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NRA Preparing To "Push Back" Against The Gun Control Idiots

 
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is Australia shill headquarters on gun control or what?
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Fuck yeah
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is Australia shill headquarters on gun control or what?
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Are people forgetting we have a Constitution that allows Americans to bare arms?
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at he time the 2nd amendment was written, rifles with 100 round mags didn't exist....in fact rifles of any sort never existed..only muskets and pistols were available.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30250506


Actually no. There were rifles, ever heard of the Kentucky rifle? There was at least one breech loading rifle,the Ferguson. The inventor was killed at the battle of Kings Mountain by American riflemen.

In any case your argument is null and void,the 2nd amendment specifically says arms. Meaning the framers knew that weapons technology would advance.
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merca merca the land of the free, merca merca guns for you and me! mercans mercans they shoot up their schools! mercans mercans say guns aren't to blame ! mercans mercans what a bunch of fools!
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How interesting.
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Are people forgetting we have a Constitution that allows Americans to bare arms?
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at he time the 2nd amendment was written, rifles with 100 round mags didn't exist....in fact rifles of any sort never existed..only muskets and pistols were available.
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Yes, but what did exist was the same weapons the government had.
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the govt. will ALWAYS have bigger and better toys than you.
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Even if true, so what?
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Are people forgetting we have a Constitution that allows Americans to bare arms?
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at he time the 2nd amendment was written, rifles with 100 round mags didn't exist....in fact rifles of any sort never existed..only muskets and pistols were available.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30250506


Yes, and those were the deadly weapons at the time. 100 years from now we will have Glock 17 laser handguns. What's your point?
 Quoting: sunspotkiller


the point is, if the govt. wanted to kill you they would drop a bomb on your head...gnomesayin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30250506


So you are suggesting the gubmint drop a bomb on their own people,on their own soil?

And you think this would be a successful strategy for the gubmint in an internal struggle?


rofl
s. d. butler

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did I say that?...where did I say i want you to be disarmed??
and why do you persist in the lie that Australians are disarmed?...we own guns, lots of them.
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I'm willing to admit I might be inaccurate in my assessment. However, you state "why do you persist" as if I've said this before, which I have not. Hence, you are embellishing your argument to create a straw man.

If what I've heard; that you guys were disarmed a few years ago is incorrect, then I stand corrected, sir.

See, this is how a conversation goes ... when I'm presented with facts that clear up prior inaccuracies, I admit I was wrong ... can you do the same?
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


sorry, I meant THE AMERICANS ON THE GLP keep on derping about Aussies being disarmed...this is simply not true.
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I learned something new today. AWESOME!

Thank you, sir, for saving me from further inaccuracy in my thinking of what were the facts.

EDIT: Now I have to wonder where this inaccurate assumption came from. Were you guys forced to give up handguns or something and we all just assumed that meant all firearms?

Hmmmm. Interesting.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


Essentially they are disarmed. There are heavy restrictions and licensing requirements.

I believe that self defense isn't a legal recognized use of a firearm.

So to say Australians aren't disarmed may be true but only in a technical sense. In my view it is misleading to claim otherwise.

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Our rights are taken away because the Patriots are outnumbered by the people who just live in our country, and the people who just live here are more inclined to rely on the government for safety, whether it be from terrorism, physical harm, biological harm, or economical harm.

We are a nation of people who live in fear. For me, I'd rather die than live in fear. Our founders felt the same way, and they did something about it.

If we don't organize and combat this with REAL protest now, then we WILL have to fight it later. Tell your friends to buy some arms. Grab a can of spray paint and tag in the most visible spot you can find the quotes of Jefferson, Washington, Franklin, and our other founders. Send a message so big the media can't ignore it. Send a message so powerful that our government fears it. Why should we live in fear from the people we gave the job of running the country? Why not threaten to take that away from them? WE AS A PEOPLE make the laws, THEY are elected to pass them. It's high time we stopped being a banana republic and return to the ideas of true democracy.

If there aren't millions in their town squares all over this nation screaming for Liberty before January 1st, then I've failed. We failed. Get the message out, the American People are the guardians of liberty, and we've got work to do.

Patriotism is reborn January 1st.
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Hmmm.... patriots, eh?

"Our rights are taken away because the Patriots are outnumbered by the people who just live in our country, and the people who just live here are more inclined to rely on the government for safety, whether it be from terrorism, physical harm, biological harm, or economical harm."

