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"The History Channel documentary came to the conclusion that image 67, the Jesus symbol as I call that Circle Symbol, is pointing to the generally unrecognized 13th sign of the zodiac in the constellations, which Nostradamus did see there were 13 (not 12 as we have been led to believe), called Ophiuchus. This is right between Scorpio and Sagittarius…"
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This is INCREDIBLE!

It is all tying together. All on 12/21/12 at 11:11 UTC.
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Maybe its going to rain SHIT..and we will find ourselves up to our EARS in it...
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"The History Channel documentary came to the conclusion that image 67, the Jesus symbol as I call that Circle Symbol, is pointing to the generally unrecognized 13th sign of the zodiac in the constellations, which Nostradamus did see there were 13 (not 12 as we have been led to believe), called Ophiuchus. This is right between Scorpio and Sagittarius…"
full:
[link to 2012portal.myfeedportal.com]


This is INCREDIBLE!

It is all tying together. All on 12/21/12 at 11:11 UTC.
 Quoting: 2012Portal






Does 11:11 UTC mean morning or night?
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Something magical!.... then on the 22nd we'll all go out and shop for Christmas presents.
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I think around 6 minutes, part of what is in the main link from Discovery kicks in on this YouTube version:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


First part is also interesting, for they go over Edgar Cayce's view and how they fit into 2012.
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well, that was interesting, thank you for posting this.

It's gonna be a special day, wether anything happens or not.

tick-tock, 2 days to go:)
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Thread: 12/21/12 IT'S MY WEDDING DAY IN SEVEN DAYS!!!!!!!!!! ASK ME A QUESTION
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What struck me when I looked at the non-imposed version of the Last Supper from Leonardo Da Vinci, was how the 12 apostles parted from Jesus Chirst. Like he was glowing or giving off an energy field.

Then, when I super imposed the first sign used by early AD followers of Jesus onto the painting - "clicking" it in, so-to-speak on the half circle dome on the back-wall, above Jesus head and got this, to my amazement:

2012-Last-Supper
You can view it larger here or in the source article:
[link to www.graphicstart.com]

It is like they see this halo of sorts, encompassing him. Much like other paintings of Jesus depict:

[link to www.esgetology.com]
[link to www.goarch.org]
[link to www.gospelofthomas.info]
[link to www.stthomasaquinas.org]
this one is also from the last supper and very interesting imho:
[link to berengiritva312.files.wordpress.com]
Here it is in full size:
[link to berengiritva312.files.wordpress.com]

I mean, WOW, just amazing!

The wagon wheel symbol fits in the picture!
Mayan calendar (Aztec), Nostradamus plates, Jesus Christ!
 Quoting: 2012Portal

Well, that's not true because the guy portrayed is not Jesus Christ, but rather Cesare Borgia. Didn't God speak against graven images of the things in heaven? Why is it so hard for people to keep such a simple rule? Besides, the fact that Leonardo drew it honestly says enough.

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1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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"The History Channel documentary came to the conclusion that image 67, the Jesus symbol as I call that Circle Symbol, is pointing to the generally unrecognized 13th sign of the zodiac in the constellations, which Nostradamus did see there were 13 (not 12 as we have been led to believe), called Ophiuchus. This is right between Scorpio and Sagittarius…"
full:
[link to 2012portal.myfeedportal.com]


This is INCREDIBLE!

It is all tying together. All on 12/21/12 at 11:11 UTC.
 Quoting: 2012Portal






Does 11:11 UTC mean morning or night?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1430445


Morning. I believe 6:11 am EST
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What struck me when I looked at the non-imposed version of the Last Supper from Leonardo Da Vinci, was how the 12 apostles parted from Jesus Chirst. Like he was glowing or giving off an energy field.

