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The Rose and the Cross

 
Rochelle

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Ok, I'm confused again now... "this order"?
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maybe she thinks the templars, but it's not about templars ..it's just about good polarity or bad. that's it.

#@!~~#$
 Quoting: Perseus7


No it is an order. AMORC. You posess a cross that is an actual gift from them.
 Quoting: Rochelle


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Huh.

...huh.

When I see 'initiation'... I think 'gnostic meditation'. And the "spirit wedding", and all the two-spirit bonding processes and rituals (blood, fire, amrita) I (...we) went through this year. It IS intense, and very long lived. But I'm not sure if you and I mean the same thing, Rochelle.

But on another note, Perseus I am starting to wonder exactly how many of these "secret society" occultist-type deals fit the lightworker mentality like a glove. Have you noticed this?
 Quoting: pi 20063747

well I assure I am working for the greater good. As far as initiation goes, I have been through several with RC. No meditation an actual physical performance.
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Ok, I'm confused again now... "this order"?
 Quoting: pi 20063747


maybe she thinks the templars, but it's not about templars ..it's just about good polarity or bad. that's it.

#@!~~#$
 Quoting: Perseus7


No it is an order. AMORC. You posess a cross that is an actual gift from them.
 Quoting: Rochelle


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Huh.

...huh.

When I see 'initiation'... I think 'gnostic meditation'. And the "spirit wedding", and all the two-spirit bonding processes and rituals (blood, fire, amrita) I (...we) went through this year. It IS intense, and very long lived. But I'm not sure if you and I mean the same thing, Rochelle.

But on another note, Perseus I am starting to wonder exactly how many of these "secret society" occultist-type deals fit the lightworker mentality like a glove. Have you noticed this?
 Quoting: pi 20063747


Yea it's really geared that way, almost like some huge psyop mind programming deal..which I recognized very early on as a possibility. I then said..fuck it, whatever it is I'm just going to do everything I can to affect change because I think it is right..if it's all just some BS then shrug..at least I did the right thing no matter what. Even the tiniest possibility that everything I was seeing and experienced was totally authentic was enough for me to go on. Know what I'm sayin.. ~;
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Rochelle

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Yep
"For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return"
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well I assure I am working for the greater good. As far as initiation goes, I have been through several with RC. No meditation an actual physical performance.
 Quoting: Rochelle


Interesting. So two different things by the looks of it.

No doubts on your intentions, we're all mad here.

Yea it's really geared that way, almost like some huge psyop mind programming deal..which I recognized very early on as a possibility. I then said..fuck it, whatever it is I'm just going to do everything I can to affect change because I think it is right..if it's all just some BS then shrug..at least I did the right thing no matter what. Even the tiniest possibility that everything I was seeing and experienced was totally authentic was enough for me to go on. Know what I'm sayin.. ~;
 Quoting: Perseus7


Yeah actually that's what bothered me about this forum at first, it seems... 'off' at times.

Total mind-fuck at other times.

But yeah man, I read you loud and clear... rockon
Rochelle

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No I'm not mad, I have nothing but love to share. As well as answers to any questions pertaining to the othe (RC).
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No I'm not mad, I have nothing but love to share. As well as answers to any questions pertaining to the othe (RC).
 Quoting: Rochelle


hf

Insanity. If we're all mad, well then none of us are. hf

I'm looking for answers on the "other" too, I think that's ultimately why Perseus is here as well; could be wrong there, but either way, I'm sorry if I portrayed anything but a welcoming sentiment Rochelle.
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12/21/2012 02:15 AM

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No I'm not mad, I have nothing but love to share. As well as answers to any questions pertaining to the othe (RC).
 Quoting: Rochelle


hf

Insanity. If we're all mad, well then none of us are. hf

I'm looking for answers on the "other" too, I think that's ultimately why Perseus is here as well; could be wrong there, but either way, I'm sorry if I portrayed anything but a welcoming sentiment Rochelle.
 Quoting: pi 20063747


No nothing but good vibes from you pi. I just wanted to make sure others know. So here's the deal, I can answer questions but I cannot just divulge.
"For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return"
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My rose does not have thorns.

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Derrick Rose, of the Central Division leading Chicago Bulls, has one of the best and effective crossover's in the NBA.
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My rose does not have thorns.

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Derrick Rose, of the Central Division leading Chicago Bulls, has one of the best and effective crossover's in the NBA.
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that's the info I needed, ty sir.
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12/21/2012 02:38 AM
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No I'm not mad, I have nothing but love to share. As well as answers to any questions pertaining to the othe (RC).
 Quoting: Rochelle


hf

Insanity. If we're all mad, well then none of us are. hf

I'm looking for answers on the "other" too, I think that's ultimately why Perseus is here as well; could be wrong there, but either way, I'm sorry if I portrayed anything but a welcoming sentiment Rochelle.
 Quoting: pi 20063747


No nothing but good vibes from you pi. I just wanted to make sure others know. So here's the deal, I can answer questions but I cannot just divulge.
 Quoting: Rochelle


Rochelle,

squared red Tau stone which holds electric properties...hmmm. Good choice for a name.

I've studied the inner path for many years.

How were you chosen to be invited into the Rosicrusions and how would I become introduced to any of the members for consideration?
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12/21/2012 02:43 AM
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although you took it down, thx for the pic. I know the color and design scheme quite well as I wear it basically in the set of rings I own.
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12/21/2012 02:44 AM
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AMORC was mentioned. FRC is another.
Rochelle

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12/21/2012 02:46 AM

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No I'm not mad, I have nothing but love to share. As well as answers to any questions pertaining to the othe (RC).
 Quoting: Rochelle


hf

Insanity. If we're all mad, well then none of us are. hf

I'm looking for answers on the "other" too, I think that's ultimately why Perseus is here as well; could be wrong there, but either way, I'm sorry if I portrayed anything but a welcoming sentiment Rochelle.
 Quoting: pi 20063747


No nothing but good vibes from you pi. I just wanted to make sure others know. So here's the deal, I can answer questions but I cannot just divulge.
 Quoting: Rochelle


Rochelle,

squared red Tau stone which holds electric properties...hmmm. Good choice for a name.