How exactly do you feel about the "patriots" destroying the Native population here to assert themselves forcefully and overtake a land that was already thriving? Our forefathers didn't really respect the rights of those people, did they?
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Oh probably not much more than Sitting Bull when he said the Black Hills belong to the Lakota. When asked where did you get the Black Hills, he said, "we took them from the Cheyenne".

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The funny thing is, All those people working for homeland security are following it blindly. They will clean the streets. They are Americans fighting other americans.

I hope the anti gun tards get a rifle stock planted in the ballsack.

Wish we Dutchtards could have weapons. I would revolt agianst my corrupt coverment. Yes with a C.



Ironic.
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Amid the tidal wave of shock and grief that followed the mass murder at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., the gun-control lobby immediately launched a well-coordinated campaign to pressure Congress and the Obama administration into enacting stricter regulation of guns and rifles.

These forces -- led by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y., and Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif. -- had the playing field largely to themselves.

That is soon to change.

Sources close to the issue tell Fox News that the National Rifle Association -- which has remained silent since the shooting, chiefly to allow for a proper period for mourning -- will soon start to "push back" against the gun-control lobby.

"If we're going to have a conversation, then let's have a comprehensive conversation," said one industry source. "If we're going to talk about the Second Amendment, then let's also talk about the First Amendment, and Hollywood, and the video games that teach young kids how to shoot heads.

"If you really want to stop incidents like this," the source continued, "passing one more law is not going to do a damn thing. Columbine happened when? In 1999. Smack in the middle of the original assault-weapons ban."


Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


you can add the following to the list:

Freedom of Religion

Weare instructed to arm ourselves:

Isaiah 51:7 "Hear me, you who know what is right, you people who have my law in your hearts: Do not fear the reproach of men or be terrified by their insults.”

". . . and he who has no sword, let him sell
his garment and buy one." according to
Jesus in Luke 22:36
Yesteryear the “sword” was the equivalent to today’s ak47; the slingshot, the handgun.

"Praise be to the LORD my Rock, who trains my hands for
war, my fingers for battle" Psalm 144:1

Psalm 149:6
"Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two-edged sword in their hand."
That would probably be the equivalent to two ak47's, one under each arm.

Right to bear arms being trampled upon:
[link to www.therepublic.com]

Hosea 4:6:
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:
[link to www.youtube.com]

OH YEAH! The United States Of America is in fact a Christian Nation
or Israel cannot be a Jew Nation:
[link to paminifarm.jeeran.com]
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Are people forgetting we have a Constitution that allows Americans to bare arms?
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legal gun owners aren't forgetting nor will they be told to fuck the 2nd....its the corrupt govt. thats forgetting that we have a Constutition....I say fuck the govt....
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I agree, FUCK THEM! Also, the moron politicians do not seem to understand that by their actions they are going to have a whole hell of a lot more illegal guns in the populace. I will have the same weapons as the police, if they ban assault rifles, then start with the military & police.
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still waters run deep
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still waters run deep
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I am counting on that.

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So let me get this straight they want to take away the games that teach kids how to shoot but they want to let everyone have guns..... How can you be for everyone having guns but against things that you say teaches people how to use them?
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So let me get this straight they want to take away the games that teach kids how to shoot but they want to let everyone have guns..... How can you be for everyone having guns but against things that you say teaches people how to use them?
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a video teaches devaluing life. A video doesn't teach how to "use them".
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I don't trust the federal government -- AT ALL.

Bureaucrats with better armament than I have?

I DON'T THINK SO - NOT IN THIS UNIVERSE
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Guns don't kill.

People kill.





It the behavior of the human that needs to be addressed not gun control.


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that's EXACTLY why america needs to make sure weapons don't get in the hands of the mentally ill...
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They could just as easily commandeer a 5000 lb suv and drive through a crowd of people, should we ban those too?
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Australia:
[link to www.heraldsun.com.au]
A GROUP of shaken youths watched police canvass their home following the latest shooting incident in Sydney&#146;s south west overnight.
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Are people forgetting we have a Constitution that allows Americans to bare arms?
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at he time the 2nd amendment was written, rifles with 100 round mags didn't exist....in fact rifles of any sort never existed..only muskets and pistols were available.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30250506


Uh...wrong. Ever heard of the Pennsylvania Rifle Regiment? The Kentucky Long Rifle? It's how we whipped the limped-wristed Euro-fags the first time around when they tried to take our guns...and we'll do it again.
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The reality of the second amendment is that all people may keep military grade ARMS and no law can infringe that.

