The Sun Was Supposed To Set At 4:41 Central Time In Missouri, 12/18 , Still Hasn't Set At 5:01 | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 30218778 United States 12/19/2012 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone else mentioned it might be due to the aerosols in the air and the light is bending perhaps. It was overcast in St. Louis today, so perhaps it seemed to set on time because there wasn't a hyper-illumination effect? Yesterday it was clear and sunny and set about 25 mins. late. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30218778 That sounds rational OP. They are always spraying crap here this year has been one of the worst. I see it all the time. I really don't know Obsidian. I think we just need to try to keep gathering info and hope someone can figure it out. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 30218778 United States 12/19/2012 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It appears that the sunset times are correct but the observed extension of visible light and the extended time needed for artificial light may be due to increased luminosity of the Sun. Quoting: PIR So the "illusion" that the Sunset is later is just that but the noted extension of visible light is NOT an illusion but observation of a true anomaly. So in conclusion the orbital status of the Sun and Earth are correct but the Sun has become so much brighter that the radiated energy is extending or diffusing into the atmosphere far beyond the norm and therefore illuminates the sky well beyond the norm. So...the Sun may be going into a hyper state of illumination at this time. If this is the case...look out! Well that's not happy news. Let's just keep gathering info. I hope more people chime in, and certain others disappear. |
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_Obsidian_ User ID: 14308887 United States 12/19/2012 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone else mentioned it might be due to the aerosols in the air and the light is bending perhaps. It was overcast in St. Louis today, so perhaps it seemed to set on time because there wasn't a hyper-illumination effect? Yesterday it was clear and sunny and set about 25 mins. late. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30218778 That sounds rational OP. They are always spraying crap here this year has been one of the worst. I see it all the time. I really don't know Obsidian. I think we just need to try to keep gathering info and hope someone can figure it out. Sunset was at 4:43 today its 5:06 and barely going down but its darker then it was yesterday. Its very clear btw no clouds whatsoever. Yesterday there were some extreme clouds happening haha "Only one candle left to burn now, before the darkness comes" "Happiness consumes itself like a flame. It cannot burn for ever, it must go out, and the presentiment of its end destroys it at its very peak." "But what is Hope? Nothing but the paint on the face of Existence; the least touch of truth rubs it off, and then we see what a hollow-cheeked harlot we have got hold of" |
Menow User ID: 18943200 United States 12/19/2012 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christmas time stands out last year and it was definitely earlier than this year. Ok here's one for you. Off the top of your head which light is at the top of a street light green red or yellow? Just wondering we see it all the time but most are on autopilot and then there's some of us that see beyond. You "see beyond" what, reality? I'm sure you think you do. Do you have ANY solid evidence that it's lighter, later this year than last other that your memory? ANYTHING AT ALL? The fact that you didn't answer my question tells me that you aren't sure. I don't see beyond reality. But I surely pay attention to detail. The answer to this is get off the thread and go look morning and night. If you don't see anything off then quit coming here to prove you know the answer. If you see something off then join the club. But honestly rationality tells me we have nothing to gain here except a headache and wasted time with all this silly banter. Its like people who talk shit on songs they don't like on you tube. Gahhh don't like it it don't listen grow up and stop trying to poop on the party? So to speak. I consider it a duty, of sorts, to debunk the wild, hysterical, doomsday claims and predictions you seem to think of as a "party". The fact that you think random people can have discovered that the sun is setting late, or whatever you think this "off-ness" is speaks volumes and so does the fact that you didn't answer MY question. I didn't answer you because it makes no difference at all to the question at hand. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30363248 Netherlands 12/19/2012 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Like some people are saying, the sun is unusually bright and we may have daylight after it sets. Dunno. Sun also appears to be much further South than it normally is for this time of year. |
Menow User ID: 18943200 United States 12/19/2012 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone else mentioned it might be due to the aerosols in the air and the light is bending perhaps. It was overcast in St. Louis today, so perhaps it seemed to set on time because there wasn't a hyper-illumination effect? Yesterday it was clear and sunny and set about 25 mins. late. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30218778 How about taking a picture of the allegedly late-setting sun along with a time? No? Didn't think you would. |