Then, when I super imposed the first sign used by early AD followers of Jesus onto the painting - "clicking" it in, so-to-speak on the half circle dome on the back-wall, above Jesus head and got this, to my amazement:

2012-Last-Supper
You can view it larger here or in the source article:
[link to www.graphicstart.com]

It is like they see this halo of sorts, encompassing him. Much like other paintings of Jesus depict:

[link to www.esgetology.com]
[link to www.goarch.org]
[link to www.gospelofthomas.info]
[link to www.stthomasaquinas.org]
this one is also from the last supper and very interesting imho:
[link to berengiritva312.files.wordpress.com]
Here it is in full size:
[link to berengiritva312.files.wordpress.com]

I mean, WOW, just amazing!

The wagon wheel symbol fits in the picture!
Mayan calendar (Aztec), Nostradamus plates, Jesus Christ!
 Quoting: 2012Portal

Well, that's not true because the guy portrayed is not Jesus Christ, but rather Cesare Borgia. Didn't God speak against graven images of the things in heaven? Why is it so hard for people to keep such a simple rule? Besides, the fact that Leonardo drew it honestly says enough.
 Quoting: cmoG530


Very good warning! Yes, we should not IDOLIZE any image, at all. When you read all of Deuteronomy 4 that is clear. Here is an important part though:

Idolatry Forbidden


Deuteronomy 4:
15 You saw no form of any kind the day the Lord spoke to you at Horeb out of the fire. Therefore watch yourselves very carefully, 16 so that you do not become corrupt and make for yourselves an idol, an image of any shape, whether formed like a man or a woman, 17 or like any animal on earth or any bird that flies in the air, 18 or like any creature that moves along the ground or any fish in the waters below. 19 And when you look up to the sky and see the sun, the moon and the stars—all the heavenly array—do not be enticed into bowing down to them and worshiping things the Lord your God has apportioned to all the nations under heaven. 20 But as for you, the Lord took you and brought you out of the iron-smelting furnace, out of Egypt, to be the people of his inheritance, as you now are.

Deuteronomy 4 like a few other verses, is distinctly warning again idolatry.


You certainly do not, imho, want to wear a cross around your neck or this circle symbol or a painting. Keep in mind, symbols, like this circle, were a method of text, of communicating. As were paintings.


This text copied and pasted in part, summarizes it best for me:


So idolatry is not just venerating a statue, carving or painting. Idolatry occurs when we begin to value anything more than we value God. If we spend more time thinking about our hero than God, that's idolatry. If our every thought is about the latest gadget or our personal appearance, that's idolatry. If the first priority in our lives is our family, even that's idolatry.

When God said, "You shall have no other gods before Me" (Exodus 20:3
), He wasn't just talking about the imaginary deities that seem so ridiculous to us today. He was talking about anything that usurps His place as number one in our hearts. The solution to this problem is as simple (and as difficult) as Christ's admonition in Matthew 6:33
: "Seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness."

Full (source): [link to www.ucg.org]

I am not sure painting Jesus is wrong. It would be though if we idolized this "painting." It is merely a form of communication. At least that is what it should be seen as.

Jehovah God is Great, Jesus is Lord.
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I get where you're coming from, but no. It goes far deeper than that. We are told;


Deuteronomy 7:25-26 KJV
The graven images of their gods shall ye burn with fire: thou shalt not desire the silver or gold that is on them, nor take it unto thee, lest thou be snared therein: for it is an abomination to the Lord thy God.

[26] Neither shalt thou bring an abomination into thine house, lest thou be a cursed thing like it: but thou shalt utterly detest it, and thou shalt utterly abhor it; for it is a cursed thing.


Almost the ENTIRE world thinks that this image IS Christ. Isn't that scary, once we see that this image ISN'T Jesus?! Cursed is cursed. Would you have a Pentagram around you? Does God detest it? So, there is NO excuse to be around such evil. Why did God tell us we'd be cursed? Because they're demonic. They are engulfed with demonic properties and on many occasions effect people spiritually. I've seen it. If God says no, then He MEANS no. There is no running around it.


Let me ask you this. Would you put up a fake photo of your mother around you? What if she told you to not have fake photo's of her? Why should she even HAVE to tell you?


Deuteronomy 4:15-19 KJV
Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the Lord spake unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire:

[16] Lest ye corrupt yourselves , and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female,

[17] The likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged fowl that flieth in the air,

[18] The likeness of any thing that creepeth on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters beneath the earth:

[19] And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the Lord thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.