However, none of you fine ladies and gents are "people" as defined in the original Constitution.

You are, in fact, "citizens" - employee-SUBJECTS of the U.S. corporation, if you have a social security number.

If you do NOT have a social security number, you are an enemy combatant...oops.

These are things that cannot be stated in the public media, but it should help your understanding of the subject.
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shortly after Obama wins reelection the shooting happens and we need to talk about gun control..

anyone have a feeling even more sinister shit is going to happen in Obama's last term..im talking false flag fiesta
destroy America in next 4 years kinda deal
z3bo
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propoganda
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Are people forgetting we have a Constitution that allows Americans to bare arms?
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at he time the 2nd amendment was written, rifles with 100 round mags didn't exist....in fact rifles of any sort never existed..only muskets and pistols were available.
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Are people forgetting we have a Constitution that allows Americans to bare arms?
 Quoting: sunspotkiller


at he time the 2nd amendment was written, rifles with 100 round mags didn't exist....in fact rifles of any sort never existed..only muskets and pistols were available.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30250506


At the time muskets and pistols WERE state of the art.

Pistols and muskets were what the British army had, so the US rebels were equally armed

The 2nd amendment is not a right to go deer hunting

the 2nd amendment is a reset button on the govenment, and to do that citizens must be armed to the same degree as the military

end of story
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Headline: "Another day, another shooting"

Australia:
[link to www.heraldsun.com.au]
A GROUP of shaken youths watched police canvass their home following the latest shooting incident in Sydney&#146;s south west overnight.
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propoganda
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That makes no sense whatsoever.
So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
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propoganda
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bushtard
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did I say that?...where did I say i want you to be disarmed??
and why do you persist in the lie that Australians are disarmed?...we own guns, lots of them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30259866


I'm willing to admit I might be inaccurate in my assessment. However, you state "why do you persist" as if I've said this before, which I have not. Hence, you are embellishing your argument to create a straw man.

If what I've heard; that you guys were disarmed a few years ago is incorrect, then I stand corrected, sir.

See, this is how a conversation goes ... when I'm presented with facts that clear up prior inaccuracies, I admit I was wrong ... can you do the same?
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


sorry, I meant THE AMERICANS ON THE GLP keep on derping about Aussies being disarmed...this is simply not true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30259866



well....you don't appear to know much abt Aussie gun laws, champ!!
sure...Aussies own guns.....and, to be fair, there's quite a few who do!
BUT.....they are only allowed to own them under some of the most stringent and restrictive conditions imaginable......to use the 'Strine vernacular.....it is "a Clayton's right"....the "right" you have when you don't have a right!

the first and foremost restriction on Aussies owning fire-arms is:
they are NOT allowed to use them for self-defence purposes and self-defence is NOT a legitimate or valid reason to own a fire-arm!

to actually own/possess a fire-arm, you have to go through a long, intricate and convulted process that takes the best part of a year!

i/you have to have a "squeaky clean" criminal and mental health record.....and that means....you can't even have been convicted of knocking off a bag of "Minties" from the local SafeWay when you were a 10-yr old kid!.....and.....if you are on any "psychotropic"-type medications.....even mild anti-depressants.....forget abt it!

ii//you have to join a gun club;

iii/you have to be a member in good standing for @ least six months and practise regularly @ the range;

iv/you have to have what is called "a valid and genuine" reason to now apply for a shooters license.....that usually involves some-one @ the gun-club "seconding" yr application for a shooters license....which.....you can apply for after the six months!

v/after the six months, you can apply for a shooters' license....which usually takes up to six weeks to be processed!

