The Sun Was Supposed To Set At 4:41 Central Time In Missouri, 12/18 , Still Hasn't Set At 5:01 | |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 30218778 United States 12/22/2012 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sun was supposed to set at 4:43. It's 5:09 and it hasn't set yet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30218778 Also, I agree with everyone that the sun is looking a lot brighter lately. White hot and hard to look at. If Nibiru was out today, I couldn't see it because I could barely look at the sun. check out this map --> [link to static.die.net] Cool. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 30218778 United States 12/22/2012 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok I left and quit participating because I thought I was the problem for debating with meow or whatever his name is and things seriously got 100 times worse to where this is a circus. Everyone is engaging the shills and you guys are all flinging insults right and left. Quoting: _Obsidian_ This thread went way off topic along time ago. Anywho, Let's just wait and see what happens. That's the onlt way we will know for sure. Yes the last one shill comes from the cartoons as you can see. Don't feed them. - Ok I left and quit participating because I thought I was the problem for debating with meow or whatever his name is and things seriously got 100 times worse to where this is a circus. Everyone is engaging the shills and you guys are all flinging insults right and left. Quoting: _Obsidian_ This thread went way off topic along time ago. Anywho, Let's just wait and see what happens. That's the onlt way we will know for sure. Yes the last one shill comes from the cartoons as you can see. Don't feed them. - Are you saying I'm a shill or are you talking about Menow? No, Obsidian, you are not a shill. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 30218778 United States 12/22/2012 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Btw I wanted to mention earlier which was why I was here but I got distracted :-( that it was bright here about 6am but I looked and the sunrise was not till 6:50. It was also bright as in summer time level of brightness at 8am it burned my eyes and gave me a headache (not looking directly btw that I had no desire to go outisde. I missed the sunset I've been so stressed I didn't bother looking tbh. All this december 21st crap and all the arguing really drained me. But I do still think something is off. Just because a major calamity didn't happen. I think it's also worth mentioning someone posted a thread where they said if the last day of the mayan calender is the 21st wouldn't tomorrow be the actual end? Just food for thought. I'm not saying I believe but it made me give it some more thought. Naysayers please leave me alone for once btw lol This is mainly to discuss with the OP, Duc and Da Fuq or any other person NOT trying to fight. Quoting: _Obsidian_ I think there was a lot of atmospheric stuff going on yesterday. I'm starting to feel a little stressed right now and am feeling drained too. Anyway, thanks for your good attitude Obsidian. I apologize for 'falling' and not taking my own advice. Its so easy to do with these guys. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29074728 United States 12/22/2012 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | central illinois this morning i saw 8 chemtrailers all flying in parallel lines all viewable at the same time. within 45 minutes, it went from clear to full. i did see one contrail to compare it with. its trail evaporated about 5-700 yards behind. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29074728 oh yeah, the reason i bring this up is because i something i recently heard is that ionospheric heating can cause a lensing effect in one area and not another. that is why things seem hinkey in one part of the country but not in another. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29074728 United States 12/22/2012 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | central illinois this morning i saw 8 chemtrailers all flying in parallel lines all viewable at the same time. within 45 minutes, it went from clear to full. i did see one contrail to compare it with. its trail evaporated about 5-700 yards behind. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29074728 oh yeah, the reason i bring this up is because i something i recently heard is that ionospheric heating can cause a lensing effect in one area and not another. that is why things seem hinkey in one part of the country but not in another. oh yeah, i think chemtrails and haarp are related. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29074728 United States 12/22/2012 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | central illinois this morning i saw 8 chemtrailers all flying in parallel lines all viewable at the same time. within 45 minutes, it went from clear to full. i did see one contrail to compare it with. its trail evaporated about 5-700 yards behind. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29074728 oh yeah, the reason i bring this up is because i read something i recently heard is that ionospheric heating can cause a lensing effect in one area and not another. that is why things seem hinkey in one part of the country but not in another. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29074728 United States 12/22/2012 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last shill is pretty obvious covering the useless astrodog ass with useless stuff & blablabla as well. Quoting: DUCM900 :lick: - Yeah. I agree. if you are referring to me, i assure you i am no shill, i am stating an observation and a viewpoint-nothing more. you would be better served if you open yourself up to different ideas that may be contrary to what you are comfortable believing. |
DUCM900 User ID: 30632962 Italy 12/22/2012 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if you are referring to me, i assure you i am no shill, i am stating an observation and a viewpoint-nothing more. you would be better served if you open yourself up to different ideas that may be contrary to what you are comfortable believing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29074728 No, It does not seems till now (btw- need to read some past posts about you), however Aren't you a shill? Are you really a scientist? If yes, scientist of what? tell us please. - Last Edited by IWASTHERE on 12/22/2012 10:09 AM |
WatcherJ User ID: 30485981 United States 12/22/2012 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Normally I just read post here. I came across this thread yesterday and found it very interesting because I had noticed the same thing happening. At a time when the daylight should be less until the winter solstice, I noticed last week it seemed the daylight was getting longer, if only by a couple of minutes but it was. So I paid attention last night. The sun set about 15 minutes later than what it should have AND the civil twilight lasted until 6:15 pm. Here is when it should have ended. Quoting: WatcherJ U.S. Naval Observatory Astronomical Applications Department Sun and Moon Data for One Day The following information is provided for Atlanta, Georgia (longitude W84.4, latitude N33.8): Wednesday 19 December 2012 Eastern Standard Time SUN Begin civil twilight 7:10 a.m. