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The Sun Was Supposed To Set At 4:41 Central Time In Missouri, 12/18 , Still Hasn't Set At 5:01

 
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Thread: Sun Did NOT Rise On TIME This AM I am Utterly Convinced by my OWN observation there is a difference.
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Then you should publish your findings and the science you used to arrive at them. You'll be world-famous!
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Um...what world are you living in? "THEY" are not gonna allow any truth that SMACKs 'em in the face to be published.....
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Your statement, which I quoted. QUOTE: "SO normally in each of these seasonal time of the year (Summer and Winter), the Sun "goes out" (from east or west) in about 15 degrees,"

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Its true, otherwise tell how many degrees are in about the middle usa region.

You really should learn better English. This makes little sense.

 Quoting: Menow 18943200


whatever

No, you are claiming that it is abnormal for the sun to ever rise/set more than 15 degrees from east/west. That claim of yours is simply false.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


And my claim its right.

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Thread: THE SUN THIS MORNING

first post:

IS IT IN THE WRONG PLACE??
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Yes, that's what the first post says... fear-mongering innuendo and not a fact in sight. It's not even an OBSERVATION , yet you take it as reinforcement of your silly notions.
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We know this is Menow's full time job. This is his life. Poor thing.
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If the Sun (or Earth) were moving in *any* unpredictable ways, why can GOTO telescopes track everything, including the Sun, flawlessly?
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Your statement, which I quoted. QUOTE: "SO normally in each of these seasonal time of the year (Summer and Winter), the Sun "goes out" (from east or west) in about 15 degrees,"

 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Its true, otherwise tell how many degrees are in about middle usa.

You really should learn better English. This makes little sense.

 Quoting: Menow 18943200


whatever

No, you are claiming that it is abnormal for the sun to ever rise/set more than 15 degrees from east/west. That claim of yours is simply false.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


And my claim its right.
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It's so tempting to engage the shilltards, isn't it? :)
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We know this is Menow's full time job. This is his life. Poor thing.
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I know. It must be such a hardship, proving to be correct all the time.
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If the Sun (or Earth) were moving in *any* unpredictable ways, why can GOTO telescopes track everything, including the Sun, flawlessly?
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Folks, 74444444444444444444444 is shilly too.
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These are not 'ideas' to be debunked. These are very simple, straightforward observations. There is not debate about observing when the sun sets or rises and comparing the 'official' times listed. Our local shills want to argue bc they get paid to do so, to obfuscate, frustrate, run-down posters, deflect attention, ridicule, etc. etc.

Again, I urge you to ignore them, not only for yourselves but for the others who visit this thread, so visitors don't get frustrated and leave. Let them argue amongst themselves.
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clappa
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What's funny is... if nobody debunks this shit the thread will just die- seen in a hundred times. Even you people get tired of the vague, anecdotal claims.
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Thread: THE SUN THIS MORNING

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IS IT IN THE WRONG PLACE??
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yes for me that is old news and it is just too obvious..but then you have people still shillin' about it. I am just glad of how I have NO DOUBT about the things being true it is just not even a hint of questioning it any longer. I SEE said the no longer blind woman!
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We know this is Menow's full time job. This is his life. Poor thing.
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I know. It must be such a hardship, proving to be correct all the time.
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shilling
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The shills are converging onto this thread. Notice the agreement amongst them. We are onto something. Did he just do a baton hand-off to 744444444444444444444?


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Sun seemed late here today too. By atleast a half hour or more.
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yep that was what I observed I clocked it at about 26 min aprox!
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You "clocked it", but you won't take a picture of that alleged "clocking"? Fact is, you're just lying and trolling with this nonsense.
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It's so tempting to engage the shilltards, isn't it? :)
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I'm just testing his --> moran **** brain.



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We know this is Menow's full time job. This is his life. Poor thing.
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It is a sad life he must lead, OP would you just Hate to have to keep up with all this in-your-face truth and try day after day all day and night trying to come up with new words to disagree, or detract from it?? It is hard not to pitty him now. Menow hey bud why don't you take a day off go get some sun throw back a fe brewskis? I think you just need a little r and r!
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Eye witness testimony is anecdotalism?

Such an observation is clear obfuscation.

We do believe our eyes.
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These are not 'ideas' to be debunked. These are very simple, straightforward observations. There is not debate about observing when the sun sets or rises and comparing the 'official' times listed. Our local shills want to argue bc they get paid to do so, to obfuscate, frustrate, run-down posters, deflect attention, ridicule, etc. etc.