Where is Jesus? Where are the angels? Isn't Jesus male??? Don't give excuses for evil.

Besides, there's an even MORE darker reason behind this false image and Satan has been leading it up to this;


Matthew 24:23-26 KJV
Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

[24] For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

[25] Behold, I have told you before.

[26] Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.


Two words: BLUE BEAM


Think about it. The WORLD thinks this is Jesus! So, what if "Jesus" came to "rapture" his "people"? Guess what will happen?


All in all, God said sternly;


"[26] Neither shalt thou bring an abomination into thine house, lest thou be a cursed thing like it: but thou shalt utterly detest it, and thou shalt utterly abhor it; for it is a cursed thing."


We are not to bow, we are not to even BE around them. Idolatry is idolatry. All we need to know about the image of Jesus, is this;



John 1:1-5 KJV
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

[2] The same was in the beginning with God.

[3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

[4] In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

[5] And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.


I end with this. If you still don't see the error of your thoughts, ask yourself "Did God tell me that it's just about worshipping?"


Proverbs 3:5-7 KJV
Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

[6] In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

[7] Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the Lord , and depart from evil.



John 14:26 KJV
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.


Oh and for everyone else, check THIS out;


1 Corinthians 11:14-15 KJV
Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?

[15] But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.


God through Paul, wouldn't have even THOUGHT to say this, if Jesus did in FACT have long hair. I mean, he WOULD know more than any of us right? Pardon any spelling errors, it's late and I'm sleepy.




What struck me when I looked at the non-imposed version of the Last Supper from Leonardo Da Vinci, was how the 12 apostles parted from Jesus Chirst. Like he was glowing or giving off an energy field.

Then, when I super imposed the first sign used by early AD followers of Jesus onto the painting - "clicking" it in, so-to-speak on the half circle dome on the back-wall, above Jesus head and got this, to my amazement:

2012-Last-Supper
You can view it larger here or in the source article:
[link to www.graphicstart.com]

It is like they see this halo of sorts, encompassing him. Much like other paintings of Jesus depict:

[link to www.esgetology.com]
[link to www.goarch.org]
[link to www.gospelofthomas.info]
[link to www.stthomasaquinas.org]
this one is also from the last supper and very interesting imho:
[link to berengiritva312.files.wordpress.com]
Here it is in full size:
[link to berengiritva312.files.wordpress.com]

I mean, WOW, just amazing!

The wagon wheel symbol fits in the picture!
Mayan calendar (Aztec), Nostradamus plates, Jesus Christ!
 Quoting: 2012Portal

Well, that's not true because the guy portrayed is not Jesus Christ, but rather Cesare Borgia. Didn't God speak against graven images of the things in heaven? Why is it so hard for people to keep such a simple rule? Besides, the fact that Leonardo drew it honestly says enough.
 Quoting: cmoG530


Very good warning! Yes, we should not IDOLIZE any image, at all. When you read all of Deuteronomy 4 that is clear. Here is an important part though:

Idolatry Forbidden


Deuteronomy 4:
15 You saw no form of any kind the day the Lord spoke to you at Horeb out of the fire. Therefore watch yourselves very carefully, 16 so that you do not become corrupt and make for yourselves an idol, an image of any shape, whether formed like a man or a woman, 17 or like any animal on earth or any bird that flies in the air, 18 or like any creature that moves along the ground or any fish in the waters below. 19 And when you look up to the sky and see the sun, the moon and the stars—all the heavenly array—do not be enticed into bowing down to them and worshiping things the Lord your God has apportioned to all the nations under heaven. 20 But as for you, the Lord took you and brought you out of the iron-smelting furnace, out of Egypt, to be the people of his inheritance, as you now are.

Deuteronomy 4 like a few other verses, is distinctly warning again idolatry.


You certainly do not, imho, want to wear a cross around your neck or this circle symbol or a painting. Keep in mind, symbols, like this circle, were a method of text, of communicating. As were paintings.