(during that six week period.....)
vi/in the meantime, you have to acquire an "approved" gun safe and have it bolted to a concrete or solid wooden floor;

vii/a local cop must then verify that the gun safe meets the prescribed requirements;

viii/a bureaucrat/cop from the Firearms Registration Bureau now visits you and "double checks" that the safe is satisfactory and that yr place of residence is suitable for such a safe....you are also interviewed "put through the wringer"/"given the third degree" by this person....or.....there might well be more than one!

ix/after about six weeks, you are issued with yr shooters license....which is a photo ID/drivers' license type set-up....although, i believe that, in some Australian states, you can simply get an "endorsement" on your drivers license.....but.....it still takes the same amount of time!

x/OK.....you are now ready to purchase a fire-arm and ammunition......but.....there is ONE MORE HURDLE......you now need what is called "a permit to acquire".....that's right!!........you have to get a "permit" for EVERY GUN you purchase....although......you *may* be able to get more than one gun of the same type.....so.......a PtA could cover, say, two or more under-and-over shotguns.....the waiting period for a PtA is, usually, abt 28-days......but....in many cases....it is much longer....up to six months if there is a "back-log"

types of fire-arms that CANNOT be purchased: ALL semi-automatic rifles (including semi-automatic "22"-clbrs); ALL semi-automatic shotguns, ALL pump-action shotguns....(to be fair: you CAN purchase a lever-action shotgun, though....which is almost as good as a pump-action shotgun)

**storage requirements**
ALL firearms must be stored separately from ammunition (in a separate, locked compartment of the gun safe) and in an UN-loaded condition and with the BREECH BLOCK or bolt removed, where possible!

you CANNOT purchase any type of hand-gun.......that requires a much more complex and convulted process that i will not go into here.....and.....it can take up to TWO YEARs to jump through all the hoops!

additionally restrictive, *pending legislation* that is due or has been passed in either NSW or Qld.......

(a)all ammunition that you purchase must now require a special, individual PtA (that must be hard-linked to the particular gun you want it for....that is: you CANNOT purchase ammunition for a fire-arm that is not registered to you!)....and you are limited in the amount you can purchase......

(b)fire-arms over a certain calibre will soon be BANNED completely......the cut-off calibre will be some-thing like 7mm Remington magnum......any-thing over that.....will then be prohibited!

(c)lever-action rifles may soon be BANNED completely!

**how you can lose your shooters license FOR good**

(1)by using yr fire-arm for ANY purpose not stated on your application form.....so.....if you stated: "target shooting" and you use it for, say, duck-hunting.....that's a cancellation!

(2)as the result of a random, spot inspection by police (which can happen, pretty much any-time!).....your fire-arms are found not secured in your gun safe....(exception: you have the fire-arms removed for cleaning purposes)..........OR......un-secured ammunition is found in your place of residence!

(3)as the result of an "intervention order"....which can be taken out by a disgruntled spouse for, basically, no reason and on the basis of no real evidence except a statement that they say it's so!

(4)if you *verbally* threaten some-one!

(5)if you are involved in ANY sort of physical altercation that comes to the attention of the police.....even if you are legitimately defending your-self or your family from attack!!

(6)if you use your fire-arm against a burglar or home-invader!

(7)on the basis of an anonymous telephone call to the Firearms Registration Bureau;

(8)if you are CHARGED ("charged", not convicted!) or SUSPECTED of any criminal offence.....even "a statutory or summary offence" which involve only on-the-spot fines!

(9)if the Chief Commissioner of Police deems you "not a fit and proper person" to have a shooters license.....this is the "catch all" opt-out clause that, basically, gives the authorities the carte blanche right to cancel your license for no real reason wht-so-ever!

*note* there may well be other reasons that i'v forgotten.....but.....the above are the main ones, i think!!

the totally bogus, FALSE FLAG incident that dis-armed Australia:

[link to www.southeastasianews.org] ;
[link to www.facebook.com] ;

good FB site with info' on Australian gun laws:
[link to www.facebook.com] ;

this "pdf" gives some good info on the massive increase in violent crime in 0zz since these new gun laws were introduced some 15-odd yrs ago:

[link to gunfacts.info] ;

home invasions, serious assaults, car-jackings, road rage incidents, armed robberies (especially on small businesses!), homicides and attempted homicides have all SKY-rocketed!


cheers!

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anything to distract from the fact that the second ammendment is a whopping fail.


during every american presidents 4 yr term, more americans murder each other with guns than american servicemen killed in the entire vietnam war.


undeniable fact that just speaks for itself.


those who want the assualt type weapons and handguns think this is a fair price to pay.



dead kids are worth it to them


it is simply a a culture of death no other country suffers, and the NRA and their supporters call it freedom.
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