The Sun Was Supposed To Set At 4:41 Central Time In Missouri, 12/18 , Still Hasn't Set At 5:01

You people do realize that it doesn't get dark exactly at the moment the sun sets, right? There is a period after sunset (and before sunrise) called "twilight" during which you have the transition from the light of day to the dark of night (or vice versa).

It is every single thread. They don't miss any off them. They must have alarms on their computors cause I have seen them show up at 3am in their time zones to debunk shit.

Then they just can't comment and move on. They inhabit the thread and stay as long as it takes. Days even until the thread gets buried because they have thrashed it.

When they go out of their way like this it really makes you wonder whats at stake over this. Sure they are getting paided but obviously they would get fired if they even have one fail if they can't get the thread to fail.

Their behavior just makes everybody more curious and makes them watch more because soon as you tell people no they want to know why. As if were going to takr these guys whom we don't even know their words for anything.

You have infrared capable eyes? Because there was a thick cloud cover all over Germany.

Cloud cover Germany Dec 19, 2012 - 07:00 [link to www.wetteronline.de]
Day/Night boundary Germany Dec 19, 2012 - 07:00 [link to www.wetteronline.de]

Either you are a fucking liar or trolling the suntards.


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Again Waterbug either has reading comprehensions or deliberately posts only what fits in his opinion.

The 180° phase change of the Chandler wobble is nothing new. It not only happened in 2005 but also in 1850 and 1920:

"In 1920, it underwent a sudden phase change of 180 degrees."
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"But the big news is that the wobble underwent 180-degree changes in phase on two other occasions: once in 1850 and the other in 2005."
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"So why should the Chandler Wobble undergo these changes in phase? An interesting puzzle for anybody with a few brain cycles to spare."

Thus no puzzle for Waterbug.


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Yep. And Nautical twilight for Maryland lasts until 5:49pm. Astronomical twilight lasts until 6:22pm.

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I may not post it exactly after i see it, because I am working, but i will post what time it was when the sun was no longer visible on the horizon and then you guys can figure out the rest. I can see for about 25 miles in every direction from up here, so it should be pretty easy to see.

Sun set on time in St. Louis this evening. Stop using meth, OP!!!

I deliberately post what fits my opinion....?

Who doesn't..?

Shall I make it easier for you.. and debunk myself...?



Dang, you are a sharp one.

Stand back, everybody....

Can I have a bandaid..?

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Last Edited by DVCMCM on 12/19/2012 06:28 PM

The Wobble

Well by golly Unk-- looks like you didn't read very far into the thread now did ya?

I know. That's what's weird. It's not consistently late. Some days it's 20 to 30 mins late, some days it's close or on time. The fact that it is SO variable, to my mind, infers some sort of either instability or a lot of forces pulling it off or both? I guess the variability is OK as long as nothing severe happens.

And the fact that you are so insulting throws up a huge red flag.

Yes, of course, we realize that it is not immediate "lights out" when the sun sets.

However, here in Denver, we cannot see the sun set below the horizon because of the mountain range so I don't know if the timing of the sunset is off or if the sun IS brighter or what, but can anyone explain why THIS year, I am not needing to turn on my headlights until at least 20 minutes later than the same dates in previous years?

I am NOT saying that something weird is occurring -- the explanation might be perfectly natural and no "doom" at all -- but sunset/twilight IS weird this month, so if anyone can explain it, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

Are you paid for your hostile stance or do you come by it pathologically?

Looks like it's coming in on time tonight, but it might not be tomorrow.

Yes. Welding mask.


Looks like it's coming in on time tonight, but oddly, that doesn't mean that it will be tomorrow night. Let's just keep observing.

Umm... he meant that you cherry-picked the article.

Right... it's "SO variable"... right... and no consideration given to the possibility that that the people talking about it are simply wrong. Hilarious!

It's pretty astounding that you think you can remember what time you turned on your headlights on a given day a year ago.

I think you will find that if you actually do careful, accurate observations, the sunset is exactly on time every day. On the other hand, I'm betting that there are a lot of people who think it's "off" tonight. Don't look now, but that means they might call you a government "shill" for saying it's on time tonight.

Well, believe it or not, I do -- because I used to work at a job where I got off work at 4:00 and it took me a half-hour to get home, so about half-way home, I would have to turn on my lights. And, the reason I remember the time of year so clearly is because it was near Christmas with the holiday lights and also because, to repeat, it is the time of the winter solstice.

Again, I am just asking for a reasonable explanation. Why be so snide?

Because anybody with any sense knows the sun isn't setting late and we are tired of seeing this crap come around on every solstice. The "reasonable explanation" is that you just don't remember correctly.

I'm currently performing solar astrometry to measure the sun's position precisely to a far great resolution than the human eye... What do you think I'll find, eh suntards?

I said what I know, not what I think. However, I think that you are stupid and rude.

How would you know what he meant..?
You a mind-reader..?

Oh, I see..

He was backing you up because you said there was no wobble... and I called you on it.

So you are backing him up with a reach-around..

Got it.

ughhh some people pay attention to details and some don't. Judging by your response I can conclude that you are one who obviously doesn't? lol

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