Again, I urge you to ignore them, not only for yourselves but for the others who visit this thread, so visitors don't get frustrated and leave. Let them argue amongst themselves.
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clappa
 Quoting: IwasKidding


What's funny is... if nobody debunks this shit the thread will just die- seen in a hundred times. Even you people get tired of the vague, anecdotal claims.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


You see it that many times because it is your life/job to keep hammering away until you make everyone trying to be HONEST and share their Observations sick of your posts detracting fromwhat they are trying to speak of. Yet you and the others like you NEVER get tired of Being in Denial...actually I do not think you are in denial you know well and good what we are reporting it TRUE and REAL yet you have a job to do.
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Thread: Sun Did NOT Rise On TIME This AM I am Utterly Convinced by my OWN observation there is a difference.
 Quoting: IwasKidding


Then you should publish your findings and the science you used to arrive at them. You'll be world-famous!
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Um...what world are you living in? "THEY" are not gonna allow any truth that SMACKs 'em in the face to be published.....
 Quoting: IwasKidding



Meaning that when they tell you what you are saying is ridiculous, and no matter what is presented to demonstrate how you are wrong, you will take that as proof of a vast coverup of your "TRVTH". Hilarious, because you don't HAVE any solid evidence to present in the first place! You would get laughed out of the place, not because of any conspiracy, but because your claims are LAUGHABLE and you people can't tell the difference!

It ALWAYS comes down to a vast conspiracy in these matters... A-L-L-W-A-Y-S.
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If the Sun (or Earth) were moving in *any* unpredictable ways, why can GOTO telescopes track everything, including the Sun, flawlessly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Folks, 74444444444444444444444 is shilly too.
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Of course, of course. Anyone who disagrees with the premise must be paid to do so.

Are you going to address my question?
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We know this is Menow's full time job. This is his life. Poor thing.
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It is a sad life he must lead, OP would you just Hate to have to keep up with all this in-your-face truth and try day after day all day and night trying to come up with new words to disagree, or detract from it?? It is hard not to pitty him now. Menow hey bud why don't you take a day off go get some sun throw back a fe brewskis? I think you just need a little r and r!
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I think his personality is probably quite suited to this kind of work:

bitter, pathologically argumentative, closeminded

I'm pretty sure he would have an unhappy home life because his social skills suck.
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Your statement, which I quoted. QUOTE: "SO normally in each of these seasonal time of the year (Summer and Winter), the Sun "goes out" (from east or west) in about 15 degrees,"

 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Its true, otherwise tell how many degrees are in about the middle usa region.
 Quoting: DUCM900


I already posted the resource for determining that. I guess you ignored it, like you always do.

[link to suncalc.net]

You really should learn better English. This makes little sense.

 Quoting: Menow 18943200


whatever

No, you are claiming that it is abnormal for the sun to ever rise/set more than 15 degrees from east/west. That claim of yours is simply false.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


And my claim its right.
 Quoting: DUCM900


No, it isn't.

[link to suncalc.net]
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These are not 'ideas' to be debunked. These are very simple, straightforward observations. There is not debate about observing when the sun sets or rises and comparing the 'official' times listed. Our local shills want to argue bc they get paid to do so, to obfuscate, frustrate, run-down posters, deflect attention, ridicule, etc. etc.

Again, I urge you to ignore them, not only for yourselves but for the others who visit this thread, so visitors don't get frustrated and leave. Let them argue amongst themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30218778


clappa
 Quoting: IwasKidding


What's funny is... if nobody debunks this shit the thread will just die- seen in a hundred times. Even you people get tired of the vague, anecdotal claims.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


You see it that many times because it is your life/job to keep hammering away until you make everyone trying to be HONEST and share their Observations sick of your posts detracting fromwhat they are trying to speak of. Yet you and the others like you NEVER get tired of Being in Denial...actually I do not think you are in denial you know well and good what we are reporting it TRUE and REAL yet you have a job to do.
 Quoting: IwasKidding


Well, to be honest, it is kind of cool having your own predictions bear out time and again. People have been claiming that the Sun/Earth/Stars have been out of place since before 2003, yet NONE of them address my simple experiment, which proves that claim is not the case.

What's nice is that it doesn't matter who I am -- anyone can go out and do the experiment themselves, or witness the experiment themselves. Yet believers seem singularly unwilling to do this. It fascinates me.
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Hilarious, because you don't HAVE any solid evidence to present in the first place! You would get laughed out of the place, not because of any conspiracy, but because your claims are LAUGHABLE and you people can't tell the difference!

It ALWAYS comes down to a vast conspiracy in these matters... A-L-L-W-A-Y-S.
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SO move along --> pennywise



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These are not 'ideas' to be debunked. These are very simple, straightforward observations. There is not debate about observing when the sun sets or rises and comparing the 'official' times listed. Our local shills want to argue bc they get paid to do so, to obfuscate, frustrate, run-down posters, deflect attention, ridicule, etc. etc.

