The Sun Was Supposed To Set At 4:41 Central Time In Missouri, 12/18 , Still Hasn't Set At 5:01

When you have to resort to claiming that amateur astronomers like me are lying, you've officially gone off the deep end and you're beyond all help. Take your meds, I am not lying.

from MIssouri:

Thread: temperature spike...US weather map [EDIT: spike gone, readings normal now]

The sky is still very light.....Sunset was at 15.41 hours, it is also very cloudy and raining.....I remember when it used to be overcast and raining it got dark quite quickly.....not so now, the sky is still very light for the conditions. It's quite weird looking....wish I could post a pic.....it's now 15.55 the sky is still light. WTH!!!

Ok here is what I have personally observed the past several days after recognizing the recent posts about this. I am located in southeastern Michigan. Every night I get out of work at 5:30 EST. A co-worker drops me off at home 3-4 nights a week. I arrive promply at 5:45 in my driveway, every time she drops me off. About 3-4 weeks ago she made a comment, "Wow, your house is so dark." I told her I know, I usually turn my porch lights on as soon as I get home because it is very dark here. When she made that comment I recalled vividly that is was DARK DARK out and clear out. Just 2 weeks ago I commented to her this time "man my house really is dark without the lights on huh?". There was no twilight left at all, and with my porch lights off it made my home outline and yard very dark, and difficult to see. Now, today rolls around and the same routine... pulled in at 5:45. Immediately as I was getting ready to exit the car I said wow thats weird. It was definitely still twilight out... not much though. But noticeably lighter, enough to where I could see the outline of my house against the sky very easily, and I noticed that finding my keyhole was much easier than weeks prior. Usually I fumble with getting the key to fit, my porch overhang really gets dark underneath. So, YES the evening sky has began to lighten up already. Very strange seeing how it should be continuing to darken at least until tomorrow. And I have already ruled out overcast/clear skys for a possible reasoning for the early lightening, it was always crystal clear and cold out the nights it was dark when I arrived home. I might have noticed this earlier this week, however the skys HAVE been overcast all week, the skies finally cleared up this afternoon allowing me to notice I think. This might be something to really pay attention to here.

Hi there, wheres your location? tnx


EDIT: I mean which part of the UK you are in.



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Last Edited by IWASTHERE on 12/20/2012 11:01 AM

UK: Desborough Weather Camera Here ----> [link to www.northantsweather.com]

still pretty bright and today its even overcast in that area

... however this place is near Northampton, 20 dic 2012 -> Sunrise is @ 8.10 Sunset is @ 15.52



EDIT: you can check sunrise/sunset timing here ---> [link to www.timeanddate.com]


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Last Edited by IWASTHERE on 12/20/2012 11:49 AM

Normally I just read post here. I came across this thread yesterday and found it very interesting because I had noticed the same thing happening. At a time when the daylight should be less until the winter solstice, I noticed last week it seemed the daylight was getting longer, if only by a couple of minutes but it was. So I paid attention last night. The sun set about 15 minutes later than what it should have AND the civil twilight lasted until 6:15 pm. Here is when it should have ended.

U.S. Naval Observatory
Astronomical Applications Department

Sun and Moon Data for One Day

The following information is provided for Atlanta, Georgia (longitude W84.4, latitude N33.8):

Wednesday
19 December 2012 Eastern Standard Time

SUN
Begin civil twilight 7:10 a.m.
Sunrise 7:38 a.m.
Sun transit 12:35 p.m.
Sunset 5:32 p.m.
End civil twilight 6:00 p.m.

The last of the sun dropped below the horizon at approx 5:47 pm.

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New pic of the sun today. Same spot as yesterday.

Actually looks larger and more intense than yesterday.


[link to www.flickr.com]


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Last Edited by Da fuq on 12/20/2012 12:25 PM

Good song, What do you think of new pic?

You are simply a liar: At 5:30 it was dark as hell over Germany: [link to www.wetteronline.de]

Oh, I see: Douchebag mistook the light polution of the city, reflected at the cloads, for twilight.


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Get a decent camera.


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Like a duck on a junebug..

Not many people realise that.
LP in towns and cities is horrendous these days - It never gets fully dark in-town, and most people don't even notice.

It's very sad that the majority of people these days have never seen it PROPERLY full-dark outside at night


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I am in the UK....Yorkshire, Hull.

Sun is SUPER bright now that the clouds are clearing out. Bit early to tell but it looks like it is pretty high up to be on time to set at the correct time (Missouri here) will wait and see.

Okay Sun is now out of sight. BUT it is very light out. This am I was out by 630 am to take care of my livestock and although it was thick cloud cover it was pretty light this compared with about a week ago when it was to dark to really see good enough to do anything at the same time. Perhaps it is the EXTREME BRightness of the Sun that is causing this noted difference.

People keep going on about clouds but the sunset was in fact late here and the twilight lasted longer than it should have and there was not a single effing cloud in site here. So that theory just doesn't stand in my opnion.

That's my best guess too haha

I was looking through them those people just look vile and uneducated. People who result to insults in a debate have already lost the battle in my opinion.

515 pm and it is still ligt out. Can still make out most everything from my window. watertank, car, hook in yard for birdseed....just can easily see everything. I am most certain this was not the case a number of days back.....again just obsevring and telling ya what I see.

"the civil twilight lasted until 6:15 pm." Sorry? You determined that, how?

If you don't believe us don't you have anything better to do with your time? Not trying to be rude just seems kinda pointless.

At 530 it was "almost" dark on side of sky where sun had set there was still some light. So I personally feel there is something "not right"

That's how it was here too. The sun should have set at 4:47 here but its still bright like its 10am and its 5pm.