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The Sun Was Supposed To Set At 4:41 Central Time In Missouri, 12/18 , Still Hasn't Set At 5:01

 
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The Sun rose and set right on time here in NY... Nothing out of the ordinary... But the Moon did look weird last night.. that is probably normal too..
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It appears that the sunset times are correct but the observed extension of visible light and the extended time needed for artificial light may be due to increased luminosity of the Sun.

So the "illusion" that the Sunset is later is just that but the noted extension of visible light is NOT an illusion but observation of a true anomaly.

So in conclusion the orbital status of the Sun and Earth are correct but the Sun has become so much brighter that the radiated energy is extending or diffusing into the atmosphere far beyond the norm and therefore illuminates the sky well beyond the norm.

So...the Sun may be going into a hyper state of illumination at this time.

If this is the case...look out!


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Thats the only logical explanation.
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The Sun rose and set right on time here in NY... Nothing out of the ordinary... But the Moon did look weird last night.. that is probably normal too..
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It appears that the sunset times are correct but the observed extension of visible light and the extended time needed for artificial light may be due to increased luminosity of the Sun.

So the "illusion" that the Sunset is later is just that but the noted extension of visible light is NOT an illusion but observation of a true anomaly.

So in conclusion the orbital status of the Sun and Earth are correct but the Sun has become so much brighter that the radiated energy is extending or diffusing into the atmosphere far beyond the norm and therefore illuminates the sky well beyond the norm.

So...the Sun may be going into a hyper state of illumination at this time.

If this is the case...look out!


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Thank you.

(And to Menow, I apologize for calling you stupid because you obviously aren't, but I still think that you are very rude.)

P.s. It is now almost dark in Denver -- and headlight time in Denver tonight -- was, as it was a couple of days ago -- about 4:40-4:45.
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I'm currently performing solar astrometry to measure the sun's position precisely to a far great resolution than the human eye... What do you think I'll find, eh suntards?
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Hi Astrotard, there is a good job for you here:

---> [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]


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Care to answer the question? I've got plenty on my plate tonight, I don't care to teach lunar geography as well.
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I'm currently performing solar astrometry to measure the sun's position precisely to a far great resolution than the human eye... What do you think I'll find, eh suntards?
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Hi Astrotard, there is a good job for you here:

---> [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]


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Care to answer the question? I've got plenty on my plate tonight, I don't care to teach lunar geography as well.
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SO you believe that freaking thing its normal to see on the moon RIGHT?


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I deliberately post what fits my opinion....?

Who doesn't..?

Shall I make it easier for you.. and debunk myself...?

roflmao

Dang, you are a sharp one.

Stand back, everybody....

Can I have a bandaid..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


Umm... he meant that you cherry-picked the article.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


How would you know what he meant..?
You a mind-reader..?

Oh, I see..

He was backing you up because you said there was no wobble... and I called you on it.

So you are backing him up with a reach-around..

Got it.
 Quoting: Waterbug

How would you know what Menow meant and I meant..?
You are a mind-reader..?


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Well the suns going to be setting here soon so Ill have a look and report back like I did in the AM hours.

Well, believe it or not, I do -- because I used to work at a job where I got off work at 4:00 and it took me a half-hour to get home, so about half-way home, I would have to turn on my lights. And, the reason I remember the time of year so clearly is because it was near Christmas with the holiday lights and also because, to repeat, it is the time of the winter solstice.

Again, I am just asking for a reasonable explanation. Why be so snide?
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Because anybody with any sense knows the sun isn't setting late and we are tired of seeing this crap come around on every solstice. The "reasonable explanation" is that you just don't remember correctly.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


I said what I know, not what I think. However, I think that you are stupid and rude.
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To said nasty person....If you have the answer to everything smarty pants then why the hell are you even on here?
 Quoting: _Obsidian_

"Only one candle left to burn now, before the darkness comes"

"Happiness consumes itself like a flame. It cannot burn for ever, it must go out, and the presentiment of its end destroys it at its very peak."

