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THOMAS SOWELL blows up the entire ANTI-GUN argument a few brief paragraphs...
- The rate of gun ownership is higher in rural areas than in urban areas, but the murder rate is higher in urban areas.

- The rate of gun ownership is higher among whites than among blacks, but the murder rate is higher among blacks.

- For the country as a whole, hand-gun ownership doubled in the late 20th century, while the murder rate went down.

- Britain has had a lower murder rate than the United States for more than two centuries — and, for most of that time, the British had no more stringent gun-control laws than the United States.

- In the middle of the 20th century, you could buy a shotgun in London with no questions asked. New York, which at that time had had the stringent Sullivan Law restricting gun ownership since 1911, still had several times the gun-murder rate of London, as well as several times the London murder rate with other weapons.

- The crime rate, including the rate of crimes committed with guns, is far higher in Britain now than it was back in the days when there were few restrictions on Britons buying firearms.

- In 1954, there were only a dozen armed robberies in London but, by the 1990s — after decades of ever tightening gun-ownership restrictions — there were more than a hundred times as many armed robberies.

- Other countries with stronger gun-control laws than the United States, such as Russia, Brazil, and Mexico have higher murder rates than the United States.

- Gun ownership has been three times as high in Switzerland as in Germany, but the Swiss have had lower murder rates. Other countries with high rates of gun ownership and low murder rates include Israel, New Zealand, and Finland.

[link to www.nationalreview.com]
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Great post..Thanks
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Thomas Sowell is always spot on.
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His mix of information and calmness beats the emotionalism so often associated with the topics he touches.
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I do not give a fuck what the numbers are. I have the RIGHT to own a gun. it does not matter what the murder rate is, or the crime rate, or if 10 children out of the 200,000,000 in this country shoot themselves thinking it's a toy gun. I do not care about that and it DOES NOT MATTER regarding my right to own a gun.

if someone tells me it does matter, we will have a problem.
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I do not give a fuck what the numbers are. I have the RIGHT to own a gun. it does not matter what the murder rate is, or the crime rate, or if 10 children out of the 200,000,000 in this country shoot themselves thinking it's a toy gun. I do not care about that and it DOES NOT MATTER regarding my right to own a gun.

if someone tells me it does matter, we will have a problem.
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This kind of helps explain why there is so much murder and gun crime in America. Attitude and culture.
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Thomas Sowell is always spot on.
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Unfortunately, he, nor do most people understand the difference between correlation and causation.
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I do not give a fuck what the numbers are. I have the RIGHT to own a gun. it does not matter what the murder rate is, or the crime rate, or if 10 children out of the 200,000,000 in this country shoot themselves thinking it's a toy gun. I do not care about that and it DOES NOT MATTER regarding my right to own a gun.

if someone tells me it does matter, we will have a problem.
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This kind of helps explain why there is so much murder and gun crime in America. Attitude and culture.
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and that kind of helps explain why you are not free. Attitude and culture.

stay in Malaysia.
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I do not give a fuck what the numbers are. I have the RIGHT to own a gun. it does not matter what the murder rate is, or the crime rate, or if 10 children out of the 200,000,000 in this country shoot themselves thinking it's a toy gun. I do not care about that and it DOES NOT MATTER regarding my right to own a gun.

if someone tells me it does matter, we will have a problem.
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Obvious Troll is Obvious.
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Nothing to do with guns anyway, if he couldn't get guns he would have made an IED or tried to go stabby mac stab with a knife or whatever.

The method he used is not really relevant to the cause of the problem, guns didn't sidle up to him and say "hey kid, let's go kill somebody" no... it was the antipyshoctic drugs your system had him on which are KNOWN to have side effects causing violent behaviour.


Stop
talking about the guns, tptb are using this incident (in a very cynical fashion, using the death of children to further their agenda) to disarm you when the real culprit is the drug industry who pour money into the elites pockets.

Fucked up is putting it mildly.

You guys need to refuse to enter into any debate about guns over this incident, don't let people with agendas move the focus away from the real problem, the forced drugging of American kids.
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- The rate of gun ownership is higher in rural areas than in urban areas, but the murder rate is higher in urban areas.

- The rate of gun ownership is higher among whites than among blacks, but the murder rate is higher among blacks.

- For the country as a whole, hand-gun ownership doubled in the late 20th century, while the murder rate went down.

- Britain has had a lower murder rate than the United States for more than two centuries — and, for most of that time, the British had no more stringent gun-control laws than the United States.

- In the middle of the 20th century, you could buy a shotgun in London with no questions asked. New York, which at that time had had the stringent Sullivan Law restricting gun ownership since 1911, still had several times the gun-murder rate of London, as well as several times the London murder rate with other weapons.

- The crime rate, including the rate of crimes committed with guns, is far higher in Britain now than it was back in the days when there were few restrictions on Britons buying firearms.

- In 1954, there were only a dozen armed robberies in London but, by the 1990s — after decades of ever tightening gun-ownership restrictions — there were more than a hundred times as many armed robberies.

- Other countries with stronger gun-control laws than the United States, such as Russia, Brazil, and Mexico have higher murder rates than the United States.

- Gun ownership has been three times as high in Switzerland as in Germany, but the Swiss have had lower murder rates. Other countries with high rates of gun ownership and low murder rates include Israel, New Zealand, and Finland.

[link to www.nationalreview.com]
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I'm going to sit back and notice the conspicuously absent posts from our 'friends' in the UK.

lol
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Over 2000% more children die every year from drowning than firearms...

Ban water...
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Thomas Sowell is always spot on.
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Unfortunately, he, nor do most people understand the difference between correlation and causation.
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While I disagree with gun-control laws and think everyone should be able to own one, basically this.