Da fuq User ID: 16258666 United States 12/19/2012 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: _Obsidian_ Christmas time stands out last year and it was definitely earlier than this year. Ok here's one for you. Off the top of your head which light is at the top of a street light green red or yellow? Just wondering we see it all the time but most are on autopilot and then there's some of us that see beyond. You "see beyond" what, reality? I'm sure you think you do. Do you have ANY solid evidence that it's lighter, later this year than last other that your memory? ANYTHING AT ALL? The fact that you didn't answer my question tells me that you aren't sure. I don't see beyond reality. But I surely pay attention to detail. The answer to this is get off the thread and go look morning and night. If you don't see anything off then quit coming here to prove you know the answer. If you see something off then join the club. But honestly rationality tells me we have nothing to gain here except a headache and wasted time with all this silly banter. Its like people who talk shit on songs they don't like on you tube. Gahhh don't like it it don't listen grow up and stop trying to poop on the party? So to speak. I consider it a duty, of sorts, to debunk the wild, hysterical, doomsday claims and predictions you seem to think of as a "party". The fact that you think random people can have discovered that the sun is setting late, or whatever you think this "off-ness" is speaks volumes and so does the fact that you didn't answer MY question. I didn't answer you because it makes no difference at all to the question at hand. You have done none of the sort sir. You lose, you get nothing. Last Edited by Da fuq on 12/19/2012 08:15 PM |
Da fuq User ID: 16258666 United States 12/19/2012 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone else mentioned it might be due to the aerosols in the air and the light is bending perhaps. It was overcast in St. Louis today, so perhaps it seemed to set on time because there wasn't a hyper-illumination effect? Yesterday it was clear and sunny and set about 25 mins. late. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30218778 How about taking a picture of the allegedly late-setting sun along with a time? No? Didn't think you would. I have a friend in socal takin pics right now shillboy. |
Menow User ID: 18943200 United States 12/19/2012 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | East Coast, 34 degrees latitude, sun set later again today on toward 5:30pm. Cannot give an exact time because I am behind a lot of tall trees. Didn't start getting dark until near 6p. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30363248 Like some people are saying, the sun is unusually bright and we may have daylight after it sets. Dunno. Sun also appears to be much further South than it normally is for this time of year. And you think the sun is much further south than it normally is for this time of year, because? |
DUCM900 User ID: 30357243 Italy 12/19/2012 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone else mentioned it might be due to the aerosols in the air and the light is bending perhaps. It was overcast in St. Louis today, so perhaps it seemed to set on time because there wasn't a hyper-illumination effect? Yesterday it was clear and sunny and set about 25 mins. late. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30218778 Maybe at this point, a sort of albedo effect but from the sky. - |
Menow User ID: 18943200 United States 12/19/2012 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Menow 18943200 You "see beyond" what, reality? I'm sure you think you do. Do you have ANY solid evidence that it's lighter, later this year than last other that your memory? ANYTHING AT ALL? The fact that you didn't answer my question tells me that you aren't sure. I don't see beyond reality. But I surely pay attention to detail. The answer to this is get off the thread and go look morning and night. If you don't see anything off then quit coming here to prove you know the answer. If you see something off then join the club. But honestly rationality tells me we have nothing to gain here except a headache and wasted time with all this silly banter. Its like people who talk shit on songs they don't like on you tube. Gahhh don't like it it don't listen grow up and stop trying to poop on the party? So to speak. I consider it a duty, of sorts, to debunk the wild, hysterical, doomsday claims and predictions you seem to think of as a "party". The fact that you think random people can have discovered that the sun is setting late, or whatever you think this "off-ness" is speaks volumes and so does the fact that you didn't answer MY question. I didn't answer you because it makes no difference at all to the question at hand. You have done none of the sort sir. You lose, you get nothing. The archives on this site can not only be used to confirm sunset location, but also approximate daily sunset TIMES over several years. I'm sure you will ignore it like the other suntards have. [link to www.katkam.ca] |
Da fuq User ID: 16258666 United States 12/19/2012 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The following information is provided for San Diego, San Diego County, California (longitude W117.1, latitude N32.8): Wednesday 19 December 2012 Pacific Standard Time SUN Begin civil twilight 6:19 a.m. Sunrise 6:46 a.m. Sun transit 11:46 a.m. Sunset 4:46 p.m. End civil twilight 5:13 p.m. Wow guys I got it, friend is literally sending me pics as i speak at 5:20 with the sky VERY illuminated. Posting pics soon. |
_Obsidian_ User ID: 14308887 United States 12/19/2012 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: _Obsidian_ Christmas time stands out last year and it was definitely earlier than this year. Ok here's one for you. Off the top of your head which light is at the top of a street light green red or yellow? Just wondering we see it all the time but most are on autopilot and then there's some of us that see beyond. You "see beyond" what, reality? I'm sure you think you do. Do you have ANY solid evidence that it's lighter, later this year than last other that your memory? ANYTHING AT ALL? The fact that you didn't answer my question tells me that you aren't sure. I don't see beyond reality. But I surely pay attention to detail. The answer to this is get off the thread and go look morning and night. If you don't see anything off then quit coming here to prove you know the answer. If you see something off then join the club. But honestly rationality tells me we have nothing to gain here except a headache and wasted time with all this silly banter. Its like people who talk shit on songs they don't like on you tube. Gahhh don't like it it don't listen grow up and stop trying to poop on the party? So to speak. I consider it a duty, of sorts, to debunk the wild, hysterical, doomsday claims and predictions you seem to think of as a "party". The fact that you think random people can have discovered that the sun is setting late, or whatever you think this "off-ness" is speaks volumes and so does the fact that you didn't answer MY question. I didn't answer you because it makes no difference at all to the question at hand. Ummm I did answer your question for one thing. For two im not listening to random people I came here to discuss what I saw with my own two eyes and it just so happened to be the case that other people in various areas noticed it too. It may not be doom. There could be a rational explanation for it. Like what the OP posted recently. If that is your duty good luck also good luck with that round peg we all know how that turns out. In other words I don't think you'll get much accomplished. But I admire your conviction despite your outwardly condescending tone lol "Only one candle left to burn now, before the darkness comes" "Happiness consumes itself like a flame. It cannot burn for ever, it must go out, and the presentiment of its end destroys it at its very peak." "But what is Hope? Nothing but the paint on the face of Existence; the least touch of truth rubs it off, and then we see what a hollow-cheeked harlot we have got hold of" |
Menow User ID: 18943200 United States 12/19/2012 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone else mentioned it might be due to the aerosols in the air and the light is bending perhaps. It was overcast in St. Louis today, so perhaps it seemed to set on time because there wasn't a hyper-illumination effect? Yesterday it was clear and sunny and set about 25 mins. late. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30218778 How about taking a picture of the allegedly late-setting sun along with a time? No? Didn't think you would. I have a friend in socal takin pics right now shillboy. And they will include an accurate timepiece in the shot and give a location, right? |
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_Obsidian_ User ID: 14308887 United States 12/19/2012 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The following information is provided for San Diego, San Diego County, California (longitude W117.1, latitude N32.8): Quoting: Da fuq Wednesday 19 December 2012 Pacific Standard Time SUN Begin civil twilight 6:19 a.m. Sunrise 6:46 a.m. Sun transit 11:46 a.m. Sunset 4:46 p.m. End civil twilight 5:13 p.m. Wow guys I got it, friend is literally sending me pics as i speak at 5:20 with the sky VERY illuminated. Posting pics soon. Ill go get a shot here too. Its 5:25 and still very illuminated. "Only one candle left to burn now, before the darkness comes" "Happiness consumes itself like a flame. It cannot burn for ever, it must go out, and the presentiment of its end destroys it at its very peak." "But what is Hope? Nothing but the paint on the face of Existence; the least touch of truth rubs it off, and then we see what a hollow-cheeked harlot we have got hold of" |
Karlos User ID: 30322593 United Kingdom 12/19/2012 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm currently performing solar astrometry to measure the sun's position precisely to a far great resolution than the human eye... What do you think I'll find, eh suntards? Quoting: Dr. Astro Hi Astrotard, there is a good job for you here: ---> [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] - Care to answer the question? I've got plenty on my plate tonight, I don't care to teach lunar geography as well. SO you believe that freaking thing its normal to see on the moon RIGHT? I also answered this on the other thread. Yes, it's normal. the feature is called 'Rupes Recta', or more commonly, 'the Straight Wall' It is a fault line in the Mare Nubium (Sea of Clouds) Last Edited by Karlos on 12/19/2012 08:29 PM |