"But what is Hope? Nothing but the paint on the face of Existence; the least touch of truth rubs it off, and then we see what a hollow-cheeked harlot we have got hold of"
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I tried to respond but it didn't come out right haha The suns going down here soon Ill go have a look and let you guys know like I did in the AM hours.
"Only one candle left to burn now, before the darkness comes"

"Happiness consumes itself like a flame. It cannot burn for ever, it must go out, and the presentiment of its end destroys it at its very peak."

"But what is Hope? Nothing but the paint on the face of Existence; the least touch of truth rubs it off, and then we see what a hollow-cheeked harlot we have got hold of"
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It appears that the sunset times are correct but the observed extension of visible light and the extended time needed for artificial light may be due to increased luminosity of the Sun.

So the "illusion" that the Sunset is later is just that but the noted extension of visible light is NOT an illusion but observation of a true anomaly.

So in conclusion the orbital status of the Sun and Earth are correct but the Sun has become so much brighter that the radiated energy is extending or diffusing into the atmosphere far beyond the norm and therefore illuminates the sky well beyond the norm.

So...the Sun may be going into a hyper state of illumination at this time.

If this is the case...look out!


bump
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That about sums it up. Where all da shills go?
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It's pretty astounding that you think you can remember what time you turned on your headlights on a given day a year ago.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Well, believe it or not, I do -- because I used to work at a job where I got off work at 4:00 and it took me a half-hour to get home, so about half-way home, I would have to turn on my lights. And, the reason I remember the time of year so clearly is because it was near Christmas with the holiday lights and also because, to repeat, it is the time of the winter solstice.

Again, I am just asking for a reasonable explanation. Why be so snide?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29875503


Because anybody with any sense knows the sun isn't setting late and we are tired of seeing this crap come around on every solstice. The "reasonable explanation" is that you just don't remember correctly.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


I said what I know, not what I think. However, I think that you are stupid and rude.
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Actually, you said what you think you know. What about cloud cover on the days you remember turning on your lights earlier?
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I deliberately post what fits my opinion....?

Who doesn't..?

Shall I make it easier for you.. and debunk myself...?

:roflmao:

Dang, you are a sharp one.

Stand back, everybody....

Can I have a bandaid..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


Umm... he meant that you cherry-picked the article.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


How would you know what he meant..?
You a mind-reader..?

Oh, I see..

He was backing you up because you said there was no wobble... and I called you on it.

So you are backing him up with a reach-around..

Got it.
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No, because it was obvious from what he wrote.
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You people do realize that it doesn't get dark exactly at the moment the sun sets, right? There is a period after sunset (and before sunrise) called "twilight" during which you have the transition from the light of day to the dark of night (or vice versa).
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Yes, of course, we realize that it is not immediate "lights out" when the sun sets.

However, here in Denver, we cannot see the sun set below the horizon because of the mountain range so I don't know if the timing of the sunset is off or if the sun IS brighter or what, but can anyone explain why THIS year, I am not needing to turn on my headlights until at least 20 minutes later than the same dates in previous years?

I am NOT saying that something weird is occurring -- the explanation might be perfectly natural and no "doom" at all -- but sunset/twilight IS weird this month, so if anyone can explain it, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
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It's pretty astounding that you think you can remember what time you turned on your headlights on a given day a year ago.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


ughhh some people pay attention to details and some don't. Judging by your response I can conclude that you are one who obviously doesn't? lol
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What time did you turn on your headlights this week last year?
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I deliberately post what fits my opinion....?

Who doesn't..?

Shall I make it easier for you.. and debunk myself...?

:roflmao:

Dang, you are a sharp one.

Stand back, everybody....

Can I have a bandaid..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


Umm... he meant that you cherry-picked the article.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


How would you know what he meant..?
You a mind-reader..?

Oh, I see..

He was backing you up because you said there was no wobble... and I called you on it.

So you are backing him up with a reach-around..

Got it.
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Care to quote me on that alleged statement in context? No? Didn't think so.
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I deliberately post what fits my opinion....?

Who doesn't..?

Shall I make it easier for you.. and debunk myself...?

roflmao

Dang, you are a sharp one.

Stand back, everybody....

Can I have a bandaid..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


Umm... he meant that you cherry-picked the article.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


How would you know what he meant..?
You a mind-reader..?