It's like saying over the last 200 years life expectancy has doubled while gun control laws have become more stringent, so they must be causing longer life spans!
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- The rate of gun ownership is higher in rural areas than in urban areas, but the murder rate is higher in urban areas.

- The rate of gun ownership is higher among whites than among blacks, but the murder rate is higher among blacks.

- For the country as a whole, hand-gun ownership doubled in the late 20th century, while the murder rate went down.

- Britain has had a lower murder rate than the United States for more than two centuries — and, for most of that time, the British had no more stringent gun-control laws than the United States.

- In the middle of the 20th century, you could buy a shotgun in London with no questions asked. New York, which at that time had had the stringent Sullivan Law restricting gun ownership since 1911, still had several times the gun-murder rate of London, as well as several times the London murder rate with other weapons.

- The crime rate, including the rate of crimes committed with guns, is far higher in Britain now than it was back in the days when there were few restrictions on Britons buying firearms.

- In 1954, there were only a dozen armed robberies in London but, by the 1990s — after decades of ever tightening gun-ownership restrictions — there were more than a hundred times as many armed robberies.

- Other countries with stronger gun-control laws than the United States, such as Russia, Brazil, and Mexico have higher murder rates than the United States.

- Gun ownership has been three times as high in Switzerland as in Germany, but the Swiss have had lower murder rates. Other countries with high rates of gun ownership and low murder rates include Israel, New Zealand, and Finland.

[link to www.nationalreview.com]
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All guns are BANNED in Norway except for MILITARY and POLICE.

...and we can see how well that ban worked. grnrolleyes


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Fact: Banning guns will saves lives
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Fact: Banning guns will saves lives
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Only slaves are disarmed.

Every person in the UK is the PROPERTY of the royal family

Criminals will not obey any gun law.

Stupid shill
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Fact: Banning guns will saves lives
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Only in YOUR MIND is that a fact.
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Fact: Banning guns will saves lives
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Only slaves are disarmed.

Every person in the UK is the PROPERTY of the royal family

Criminals will not obey any gun law.

Stupid shill
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ohyeah
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Fact: Banning guns will saves lives
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Indeed. It has worked SO well in Chicago and Washington DC.
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Hey OP, what the heck are you and Thomas Sowell trying to do confusing the Liberals with facts?
You ought to be ashamed of your self!
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These are some interesting facts.
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I do not give a fuck what the numbers are. I have the RIGHT to own a gun. it does not matter what the murder rate is, or the crime rate, or if 10 children out of the 200,000,000 in this country shoot themselves thinking it's a toy gun. I do not care about that and it DOES NOT MATTER regarding my right to own a gun.

if someone tells me it does matter, we will have a problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30268820


This kind of helps explain why there is so much murder and gun crime in America. Attitude and culture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28688993


Really! How does it explain it you dumbass? Elaborate for us.
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I'm pro gun but, that article is very dubious.
The U.K " 1950's
Anyway, The U.N. has lobbied many countries to ban firearms.
IT'S THE U.N. SHEEPLE.
Banned countries include along with others : france,u.k.,aus,nz,jap,chn,neth,iitl,spn, etc.
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Government is not interested in facts, and they have no desire for US citizens to retain their second amendment rights.

You cannot argue with someone who is afraid of you and your guns. Thus NO argument will make a difference in the inevitable outcome in this country of war between the people and it's government.
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I do not give a fuck what the numbers are. I have the RIGHT to own a gun. it does not matter what the murder rate is, or the crime rate, or if 10 children out of the 200,000,000 in this country shoot themselves thinking it's a toy gun. I do not care about that and it DOES NOT MATTER regarding my right to own a gun.

if someone tells me it does matter, we will have a problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30268820


This kind of helps explain why there is so much murder and gun crime in America. Attitude and culture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28688993


and that kind of helps explain why you are not free. Attitude and culture.

stay in Malaysia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30268820


right on
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I do not give a fuck what the numbers are. I have the RIGHT to own a gun. it does not matter what the murder rate is, or the crime rate, or if 10 children out of the 200,000,000 in this country shoot themselves thinking it's a toy gun. I do not care about that and it DOES NOT MATTER regarding my right to own a gun.

if someone tells me it does matter, we will have a problem.
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Dude, read the above posts again. It is for gun ownership dipshit!
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I do not give a fuck what the numbers are. I have the RIGHT to own a gun. it does not matter what the murder rate is, or the crime rate, or if 10 children out of the 200,000,000 in this country shoot themselves thinking it's a toy gun. I do not care about that and it DOES NOT MATTER regarding my right to own a gun.

if someone tells me it does matter, we will have a problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30268820


This kind of helps explain why there is so much murder and gun crime in America. Attitude and culture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28688993




No, what the AC above is saying is THAT IT IS HIS RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS!!! period.

Malasia, you just don't understand our 2nd Amendment so ...STFU
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I do not give a fuck what the numbers are. I have the RIGHT to own a gun. it does not matter what the murder rate is, or the crime rate, or if 10 children out of the 200,000,000 in this country shoot themselves thinking it's a toy gun. I do not care about that and it DOES NOT MATTER regarding my right to own a gun.

if someone tells me it does matter, we will have a problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30268820


This kind of helps explain why there is so much murder and gun crime in America. Attitude and culture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28688993


and that kind of helps explain why you are not free. Attitude and culture.

stay in Malaysia.
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right on
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Habeas Corpus

Malaysia +1

US 0

your guns dont mean shite. Oh, Americans are sooooo free. Just don't get in TPTB's way or your illusion will be shattered.

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