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The Sun Was Supposed To Set At 4:41 Central Time In Missouri, 12/18 , Still Hasn't Set At 5:01

 
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If the Sun (or Earth) were moving in *any* unpredictable ways, why can GOTO telescopes track everything, including the Sun, flawlessly?
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Folks, 74444444444444444444444 is shilly too.
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Yes... ignore all questions and points of fact, since they will prove you wrong. It's "woo" 101. DON'T BREAK THE "WOO" RULES!!
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I think you missed what I had to say. THERE IS NO QUESTION IN MY MIND ANY LONGER.
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We should all try to find a girlfriend for Menow so he isn't so bitter.

She must be blind, because it's already been deduced that he must be terribly unattractive to be such a surly curr.

She must be deaf and mute so he can win all the arguments.

A veritable female Tommy. That's what he needs. Any dating site suggestions would be appreciated. After all, we all try to help each other here at GLP.
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Thread: THE SUN THIS MORNING

first post:

IS IT IN THE WRONG PLACE??
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yes for me that is old news and it is just too obvious..but then you have people still shillin' about it. I am just glad of how I have NO DOUBT about the things being true it is just not even a hint of questioning it any longer. I SEE said the no longer blind woman!
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Yep... another standard "woo" rule: Declare that you are right and allow no further questioning of your claims. That has worked great for Nancy Lieder- did you learn it from her?
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sure buddy question and throw poo all you like it remains that in this I am correct. YOu may continue but know that you have lost one more person to pull the wool over their eyes. Hell even wool won't keep that bright ass sun out@
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No, it isn't.

[link to suncalc.net]
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That's just a simple tool that is reporting what its happening by now, like stellarium shills tool is. SO what?

Don't you see that it show about 30 degrees insted of 15 on setting and rising of the Sun?



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If the Sun (or Earth) were moving in *any* unpredictable ways, why can GOTO telescopes track everything, including the Sun, flawlessly?
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Folks, 74444444444444444444444 is shilly too.
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Yes... ignore all questions and points of fact, since they will prove you wrong. It's "woo" 101. DON'T BREAK THE "WOO" RULES!!
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


I think you missed what I had to say. THERE IS NO QUESTION IN MY MIND ANY LONGER.
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If there is no evidence that can change your mind, you are by definition not thinking rationally about said issue.

Just FYI.
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If the Sun (or Earth) were moving in *any* unpredictable ways, why can GOTO telescopes track everything, including the Sun, flawlessly?
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Folks, 74444444444444444444444 is shilly too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30218778


Yes... ignore all questions and points of fact, since they will prove you wrong. It's "woo" 101. DON'T BREAK THE "WOO" RULES!!
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


I think you missed what I had to say. THERE IS NO QUESTION IN MY MIND ANY LONGER.
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He purposely misses what you say. It's his job. Don't expect him to act like a rational, honest person. Don't let him get your 'goat'. That's why I'm encouraging good, rational people to scroll by his posts.
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We should all try to find a girlfriend for Menow so he isn't so bitter.

She must be blind, because it's already been deduced that he must be terribly unattractive to be such a surly curr.

She must be deaf and mute so he can win all the arguments.

A veritable female Tommy. That's what he needs. Any dating site suggestions would be appreciated. After all, we all try to help each other here at GLP.
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Nope really it is best to let him move on to another thread...hey MAYBE there is a female shill here who is his true soulmate!
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Folks, 74444444444444444444444 is shilly too.
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Yes... ignore all questions and points of fact, since they will prove you wrong. It's "woo" 101. DON'T BREAK THE "WOO" RULES!!
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


I think you missed what I had to say. THERE IS NO QUESTION IN MY MIND ANY LONGER.
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If there is no evidence that can change your mind, you are by definition not thinking rationally about said issue.

Just FYI.
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Folks, 74444444444444444444444 is shilly too.
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Yes... ignore all questions and points of fact, since they will prove you wrong. It's "woo" 101. DON'T BREAK THE "WOO" RULES!!
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


I think you missed what I had to say. THERE IS NO QUESTION IN MY MIND ANY LONGER.
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If there is no evidence that can change your mind, you are by definition not thinking rationally about said issue.

Just FYI.
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No, it isn't.

[link to suncalc.net]
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That's a simple tool that is reporting what its happening by now, like stellarium shills tool is. SO what?



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Well, how about telescopes with un-updated software from more than a decade ago still being able to track the heavens, then? How did the shills accomplish THAT little tidbit?
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Yes... ignore all questions and points of fact, since they will prove you wrong. It's "woo" 101. DON'T BREAK THE "WOO" RULES!!
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


I think you missed what I had to say. THERE IS NO QUESTION IN MY MIND ANY LONGER.
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If there is no evidence that can change your mind, you are by definition not thinking rationally about said issue.