Oh, I see..

He was backing you up because you said there was no wobble... and I called you on it.

So you are backing him up with a reach-around..

Got it.
 Quoting: Waterbug


No, because it was obvious from what he wrote.
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Mmkay. I'll take your word for it..
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Sunset was at a normal time here in South Dakota... as it was the night before and the night before.
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It appears that the sunset times are correct but the observed extension of visible light and the extended time needed for artificial light may be due to increased luminosity of the Sun.

So the "illusion" that the Sunset is later is just that but the noted extension of visible light is NOT an illusion but observation of a true anomaly.

So in conclusion the orbital status of the Sun and Earth are correct but the Sun has become so much brighter that the radiated energy is extending or diffusing into the atmosphere far beyond the norm and therefore illuminates the sky well beyond the norm.

So...the Sun may be going into a hyper state of illumination at this time.

If this is the case...look out!


bump
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We look forward to your posting of measurements of an increase in the sun's luminosity.
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Sun set on time in St. Louis this evening. Stop using meth, OP!!!
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And the fact that you are so insulting throws up a huge red flag.
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Are you paid for your hostile stance or do you come by it pathologically?
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Paid for my hostile stance. Please. If I said anything hostile, please forgive me. Threads that make me waste precious time do bring out the worst.

Here:

hf

And no, I did not read much of this thread. Were there any noteworthy points made by anyone?

Here's more:

hf
Best Wishes,
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God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise, God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong.

- 1 Corinthians 1:27
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It set on time up here in Canada. Must be a false flag sun.
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Yes, of course, we realize that it is not immediate "lights out" when the sun sets.

However, here in Denver, we cannot see the sun set below the horizon because of the mountain range so I don't know if the timing of the sunset is off or if the sun IS brighter or what, but can anyone explain why THIS year, I am not needing to turn on my headlights until at least 20 minutes later than the same dates in previous years?

I am NOT saying that something weird is occurring -- the explanation might be perfectly natural and no "doom" at all -- but sunset/twilight IS weird this month, so if anyone can explain it, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29875503


It's pretty astounding that you think you can remember what time you turned on your headlights on a given day a year ago.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


ughhh some people pay attention to details and some don't. Judging by your response I can conclude that you are one who obviously doesn't? lol
 Quoting: _Obsidian_


What time did you turn on your headlights this week last year?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Christmas time stands out last year and it was definitely earlier than this year. Ok here's one for you. Off the top of your head which light is at the top of a street light green red or yellow? Just wondering we see it all the time but most are on autopilot and then there's some of us that see beyond.
"Only one candle left to burn now, before the darkness comes"

"Happiness consumes itself like a flame. It cannot burn for ever, it must go out, and the presentiment of its end destroys it at its very peak."

"But what is Hope? Nothing but the paint on the face of Existence; the least touch of truth rubs it off, and then we see what a hollow-cheeked harlot we have got hold of"
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He was backing you up because you said there was no wobble... and I called you on it.

So you are backing him up with a reach-around..

Got it.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Care to quote me on that alleged statement in context? No? Didn't think so.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Well... give a girl a break, willya..?

You didn't even give me a chance..

Very poor form, sparky.
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It's pretty astounding that you think you can remember what time you turned on your headlights on a given day a year ago.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


ughhh some people pay attention to details and some don't. Judging by your response I can conclude that you are one who obviously doesn't? lol
 Quoting: _Obsidian_


What time did you turn on your headlights this week last year?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Christmas time stands out last year and it was definitely earlier than this year. Ok here's one for you. Off the top of your head which light is at the top of a street light green red or yellow? Just wondering we see it all the time but most are on autopilot and then there's some of us that see beyond.
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You "see beyond" what, reality? I'm sure you think you do.
Do you have ANY solid evidence that it's lighter, later this year than last other that your memory? ANYTHING AT ALL?
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I have a perfect vantage point here on the 48th floor of an office building in Houston Texas. Sunset is at 5:25pm. Now is this when the sun is longer visible or just level with the horizon? I will post my observations
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I may not post it exactly after i see it, because I am working, but i will post what time it was when the sun was no longer visible on the horizon and then you guys can figure out the rest. I can see for about 25 miles in every direction from up here, so it should be pretty easy to see.
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It set about 2 minutes past the official sunset time of 5:25pm
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Sun set on time in St. Louis this evening. Stop using meth, OP!!!
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And the fact that you are so insulting throws up a huge red flag.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30218778


Are you paid for your hostile stance or do you come by it pathologically?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30218778


Paid for my hostile stance. Please. If I said anything hostile, please forgive me. Threads that make me waste precious time do bring out the worst.