This text copied and pasted in part, summarizes it best for me:


So idolatry is not just venerating a statue, carving or painting. Idolatry occurs when we begin to value anything more than we value God. If we spend more time thinking about our hero than God, that's idolatry. If our every thought is about the latest gadget or our personal appearance, that's idolatry. If the first priority in our lives is our family, even that's idolatry.

When God said, "You shall have no other gods before Me" (Exodus 20:3
), He wasn't just talking about the imaginary deities that seem so ridiculous to us today. He was talking about anything that usurps His place as number one in our hearts. The solution to this problem is as simple (and as difficult) as Christ's admonition in Matthew 6:33
: "Seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness."

Full (source): [link to www.ucg.org]

I am not sure painting Jesus is wrong. It would be though if we idolized this "painting." It is merely a form of communication. At least that is what it should be seen as.

Jehovah God is Great, Jesus is Lord.
 Quoting: 2012Portal

It is deeper than that, because this image is known throughout the entire world. It doesn't matter where people are from, almost the entire world thinks this image is Christ. Now, I ask you

Last Edited by cmoG530 on 12/19/2012 05:10 AM
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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Hi cmoG530

You are correct on many levels. Most importantly, you are living your life as you see The Word, through God has instructed you, us. Thank you for sharing your valuable insights.

In essence, anything of this world now, of this system of things, is corrupted. We should always be aware of that and concerned. Indeed Satan and his evil agents are busy all around us. Pray, as we are taught in the model prayer of Jesus (Matthew 6:9-13) to help keep this evil one and his agents away.

Very valid points about this painting being well-know and what it could mean from en evil stand-point. This all said, it is a work teaching us about God. Revelations and the signs of what will come is also from our Father. Certain things must come to pass. God made us, God loves us and Jesus, his Son, came down upon request to die for our sins.

That is the most important item to be reminded of.

When the disciples themselves asked Jesus;

Matthew 22:
36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

(NIV)

Peace be with you.

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Nothing will happen!
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Something is going to happen. For sure a galactic alignment. For sure fanfare beyond any doom date to date in recent memory. Y2k was not even doom of this kind, in theory. I guess it depends on ones definition of nothing!
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BTW cmoG530, I am also most concerned about Project Blue Beam [link to educate-yourself.org] at least for on the 21st itself.
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My humble opinion...There is no way all of the ancient advanced cultures dated this time ( or around it) as the end of the age. It is so much more than just MAYAN. I do believe that this is the end of the age. That said, funny little thing about this tribulation period that was also foretold would come. It is a given time period. An extension if you will. A time that will try men's souls to see WHO they will call god. Holding open a "gate" a given key to mankind to do so would do the job in my opinion. I think that is exactly what is happening. This extra time is short...hold fast and beware of what and who brings the peace and safety.hf
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My humble opinion...There is no way all of the ancient advanced cultures dated this time ( or around it) as the end of the age. It is so much more than just MAYAN. I do believe that this is the end of the age. That said, funny little thing about this tribulation period that was also foretold would come. It is a given time period. An extension if you will. A time that will try men's souls to see WHO they will call god. Holding open a "gate" a given key to mankind to do so would do the job in my opinion. I think that is exactly what is happening. This extra time is short...hold fast and beware of what and who brings the peace and safety.hf
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Good points. Somehow it seems they were able to make such calculations. Let's not forget, the Mayan's even came up with, mathematically, the concept of zero.

Well, that was more the Olmec's, but these peoples [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] - were part of the Mayan people.


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I wonder where Patrick Geryl is right about now?

Spain up in the mountains or someplace, right?
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cmoG530 could be right.

The masses have been presented an image of Christ that has been elevated to become the most widely recognized image in the world.

When in reality, we're told in the Bible that Jesus looked nothing like the image we see today.

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cmoG530 could be right.

The masses have been presented an image of Christ that has been elevated to become the most widely recognized image in the world.

When in reality, we're told in the Bible that Jesus looked nothing like the image we see today.

tomato
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Yes, totally agree about that.
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