Just FYI.
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OOPS SORRY BUTTON HAPPY! There is Evidence...don't you see?? I have all the evidence it is proof positive as in I am positive! I really am happy it should freak me out but I can see these differences, I am so surprised that it even is up for debate after today. You guys must be about to be laid off cause there is just not going to be a job for you much longer!
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Eye witness testimony is anecdotalism?
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"Testimony"? Hardly.

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tes·ti·mo·ny (tst-mn)
n. pl. tes·ti·mo·nies
1.
a. A declaration by a witness under oath, as that given before a court or deliberative body.
b. All such declarations, spoken or written, offered in a legal case or deliberative hearing.
2. Evidence in support of a fact or assertion; proof.
3. A public declaration regarding a religious experience.
4.
a. The stone tablets inscribed with the Law of Moses.
b. The ark containing these tablets.
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A post on an internet forum is most certainly "anecdotal", by sheer definition.

Such an observation is clear obfuscation.
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Wrong. See above.

We do believe our eyes.
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No, you believe your memory, and NONE of you have the balls to actually take a picture of a sunrise/set with a timepiece in the image. In fact, y'all can't even agree that the sunrise/set times are "off". Some of you claim it's caused by something else. It's a morass of anecdote with ZERO physical evidence to support ANY of it.
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Well, how about telescopes with un-updated software from more than a decade ago still being able to track the heavens, then? How did the shills accomplish THAT little tidbit?
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Hello!! sheep
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We know this is Menow's full time job. This is his life. Poor thing.
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It is a sad life he must lead, OP would you just Hate to have to keep up with all this in-your-face truth and try day after day all day and night trying to come up with new words to disagree, or detract from it?? It is hard not to pitty him now. Menow hey bud why don't you take a day off go get some sun throw back a fe brewskis? I think you just need a little r and r!
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I think his personality is probably quite suited to this kind of work:

bitter, pathologically argumentative, closeminded

I'm pretty sure he would have an unhappy home life because his social skills suck.
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The constant and predictable falling back to ad hominems is also a fairly good tell.
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What, no debate?

QED
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QED = It is proven.
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clappa
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What's funny is... if nobody debunks this shit the thread will just die- seen in a hundred times. Even you people get tired of the vague, anecdotal claims.
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You see it that many times because it is your life/job to keep hammering away until you make everyone trying to be HONEST and share their Observations sick of your posts detracting fromwhat they are trying to speak of. Yet you and the others like you NEVER get tired of Being in Denial...actually I do not think you are in denial you know well and good what we are reporting it TRUE and REAL yet you have a job to do.
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Well, to be honest, it is kind of cool having your own predictions bear out time and again. People have been claiming that the Sun/Earth/Stars have been out of place since before 2003, yet NONE of them address my simple experiment, which proves that claim is not the case.

What's nice is that it doesn't matter who I am -- anyone can go out and do the experiment themselves, or witness the experiment themselves. Yet believers seem singularly unwilling to do this. It fascinates me.
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And the same for my suggested experiment of taking a time-lapse vid or series of stills of Polaris. NONE of them is willing to do it, or if they have they never admit it. Heh.
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We should all try to find a girlfriend for Menow so he isn't so bitter.

She must be blind, because it's already been deduced that he must be terribly unattractive to be such a surly curr.

She must be deaf and mute so he can win all the arguments.

A veritable female Tommy. That's what he needs. Any dating site suggestions would be appreciated. After all, we all try to help each other here at GLP.
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Nope really it is best to let him move on to another thread...hey MAYBE there is a female shill here who is his true soulmate!
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Do you think he has a soul?
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Well, how about telescopes with un-updated software from more than a decade ago still being able to track the heavens, then? How did the shills accomplish THAT little tidbit?
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Hello!! sheep
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Hi!

I can't help but notice you failed to address my question. Perhaps you'd care to try again?
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It is a sad life he must lead, OP would you just Hate to have to keep up with all this in-your-face truth and try day after day all day and night trying to come up with new words to disagree, or detract from it?? It is hard not to pitty him now. Menow hey bud why don't you take a day off go get some sun throw back a fe brewskis? I think you just need a little r and r!
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I think his personality is probably quite suited to this kind of work:

bitter, pathologically argumentative, closeminded

I'm pretty sure he would have an unhappy home life because his social skills suck.
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The constant and predictable falling back to ad hominems is also a fairly good tell.
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What, no debate?

QED
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If you'd care to debate about the supposed abnormal position of the Earth, Sun, or sky, I'm game. But I will continue pointing out your logical fallacies as long as you keep making them...
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ok now stop with the shills, we've tested them so much.

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Thread: Water levels over 4 feet above normal in some areas along the East Coast!!! Surges of 5+ feet near Philly NOW!!!
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We see thru Menow's biased, ridiculous arguments from the start.

Poor bitter soul. How's you mom doing?
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Menow is just a basement dwelling ape.

He barely knows what a sun is.

Everything you say is null.

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ok now stop with the shills, we've tested them so much.

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Interesting. What you seemingly haven't tested is your own claims via measurements. My old telescope idea, and Menow's time-lapse of Polaris, are both perfect ways to test and measure what you believe you are observing.

I fail to understand why believers are so reticent to confirm via measurement their own observations.
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I think his personality is probably quite suited to this kind of work:

bitter, pathologically argumentative, closeminded

I'm pretty sure he would have an unhappy home life because his social skills suck.
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The constant and predictable falling back to ad hominems is also a fairly good tell.
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What, no debate?

QED
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If you'd care to debate about the supposed abnormal position of the Earth, Sun, or sky, I'm game. But I will continue pointing out your logical fallacies as long as you keep making them...
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I would much rather debate about what Menow looks like and why he is bitter and all alone. There is no debating the simple, straightforward eyewitness testimony of the contributors to this thread. It is a lot more fun to pick on your pathologicallly argumentative, intellectually dishonest who is obviously tutoring you in the trade. Are you also quite ugly?
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I think his personality is probably quite suited to this kind of work:

bitter, pathologically argumentative, closeminded

I'm pretty sure he would have an unhappy home life because his social skills suck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30218778


The constant and predictable falling back to ad hominems is also a fairly good tell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


What, no debate?

QED
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If you'd care to debate about the supposed abnormal position of the Earth, Sun, or sky, I'm game. But I will continue pointing out your logical fallacies as long as you keep making them...
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I would much rather debate about what Menow looks like and why he is bitter and all alone. There is no debating the simple, straightforward eyewitness testimony of the contributors to this thread. It is a lot more fun to pick on your pathologicallly argumentative, intellectually dishonest buddy who is obviously tutoring you in the trade. Are you also quite ugly?
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The constant and predictable falling back to ad hominems is also a fairly good tell.
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What, no debate?

QED


If you'd care to debate about the supposed abnormal position of the Earth, Sun, or sky, I'm game. But I will continue pointing out your logical fallacies as long as you keep making them...


I would much rather debate about what Menow looks like and why he is bitter and all alone. There is no debating the simple, straightforward eyewitness testimony of the contributors to this thread. It is a lot more fun to pick on
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thologicallly argumentative, intellectually dishonest who is obviously tutoring you in the trade. Are you also quite ugly?


Ah, so you wish no rational debate whatsoever. You aren't inte
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n fact.

Amusing, if a little sad.
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Then you should publish your findings and the science you used to arrive at them. You'll be world-famous!
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Um...what world are you living in? "THEY" are not gonna allow any truth that SMACKs 'em in the face to be published.....
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Meaning that when they tell you what you are saying is ridiculous, and no matter what is presented to demonstrate how you are wrong, you will take that as proof of a vast coverup of your "TRVTH". Hilarious, because you don't HAVE any solid evidence to present in the first place! You would get laughed out of the place, not because of any conspiracy, but because your claims are LAUGHABLE and you people can't tell the difference!

It ALWAYS comes down to a vast conspiracy in these matters... A-L-L-W-A-Y-S.
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MENOW you are a LIAR it is just that simple. I am not a liar in regards to this I stand behind what I saw 100% just keep up the good work you are just so believable.
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You are welcome to show evidence of any lie I have told. I can't even keep it straight as to what various things you all claim to "see". Can't you come up with ANY solid evidence to support what you claim to "see"?? If you can "see" it, why can't you take a picture of it?
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If it hasn't been said yet, expecting the sky to go dark right at the time of sunset is incorrect. Sunset is the time the sun goes below the horizon, so there will still be light in the sky. At the equator, the sky goes dark in minutes after sunset. The time lag between sunset and darkness increases the further towards the north (or south) pole you go. In Portland, the lag is about 20 mintues.

Otherwise, a lot of you will report that the sky got dark later than the stated sunset time.
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I would much rather debate about what Menow looks like and why he is bitter and all alone. There is no debating the simple, straightforward eyewitness testimony of the contributors to this thread. It is a lot more fun to pick on your pathologicallly argumentative, intellectually dishonest buddy who is obviously tutoring you in the trade. Are you also quite ugly?
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Whoa, the tags went a bit crazy there...

Ah, so you wish no rational debate whatsoever. You aren't interested in fact.

Amusing, if a little sad.

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