Here:

hf

And no, I did not read much of this thread. Were there any noteworthy points made by anyone?

Here's more:

hf
 Quoting: Uncle Alyosha


Dude, I think anyone with eyes can read your quote. Har har. Couldn't help myself :-)
"Only one candle left to burn now, before the darkness comes"

"Happiness consumes itself like a flame. It cannot burn for ever, it must go out, and the presentiment of its end destroys it at its very peak."

"But what is Hope? Nothing but the paint on the face of Existence; the least touch of truth rubs it off, and then we see what a hollow-cheeked harlot we have got hold of"
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I have a perfect vantage point here on the 48th floor of an office building in Houston Texas. Sunset is at 5:25pm. Now is this when the sun is longer visible or just level with the horizon? I will post my observations
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I may not post it exactly after i see it, because I am working, but i will post what time it was when the sun was no longer visible on the horizon and then you guys can figure out the rest. I can see for about 25 miles in every direction from up here, so it should be pretty easy to see.
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It set about 2 minutes past the official sunset time of 5:25pm
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We know that, infact this year they did update the stuff since 2 dec 2012 instead of the 21 --> [link to www.timeanddate.com]


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ughhh some people pay attention to details and some don't. Judging by your response I can conclude that you are one who obviously doesn't? lol
 Quoting: _Obsidian_


What time did you turn on your headlights this week last year?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Christmas time stands out last year and it was definitely earlier than this year. Ok here's one for you. Off the top of your head which light is at the top of a street light green red or yellow? Just wondering we see it all the time but most are on autopilot and then there's some of us that see beyond.
 Quoting: _Obsidian_


You "see beyond" what, reality? I'm sure you think you do.
Do you have ANY solid evidence that it's lighter, later this year than last other that your memory? ANYTHING AT ALL?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


The fact that you didn't answer my question tells me that you aren't sure. I don't see beyond reality. But I surely pay attention to detail. The answer to this is get off the thread and go look morning and night. If you don't see anything off then quit coming here to prove you know the answer. If you see something off then join the club. But honestly rationality tells me we have nothing to gain here except a headache and wasted time with all this silly banter. Its like people who talk shit on songs they don't like on you tube. Gahhh don't like it it don't listen grow up and stop trying to poop on the party? So to speak.
"Only one candle left to burn now, before the darkness comes"

"Happiness consumes itself like a flame. It cannot burn for ever, it must go out, and the presentiment of its end destroys it at its very peak."

"But what is Hope? Nothing but the paint on the face of Existence; the least touch of truth rubs it off, and then we see what a hollow-cheeked harlot we have got hold of"
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"..in that time, Kinich-Auau (our sun) recieves a spark from his older brother in the center and shines very brightly."


around 11:50
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Someone else mentioned it might be due to the aerosols in the air and the light is bending perhaps. It was overcast in St. Louis today, so perhaps it seemed to set on time because there wasn't a hyper-illumination effect? Yesterday it was clear and sunny and set about 25 mins. late.
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Someone else mentioned it might be due to the aerosols in the air and the light is bending perhaps. It was overcast in St. Louis today, so perhaps it seemed to set on time because there wasn't a hyper-illumination effect? Yesterday it was clear and sunny and set about 25 mins. late.
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That sounds rational OP. They are always spraying crap here this year has been one of the worst. I see it all the time.
"Only one candle left to burn now, before the darkness comes"

"Happiness consumes itself like a flame. It cannot burn for ever, it must go out, and the presentiment of its end destroys it at its very peak."

"But what is Hope? Nothing but the paint on the face of Existence; the least touch of truth rubs it off, and then we see what a hollow-cheeked harlot we have got hold of"

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