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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30262729 Panama 12/18/2012 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think the powers that be devised the shooting. However, I do think these medications' side effects need to be focused on. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1478493 We need to know if he was on meds when this happened or if had just come off them. TPTB devise all events of this magnitude especially when there is an official script being forced upon you. That is the tell tale sign. They are pushing a story line on you before the investigation has even started. |
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Unit3 User ID: 9834739 United States 12/18/2012 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On MSM last night, they interviewed a teacher who knew Adam. The teacher said Adam did not feel pain, even when he got cut. This information needs to go to the NRA, if you ask me. And I don't own a gun nor do I plan to own one. But, I don't like watching gun control railroaded! I've seen plenty of videos of someone carrying, who stops a crime. "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
Nexus-9 (OP) User ID: 1368022 United States 12/18/2012 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, just had a thought. What would really turn this whole thing on its ear (against gun control) is if a law suit was filed on behalf of the victims parents against the pharmaceutical company that makes Fanapt, as a linked cause to the violence, based on the drugs known side effects to cause violence. Any lawyers in the house? Last Edited by Nexus-9 on 12/18/2012 05:46 PM "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
UseLess RepEATER User ID: 1161385 United States 12/18/2012 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Drug issue aside, how could a single shooter have pumped 3-11 (3 X 11=33) rounds into 26 or 27 people? The guy got by the secured entrance concealing an AR-15, or was it two hand guns? Wasn't the AR-15 found in the back of the nearby car? Oh wait, the Chief Med. Examiner said they were all killed by assault rifle fire? The details are as clear as mud by design. Last Edited by UseLessRepEATER on 12/18/2012 05:45 PM Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies..... Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. ~H. L. Mencken~ We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. ~Plato~ When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic. ~Dresden James~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30263557 United States 12/18/2012 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Fact: At least fourteen recent school shootings were committed by those taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs resulting in 109 wounded and 58 killed (in other school shootings, information about their drug use was never made public—neither confirming or refuting if they were under the influence of prescribed drugs.) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2164937 Fact: Between 2004 and 2011, there have been over 11,000 reports to the U.S. FDA’s MedWatch system of psychiatric drug side effects related to violence. These include 300 cases of homicide, nearly 3,000 cases of mania and over 7,000 cases of aggression. Note: By the FDA’s own admission, only 1-10% of side effects are ever reported to the FDA, so the actual number of side effects occurring are most certainly higher." [link to www.cchrint.org] Michael Moore Reveals the real cause of Columbine Uh...so what do you think should be done for people with mental illness?...nothing? |
Unit3 User ID: 9834739 United States 12/18/2012 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, just had a thought. Quoting: Nexus-9 What would really turn this whole thing on its ear (against gun control) is if a law suit was filed on behalf of the victims parents against the pharmaceutical company that makes Fanapt, as a linked cause to the violence, based on the drugs known side effects to cause violence. Any lawyers in the house? Great idea. Let's spread it around. "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29744072 Australia 12/18/2012 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Figures.... Quoting: Nexus-9 The Antipsychotic Prescribed To Adam Lanza Has A Troubled History All Its Own By now the whole country is fully embroiled in the Gun Control debate, spurred by the grisly murder of 27 people, mostly kids, at the Sandy Hook Elementary school last Friday. Guns might not be the only problem though. New York Magazine wrote a piece about shooter Adam Lanza's supposed "aspergers" syndrome as a "red herring" meant to distract from the real problem (guns, of course, the subject goes without mentioning). Inside the piece though they report Adam Lanza's uncle said the boy was prescribed Fanapt, a controversial anti-psychotic medicine. Fanapt was the subject of a Bloomberg report when it passed regulators, after previously getting the "nonapproval" stamp. Why wasn't it approved, you might ask? Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com] Here's a list of reported side effects of the prescription drug, Fanapt, that Lanza was on at the time - Restlessness - Aggression - Delusion - Hostility - Decreased libido - Paranoia - Angorasmia - Confusional state - Mania - Catatonia ...and many more. See link ----> [link to doublecheckmd.com] Call me ignorant, but isn't preventing psychosis and violence the whole point of an ANTI-psychotic drug? |
Unit3 User ID: 9834739 United States 12/18/2012 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Fact: At least fourteen recent school shootings were committed by those taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs resulting in 109 wounded and 58 killed (in other school shootings, information about their drug use was never made public—neither confirming or refuting if they were under the influence of prescribed drugs.) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2164937 Fact: Between 2004 and 2011, there have been over 11,000 reports to the U.S. FDA’s MedWatch system of psychiatric drug side effects related to violence. These include 300 cases of homicide, nearly 3,000 cases of mania and over 7,000 cases of aggression. Note: By the FDA’s own admission, only 1-10% of side effects are ever reported to the FDA, so the actual number of side effects occurring are most certainly higher." [link to www.cchrint.org] Michael Moore Reveals the real cause of Columbine Uh...so what do you think should be done for people with mental illness?...nothing? I think something that would help is to change curriculum in the schools. First off, make it less left minded plus divide the kids according to testing to see which skills they need to develop. It would be easy to let psychologist's set up testing so areas of concern could be addressed. Psychologist's could also be involved in setting up the curriculum. For example, test the kids each year. Whoever is short in empathy, they take courses in humanitarianism skills. This would replace current curriculum. If everybody is taking classes that have to do with developing skills, there is no stigma. "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30263557 United States 12/18/2012 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's a list of reported side effects of the prescription drug, Fanapt, that Lanza was on at the time Note the wording...this means if you're treating psychotic people, they are going to sometimes report psychotic symptoms...because they are psychotic. |
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Jonny Blaze User ID: 22472711 United States 12/18/2012 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course he was. This is why he was chosen as the patsy. The pattern with the mass shootings is someone who has a 'mental illness' of some sort yielding a mask, gun, and bullet resistant/proof clothing with amazing quick killing efficiency. They want us to believe he was psychotic, but yet had enough wits about him to pull something like that off. It may be that he did do it and he was on this anti-psychotic drug, but I doubt it. I think he was on the drug, but he was used as the fall guy and his mother was killed as well. Last Edited by Jonny Blaze on 12/18/2012 06:06 PM The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank." The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects. The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard. The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8788578 United States 12/18/2012 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think this is an important consideration, but I don't hear about it being discussed in main stream media. Quoting: Nexus-9 Friday evening, CNN featured an "expert" (Lisa Van Susteren) who claimed that the shooter had exhibited warning signs, but no one spoke up, and that we need to get these troubled people on medication before they snap and turn violent - completely ignoring the fact that these guys are always *already* on some type of meds. |
Nexus-9 (OP) User ID: 1368022 United States 12/18/2012 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Figures.... Quoting: Nexus-9 The Antipsychotic Prescribed To Adam Lanza Has A Troubled History All Its Own By now the whole country is fully embroiled in the Gun Control debate, spurred by the grisly murder of 27 people, mostly kids, at the Sandy Hook Elementary school last Friday. Guns might not be the only problem though. New York Magazine wrote a piece about shooter Adam Lanza's supposed "aspergers" syndrome as a "red herring" meant to distract from the real problem (guns, of course, the subject goes without mentioning). Inside the piece though they report Adam Lanza's uncle said the boy was prescribed Fanapt, a controversial anti-psychotic medicine. Fanapt was the subject of a Bloomberg report when it passed regulators, after previously getting the "nonapproval" stamp. Why wasn't it approved, you might ask? Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com] Here's a list of reported side effects of the prescription drug, Fanapt, that Lanza was on at the time - Restlessness - Aggression - Delusion - Hostility - Decreased libido - Paranoia - Angorasmia - Confusional state - Mania - Catatonia ...and many more. See link ----> [link to doublecheckmd.com] Call me ignorant, but isn't preventing psychosis and violence the whole point of an ANTI-psychotic drug? Truth to the matter, these drugs are quite the gamble. watch and learn [link to www.thesaveproject.com] "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29130443 Canada 12/18/2012 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | HIS "UNCLE" THOUGHT HE MIGHT BE ON A CERTAIN DRUG... Yeah -- we know all about those 'uncles' on GLP. They're real trustworthy. You just know the intel is good when it comes from the UNCLE. ADAM LANZA WAS INNOCENT OF KILLING ANYONE -- HE WAS FRAMED! Please stop repeating mainstream lies about him. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30199926 United States 12/18/2012 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Call me ignorant, but isn't preventing psychosis and violence the whole point of an ANTI-psychotic drug? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2164937 That's what the pharma companies want you to think. The results speak otherwise. Psychiatric drugs do not 'prevent' anything, they are used to treat it. Since the results from any one prescription have varying degrees of effectiveness and are often used in combination with other prescriptive drugs, it's often hit and miss and on to the next cocktail to find out what works best for an individual. |
Nexus-9 (OP) User ID: 1368022 United States 12/18/2012 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YUP ITS OFFICIAL, THE MAINSTREAM CNN JUST SAID THE KILLER WAS NOT TAKING ANY MEDICATIONS. HEARD IT TWICE LAST HOUR. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26548545 KEEP THE STORY ON THE STORY LINE FOLKS, GUNS BAD. Yeah, and how many times have CNN got the story right? So, Adam Lanza, who by witnesses accounts say he was a disturbed kid, who's brother said he had a personality disorder, whose family is wealthy and would do anything for their child, never had a medical child psychiatrist, never had prescribed medication? The truth will come out, CNN. "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25276568 United States 12/18/2012 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Top ten prescription drugs linked to violent behavior: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29729580 1. Varenicline (Chantix): The number one violence-inducing drug on the list, this anti-smoking medication is 18 times more likely to be linked with violence when compared to other drugs 2. Fluoxetine (Prozac): This drug was the first well-known SSRI antidepressant 3. Paroxetine (Paxil): Another SSRI antidepressant, Paxil is also linked with severe withdrawal symptoms and a risk of birth defects 4. Amphetamines: (Various): Used to treat ADHD 5. Mefoquine (Lariam): A treatment for malaria which is often linked with reports of strange behavior 6. Atomoxetine (Strattera): An ADHD drug that affects the neurotransmitter noradrenaline 7. Triazolam (Halcion): This potentially addictive drug is used to treat insomnia 8. Fluvoxamine (Luvox): Another SSRI antidepressant 9. Venlafaxine (Effexor): An antidepressant also used to treat anxiety disorders 10. Desvenlafaxine (Pristiq): An antidepressant which affects both serotonin and noradrenaline Allot of these drugs are 'fluoridated' too in that they contain fluorine atoms as part of the structure. Pretty neat. I am ADHD, and I'm happily medicated with amphetamines, I have to say that amphetamines are not nearly as bad as people make them out to be. They have been prescribing amphetamine to adults and children for 80 years. The effects short and long term are well known, many of these new drugs have never really been tested on humans. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30263557 United States 12/18/2012 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sad truth is, all the antipsychotic drugs in the world won't stop some of these people from doing horrible, crazy things. Back in the day, there used to be asylums, funded by the government, where these people could be institutionalized, for the safety of all, for the rest of their lives if need be. Then, I guess in the 70s and beyond, your government decided they weren't going to fund these institutions any longer, and encouraged medicating those deemed mentally insane, and placing them into society, living in efficiency apartments and the such, with a monthly government check... and so the story goes....of multiple, horrendous killing sprees, done by people that should be institutionalized, but the government refuses to finance the institutions needed for them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30212215 United States 12/18/2012 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Millions of people are on antipsychotic, antidepressant and other similar drugs. Why aren't there hundreds of cases of mass shootings? These tragedies are rare. The question should be if this guy wasn't taking these drugs would he have acted the same way? Probably! Drugs shouldn't be an excuse. Like that cop a few years ago who raped someone and blamed it on his prescription. |
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Future Viewer User ID: 1344660 United States 12/18/2012 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Figures.... Quoting: Nexus-9 The Antipsychotic Prescribed To Adam Lanza Has A Troubled History All Its Own By now the whole country is fully embroiled in the Gun Control debate, spurred by the grisly murder of 27 people, mostly kids, at the Sandy Hook Elementary school last Friday. Guns might not be the only problem though. New York Magazine wrote a piece about shooter Adam Lanza's supposed "aspergers" syndrome as a "red herring" meant to distract from the real problem (guns, of course, the subject goes without mentioning). Inside the piece though they report Adam Lanza's uncle said the boy was prescribed Fanapt, a controversial anti-psychotic medicine. Fanapt was the subject of a Bloomberg report when it passed regulators, after previously getting the "nonapproval" stamp. Why wasn't it approved, you might ask? Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com] Here's a list of reported side effects of the prescription drug, Fanapt, that Lanza was on at the time - Restlessness - Aggression - Delusion - Hostility - Decreased libido - Paranoia - Angorasmia - Confusional state - Mania - Catatonia ...and many more. See link ----> [link to doublecheckmd.com] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Leave it to "TPTB" to get their crazy Manchurian Candidates with medications that make them psycho. But at least Adam Lanza had a medical plan as most Americans don't! |
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