I've studied the inner path for many years.

How were you chosen to be invited into the Rosicrusions and how would I become introduced to any of the members for consideration?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18371059


Are you looking to join?
"For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return"
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Alright, I am familiar with the "oracle" concept. Perhaps I have fallen behind in the "codespeak" as nothing jumps to mind as a good question to ask. Maybe give me a bit.
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12/21/2012 02:48 AM
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hf

Insanity. If we're all mad, well then none of us are. hf

I'm looking for answers on the "other" too, I think that's ultimately why Perseus is here as well; could be wrong there, but either way, I'm sorry if I portrayed anything but a welcoming sentiment Rochelle.
 Quoting: pi 20063747


No nothing but good vibes from you pi. I just wanted to make sure others know. So here's the deal, I can answer questions but I cannot just divulge.
 Quoting: Rochelle


Rochelle,

squared red Tau stone which holds electric properties...hmmm. Good choice for a name.

I've studied the inner path for many years.

How were you chosen to be invited into the Rosicrusions and how would I become introduced to any of the members for consideration?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18371059


Are you looking to join?
 Quoting: Rochelle


Yes.
Rochelle

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Ok then all you need to do is start with the book The Mastery of Life. Read it completley, then ask to join if thats what you really want to join.
"For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return"
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Ok then all you need to do is start with the book The Mastery of Life. Read it completley, then ask to join if thats what you really want to join.
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Thanks for the information.
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Ok then all you need to do is start with the book The Mastery of Life. Read it completley, then ask to join if thats what you really want to join.
 Quoting: Rochelle


Thanks for the information.
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Why did you choose RC instead of Masonry?
Rochelle

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12/21/2012 03:07 AM

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Ok then all you need to do is start with the book The Mastery of Life. Read it completley, then ask to join if thats what you really want to join.
 Quoting: Rochelle


Thanks for the information.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18371059


Why did you choose RC instead of Masonry?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18371059


I'm a female, that's a no girls aloud club. My husband is a mason and RC has so much more to offer.
"For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return"
Rochelle

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The term black balled comes from masonry. That is how they vote on you. Each mason puts a ball in the box, one black ball and you're out.
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12/21/2012 03:23 AM
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The term black balled comes from masonry. That is how they vote on you. Each mason puts a ball in the box, one black ball and you're out.
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is there any truth to the promulgated rumor that once a member goes to certain levels...there's no leaving it?

also, in masonry, it seems that there is more support as far as business relationships and youth programs...more of a 'family...do you find this true?
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AMORC was mentioned. FRC is another.
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...and the Confraternity of the Rose Cross (CRC). Started by the last duly appointed Imperator of AMORC, Gary L. Stewart. AMORC "died" the day Christian Bernard was put in place.
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The term black balled comes from masonry. That is how they vote on you. Each mason puts a ball in the box, one black ball and you're out.
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is there any truth to the promulgated rumor that once a member goes to certain levels...there's no leaving it?

also, in masonry, it seems that there is more support as far as business relationships and youth programs...more of a 'family...do you find this true?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18371059


Yes they will help you anyway they can. There's even senior living land for masons. It's a brotherhood. But in answer to your first question, once a mason always one. Their number one priority is family. And you have all the time in the world to climb the ranks. Once you get to third degree you are master mason. Then you can stop there r further your knowledge depending on your interests.
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i've now read the 'master of life' and I have previously read 'secrets of the Rosicrusions' written by Magus Incognito which , of course, is an approved RC publication.

Is the philosophy of the Masons identical with RC? There is a mason lodge in my area, but I doubt there is an RC temple or even organized group due to the small size of the town in which i reside. ...so i am leaning toward masonry if the philosophy is identical.

any insight on this?
Rochelle

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I'm not recruiting this is a personal decision one has to make if they are interested. I often say that I only joined to see what all the hype was. I have also said that this is the devils work. So be careful what you wish for. I know and love God the father, and perhaps i was wrong to make it look glamouris. I did it and no longer practice my husband does. I believe in praying to God the father and Christ. These groups do as well but they include all Gods. I feel terrible for not clarifying. Thanks for the negative Karma it opened my eyes.
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"...and the Confraternity of the Rose Cross (CRC). Started by the last duly appointed Imperator of AMORC, Gary L. Stewart. AMORC "died" the day Christian Bernard was put in place."

Nice. Also, Hermetic Order of Golden Dawn claims to be RC. There are a lot of groups that claim a connection.

I'm personally a newbie learning from FRC.
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i've now read the 'master of life' and I have previously read 'secrets of the Rosicrusions' written by Magus Incognito which , of course, is an approved RC publication.

Is the philosophy of the Masons identical with RC? There is a mason lodge in my area, but I doubt there is an RC temple or even organized group due to the small size of the town in which i reside. ...so i am leaning toward masonry if the philosophy is identical.

any insight on this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18371059


The philosophy is slightly different yet all the same. RC is more the spiritual aspect of Masonry. Masonry is more the historical avenue.
But please I beg you to understand none of this is the way God. You would find it is of many Gods.
"For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return"
Rochelle

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You know RC is knowledge passed on from a pharaoh in Egypt who believed there was only one God. He took his beliefs and built his own pyramid to teach and learn the esoteric.
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Rochelle

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I have probably divulged too much already. My advice is to back away.
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