Again, I urge you to ignore them, not only for yourselves but for the others who visit this thread, so visitors don't get frustrated and leave. Let them argue amongst themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30218778


clappa
 Quoting: IwasKidding


What's funny is... if nobody debunks this shit the thread will just die- seen in a hundred times. Even you people get tired of the vague, anecdotal claims.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


You see it that many times because it is your life/job to keep hammering away until you make everyone trying to be HONEST and share their Observations sick of your posts detracting fromwhat they are trying to speak of. Yet you and the others like you NEVER get tired of Being in Denial...actually I do not think you are in denial you know well and good what we are reporting it TRUE and REAL yet you have a job to do.
 Quoting: IwasKidding


Seriously. I doubt very much that he's married or even has a girlfriend unless she's mute and deaf. Could you imagine having a relationship with such a person?

He always has to be right, and the partner always has to be wrong. I'm sure a failed personal life would only add to his bitterness and help his job performance.

He's probably quite unattractive too, which would account for his spending untold hours on the internet. Bitter and ugly, most likely all alone.

Christmas is coming up Menow. I hope you have someone to spend the holidays with. Does your mommy still like you?
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Thread: Sun Did NOT Rise On TIME This AM I am Utterly Convinced by my OWN observation there is a difference.
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Then you should publish your findings and the science you used to arrive at them. You'll be world-famous!
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Um...what world are you living in? "THEY" are not gonna allow any truth that SMACKs 'em in the face to be published.....
 Quoting: IwasKidding



Meaning that when they tell you what you are saying is ridiculous, and no matter what is presented to demonstrate how you are wrong, you will take that as proof of a vast coverup of your "TRVTH". Hilarious, because you don't HAVE any solid evidence to present in the first place! You would get laughed out of the place, not because of any conspiracy, but because your claims are LAUGHABLE and you people can't tell the difference!

It ALWAYS comes down to a vast conspiracy in these matters... A-L-L-W-A-Y-S.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


MENOW you are a LIAR it is just that simple. I am not a liar in regards to this I stand behind what I saw 100% just keep up the good work you are just so believable.
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If the Sun (or Earth) were moving in *any* unpredictable ways, why can GOTO telescopes track everything, including the Sun, flawlessly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Folks, 74444444444444444444444 is shilly too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30218778


Yes... ignore all questions and points of fact, since they will prove you wrong. It's "woo" 101. DON'T BREAK THE "WOO" RULES!!
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We know this is Menow's full time job. This is his life. Poor thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30218778


It is a sad life he must lead, OP would you just Hate to have to keep up with all this in-your-face truth and try day after day all day and night trying to come up with new words to disagree, or detract from it?? It is hard not to pitty him now. Menow hey bud why don't you take a day off go get some sun throw back a fe brewskis? I think you just need a little r and r!
 Quoting: IwasKidding


I think his personality is probably quite suited to this kind of work:

bitter, pathologically argumentative, closeminded

I'm pretty sure he would have an unhappy home life because his social skills suck.
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The constant and predictable falling back to ad hominems is also a fairly good tell.
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We know this is Menow's full time job. This is his life. Poor thing.
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It is a sad life he must lead, OP would you just Hate to have to keep up with all this in-your-face truth and try day after day all day and night trying to come up with new words to disagree, or detract from it?? It is hard not to pitty him now. Menow hey bud why don't you take a day off go get some sun throw back a fe brewskis? I think you just need a little r and r!
 Quoting: IwasKidding


I think his personality is probably quite suited to this kind of work:

bitter, pathologically argumentative, closeminded

I'm pretty sure he would have an unhappy home life because his social skills suck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30218778


I cross my fingers he does not have a wife...the poor dear
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Thread: THE SUN THIS MORNING

first post:

IS IT IN THE WRONG PLACE??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30218778


yes for me that is old news and it is just too obvious..but then you have people still shillin' about it. I am just glad of how I have NO DOUBT about the things being true it is just not even a hint of questioning it any longer. I SEE said the no longer blind woman!
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Yep... another standard "woo" rule: Declare that you are right and allow no further questioning of your claims. That has worked great for Nancy Lieder- did you learn it from her?
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We know this is Menow's full time job. This is his life. Poor thing.
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It is a sad life he must lead, OP would you just Hate to have to keep up with all this in-your-face truth and try day after day all day and night trying to come up with new words to disagree, or detract from it?? It is hard not to pitty him now. Menow hey bud why don't you take a day off go get some sun throw back a fe brewskis? I think you just need a little r and r!
 Quoting: IwasKidding


I think his personality is probably quite suited to this kind of work:

bitter, pathologically argumentative, closeminded

I'm pretty sure he would have an unhappy home life because his social skills suck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30218778


I cross my fingers he does not have a wife...the poor dear
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I rest my case.

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