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Message Subject Great Britain: Black African gang members murder black kid confusing him for rival.
Poster Handle Manu-Koelbren
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The fact is that the anti gun rights stance is, everyone owning guns would be too dangerous, so let's just have people go out in the streets totally vulnerable to criminals who still will find ways to harm people and let those innocents get harmed or killed, the police will take care of the matter when it has already happened. This way people will be safer.

Does anyone else notice the utter idiocy of this shit argument?
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

No wait I have a better idea lets arm every lunatic in the nation so they can kill at will! That's pure genius. My original argument, not your slanted version is only shit if you already have shit for brains. Criminals have always found ways to harm others, and they always will. Giving them unlimited access to guns will only make matters worse. Learn some Krav maga or something if you are so frightened.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28390356


The fact is that the anti gun rights stance is, everyone owning guns would be too dangerous, so let's just have people go out in the streets totally vulnerable to criminals who still will find ways to harm people and let those innocents get harmed or killed, the police will take care of the matter when it has already happened. This way people will be safer.

Does anyone else notice the utter idiocy of this shit argument?
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

No wait I have a better idea lets arm every lunatic in the nation so they can kill at will! That's pure genius. My original argument, not your slanted version is only shit if you already have shit for brains. Criminals have always found ways to harm others, and they always will. Giving them unlimited access to guns will only make matters worse. Learn some Krav maga or something if you are so frightened.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28390356


First of all gun rights doesn't necessarily have to be a free for all, people should demonstrate work stability, no criminal records and pass a psychological test besides being able to demonstrate skill to use the weapons to get a permit. The matter of fact is that you even agree that criminals will always find ways to harm innocents, so the only difference that gun rights make is that innocent, decent people get a chance to defend themselves from that ever present threat from lunatics instead of being totally defenseless. Only people who have something to lose should be granted legal gun ownership, the rest will surely find a way to get guns illegally anyway.
If you have more good willing, decent folks in your society/community, gun rights will mean that anytime a lunatic tries to harm someone there will be several people around to stop him/her, and if the victim is alone he/she will at least stand a chance to protect him/herself. This creates an immediate deterrent for criminals as they risk being shot at anytime when carrying out criminal activity, instead of only after people call the cops or when cops are around (and cops everywhere have become extremely worthless to begin with).

And btw the condescending ad hominems do not make you look any smarter.
 
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