Da fuq User ID: 16258666 United States 12/19/2012 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone else mentioned it might be due to the aerosols in the air and the light is bending perhaps. It was overcast in St. Louis today, so perhaps it seemed to set on time because there wasn't a hyper-illumination effect? Yesterday it was clear and sunny and set about 25 mins. late. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30218778 How about taking a picture of the allegedly late-setting sun along with a time? No? Didn't think you would. I have a friend in socal takin pics right now shillboy. And they will include an accurate timepiece in the shot and give a location, right? The following information is provided for San Diego, San Diego County, California (longitude W117.1, latitude N32.8): Quoting: Da fuq Wednesday 19 December 2012 Pacific Standard Time SUN Begin civil twilight 6:19 a.m. Sunrise 6:46 a.m. Sun transit 11:46 a.m. Sunset 4:46 p.m. End civil twilight 5:13 p.m. Wow guys I got it, friend is literally sending me pics as i speak at 5:20 with the sky VERY illuminated. Posting pics soon. Ill go get a shot here too. Its 5:25 and still very illuminated. Not according to Shill. |
_Obsidian_ User ID: 14308887 United States 12/19/2012 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I got some bloody pics and I froze my flipping ass off lol Im putting them in photobucket. "Only one candle left to burn now, before the darkness comes" "Happiness consumes itself like a flame. It cannot burn for ever, it must go out, and the presentiment of its end destroys it at its very peak." "But what is Hope? Nothing but the paint on the face of Existence; the least touch of truth rubs it off, and then we see what a hollow-cheeked harlot we have got hold of" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3888116 United States 12/19/2012 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Today was normal...by 5:10-15 it was already dark. These was a definite difference between yesterday and today. |
Da fuq User ID: 16258666 United States 12/19/2012 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | *****PROOF The following information is provided for San Diego, San Diego County, California (longitude W117.1, latitude N32.8): Wednesday 19 December 2012 Pacific Standard Time SUN Begin civil twilight 6:19 a.m. Sunrise 6:46 a.m. Sun transit 11:46 a.m. Sunset 4:46 p.m. End civil twilight 5:13 p.m. [link to www.flickr.com] ****************************** That pic was at 5:30 p.m Twighlight didn't completely fade till about 5:38 btw. Come on shill. Start shilling. Last Edited by Da fuq on 12/19/2012 08:43 PM |
DUCM900 User ID: 30357243 Italy 12/19/2012 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Care to answer the question? I've got plenty on my plate tonight, I don't care to teach lunar geography as well. SO you believe that freaking thing its normal to see on the moon RIGHT? I also answered this on the other thread. Yes, it's normal. the feature is called 'Rupes Recta', or more commonly, 'the Straight Wall' It is a fault line in the Mare Nubium (Sea of Clouds) Uaaattt??? where did you find that info? (Link to NASA plz otherwise you are just shilling). - Last Edited by IWASTHERE on 12/19/2012 08:44 PM |
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Karlos User ID: 30322593 United Kingdom 12/19/2012 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Astro Care to answer the question? I've got plenty on my plate tonight, I don't care to teach lunar geography as well. SO you believe that freaking thing its normal to see on the moon RIGHT? I also answered this on the other thread. Yes, it's normal. the feature is called 'Rupes Recta', or more commonly, 'the Straight Wall' It is a fault line in the Mare Nubium (Sea of Clouds) Uaaattt??? where did you find that info? (Link to NASA plz). I got the info from memory - I recognised it as soon as I saw it. And you don't need a NASA link FFS - they don't own a monopoly on space study y'know. Google the name - there should be tons of pics and info. |
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Da fuq User ID: 16258666 United States 12/19/2012 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | *****PROOF Quoting: Da fuq The following information is provided for San Diego, San Diego County, California (longitude W117.1, latitude N32.8): Wednesday 19 December 2012 Pacific Standard Time SUN Begin civil twilight 6:19 a.m. Sunrise 6:46 a.m. Sun transit 11:46 a.m. Sunset 4:46 p.m. End civil twilight 5:13 p.m. [link to www.flickr.com] ****************************** That pic was at 5:30 p.m Twighlight didn't completely fade till about 5:38 btw. Come on shill. Start shilling. |
Karlos User ID: 30322593 United Kingdom 12/19/2012 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I got the info from memory - I recognised it as soon as I saw it. Quoting: Karlos And you don't need a NASA link FFS - they don't own a monopoly on space study y'know. Google the name - there should be tons of pics and info. confirmed confirmed - LMFAO I'm a 'shill' because I knew something about astronomy. You are fuckin' priceless. |