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Adam Lanza was on Fanapt, an antipsychotic drug with violence as a side effect | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7033199  United States12/18/2012 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it goes a lot deeper than just this one event. Tucson Aurora Newtown all connected answers here Thread: Shooting Massacres - Big Money Wars and Psy-Ops for profits |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29864025 United States12/19/2012 12:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Abnormal or uncontrollable movements of the face, tongue, or other parts of the body may be signs of a serious condition called tardive dyskinesia (TD), which could become permanent Quoting: CE1 Fanapt may cause aggressive/violent behavior (frequent). This drug may also cause the following symptoms that are related to aggressive/violent behavior: Hyperactivity (uncommon) Impulse control problems (uncommon) Mania (uncommon) Restlessness (uncommon) I'm on the max dosage of fanapt 24mg per day and have NO inclination to do violence to anyone. Had a bit of that TD years ago when I was on risperdol. Face twitch. Not good can be permanent. Be careful missing any pills, drinking any alcohol or pot with it. Even just a sudden fluctuation in med levels can send things off AWOL.Mayo clinic does genetic tests now when using SSRI's and antipsychotics to see which enzyme P450 subsets you have to metabolize or not your pills and help assess how caffeine and OTC herbs can interact besides pot. Pot interferes and deactivates two major P450 subsets most of the antipsychotics use to metabolize. So if you chilled out with it AND took the wacko pills it targets you for trouble.About 10% of population are lacking in these pathways any way which a clue is it takes alot more pain medicine to work and much more to put you under anesthesia. IMHO the effects from these "magic"pills is WORSE by far than the situation they are given to "ïmprove".Suppose you took these pills for depression. You would be far worse off depressed if when you returned to your body or senses to find while you were 'absent' you slaughtered your family or town folks. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29864025 United States12/19/2012 12:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | to wean yourself off psycho meds: [link to www.theroadbackprogram.com] notice the 2D6 and 3A cytochrome P450 enzyme metablizing paths these are the two marijuana disables and some population are missing period. [link to www.primarypsychiatry.com] See how complicated this is?All ethical psychiatrists would be doing these specific $1500 genotyping tests you use to figure out what is safe for the community AND the recipient.Most pill pushers are just after the buck and do the least work not caring what maniac you turn into as that gives them just more business to treat. Look how much business the whole industry gets just over this shooting. They are leaping for joy...more families to get hooked on their mega expensive effects pills. Now we have Fanapt to thank for keeping the media employed, the cops employed, the shrink wards and talk tanks over grief, etc. Look at all the jobs it just gave to all those at risk for no job Americans. |
| zenobiaphobia Dancing to the beat of a skinless drum  User ID: 30271413 United States12/19/2012 12:47 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | notice the 2D6 and 3A cytochrome P450 enzymmetabolizingng paths these are the two marijuana disables and some population are missing period. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29864025 [link to www.primarypsychiatry.com] See how complicated this is? If you are a physician or pharmacist....Check out cannabis plus propranolol. There is a nicestabilizing mix. Only one study unfortunately: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] Books relevant to our current situation will appear here at random: [link to archive.org] |
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| Nexus-9 (OP) User ID: 1368022 United States12/19/2012 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gawker should take note of this conspiracy "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
| waterlily User ID: 19961452 United States12/19/2012 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, a great resource. Quoting: Nexus-9 Prescription-Drug-Induced Violence Medicine's Best Kept Secret? Data Based Medicine Americas Ltd. announces free online tool to show possible links between prescription drugs and violence. Toronto, Canada (PRWEB) November 12, 2012 RxISK.org, the first free independent website for researching and reporting prescription drug side effects, has added a Violence Zone to demonstrate and collect data on the links between prescription drugs and violent thoughts and behavior — from mild to suicidal or homicidal. “Violence and other potentially criminal behavior caused by prescription drugs are medicine’s best kept secret,” says Dr. David Healy, a world-renowned psychiatrist who has written extensively about the lack of data in evidence-based medicine, including in his latest book, Pharmageddon. Healy says this is a global issue, with medical, legal, ethical, and profound public policy dimensions. “Never before in the fields of medicine and law have there been so many events with so much concealed data and so little focused expertise.” Can prescription drugs cause you to kill someone? “Absolutely”, says Healy. (emphasis added) [link to www.prweb.com] This site is an excellent resource. It needs to be kept up front in this thread, I think. Just reading the personal experiences will give you the willies, just knowing that hundreds of thousands of people in schools, offices, supermarkets, public transportation are on this poison. *** WaterLily *** |
| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 United States12/20/2012 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey if I get a guy in a white coat to give me some weed, will the police leave me alone if they catch me smoking some? I promise I wouldn't be angry when coming down like off whatever strange cocktail these pharmacists come up with. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3960495 I believe weed needs to be legalized just for these type situations. Me too! How many people discussed this over a bunch of alcohol and got terrible headaches the next day and a hangover! Plus drove a car while intoxicated and ran somebody over.  Do yourself a favor and watch this amazing video. "Leonard Shlain proposes that the process of learning alphabetic literacy (left-brain) rewired the human brain, with profound consequences for culture." He demonstrates the upward curve humanity is in by combining the impact of archeology, myth and inventions on the mind. [link to youtu.be] |
| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 United States12/20/2012 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Abnormal or uncontrollable movements of the face, tongue, or other parts of the body may be signs of a serious condition called tardive dyskinesia (TD), which could become permanent Quoting: CE1 Fanapt may cause aggressive/violent behavior (frequent). This drug may also cause the following symptoms that are related to aggressive/violent behavior: Hyperactivity (uncommon) Impulse control problems (uncommon) Mania (uncommon) Restlessness (uncommon) I'm on the max dosage of fanapt 24mg per day and have NO inclination to do violence to anyone. Had a bit of that TD years ago when I was on risperdol. Face twitch. Not good can be permanent. Do you watch violent video games? Did your parents divorce when you were a young teen? Did your parents move to a new town where you didn't know anybody? Were you given all the material things you could ever desire, but isolated from family and society at large? Was your relationship with the only person in your life based on target practice and guns? Were you given drugs to shut you up so you could fit into society...or did somebody actually care and try to help you in other ways too? I could go on and on...but you can't compare just taking the same drug with the rest of the things we are aware of about this boy's tragic life. Do yourself a favor and watch this amazing video. "Leonard Shlain proposes that the process of learning alphabetic literacy (left-brain) rewired the human brain, with profound consequences for culture." He demonstrates the upward curve humanity is in by combining the impact of archeology, myth and inventions on the mind. [link to youtu.be] |
