fiat. A dictator is gonna do what a dictator is gonna do.
 Quoting: Resister


I hope the house kills any gun ban legislation, but I have seen some Republicans sounding like liberals this last weekend.
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You guys rolling over already?






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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29624185


Just being realistic.

We don't want gun control (well most of us) but we can see the road signs.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*




Throwing the second amendment overboard now then?



Looks like you've ditched the first amendment too with the cops in connecticut threatening to arrest those who don't discuss the official versin of events regarding the school shooting.



You call it 'being realistic'
I call it 'rolling over'





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The DC gun registration was the testing ground for the new gun laws. I guarantee this will be the new national law:

[link to mpdc.dc.gov]


This legislation is already in place and ready to be implemented.
Once again they just needed the catalyst.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1319233


btw, what does this mean? What secret emergency amendments are they talking about???


ii. A copy or duplicate of any rifle described above, or any other rifle
developed and manufactured after the effective date of the Firearms Registration Emergency Amendment Act of 2008, enacted
on an emergency basis on January 6, 2009 (Act # 17-651),
regardless of caliber, if such rifle is capable of firing a projectile that
attains a muzzle energy of 12,000 foot-pounds or greater in any
combination of bullet, propellant, case, or primer
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Probably a buyback. The Government will pay good money for your guns.
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Give us your only means of protection, and we'll give you a shot that will cause you to die slowly. Hell of a deal!
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Yeah, how much fluoride do you need to drink to think that's a good deal?
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You guys rolling over already?






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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29624185


Just being realistic.

We don't want gun control (well most of us) but we can see the road signs.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*




Throwing the second amendment overboard now then?



Looks like you've ditched the first amendment too with the cops in connecticut threatening to arrest those who don't discuss the official versin of events regarding the school shooting.



You call it 'being realistic'
I call it 'rolling over'





.Toodlepips
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29624185


Call it what you wanna call it. We have had assault rifle bans before in this country. It's nothing new.

Can you guys even legally own forks over there in the uk?
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So what do you think will be coming? As for myself, I think they will ban assault rifles and large clips.


 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


yes. all firearms will be banned (you morons have abused
your privilege)

Except:

1 six-shooter revolver allowed for each person, for personal protection.

end of story
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


I sure hope you are being sarcastic, because if not, you sound like an idiot
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"after the Port Arthur massacre event in Tasmania (Australia) the subsequent gun laws that were rushed through did not include the Jewish community who still maintained full access to a wide range of weaponry "for the defence of the Jewish community who are under constant threat of attack". The ordinary Australian citizens were subjected to some of the most ludicrous gun laws which simply impacted on the honest citizens while the criminal elements continued to have their usual access to firearms with no impediment. So what will happen in the USA if "gun laws" are enacted? Will the Jewish community be exempted from the draconian laws? Of course they will - while the general masses will be forced to hand in their weapons thus preventing the potential for an armed revolution when they are sick of the corrupt political system that controls them. These "massacres" set the stage for the removal of firearms from the general population."
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Probably a buyback. The Government will pay good money for your guns.
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 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


Give us your only means of protection, and we'll give you a shot that will cause you to die slowly. Hell of a deal!
 Quoting: Chip


Yeah, how much fluoride do you need to drink to think that's a good deal?
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


Going to the Worcester, Massachusetts government website you start to understand why their citizens have begun to voluntarily giving up their second amendment responsibilities. Conditioning and programming are definitely the mind controlling factors at work here with the headline stating ‘kids and guns do not mix,’ then they say you have a higher chance of shooting your loved one than an intruder.

The fact that this program has collected over 2,200 guns in the past 10 years demonstrates that people will do as they are told and will take the advice of the highest form of authority over their own reasoning and common sense.

Keep your children safe with firearm training and self-defense classes and keep them healthy by avoiding these yearly toxic injections known as vaccinations.

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Someone please help me out, i have been wondering what will happen if this gun control law gets approved. Are they gonna go house by house to collect the guns? If not; there will still be millions of guns in the US, thus the "problem" won't go away. What's your opinion on this one guys?
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Someone please help me out, i have been wondering what will happen if this gun control law gets approved. Are they gonna go house by house to collect the guns? If not; there will still be millions of guns in the US, thus the "problem" won't go away. What's your opinion on this one guys?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14505884


It's not to the point where they will collect the already purchased firearms...Yet.
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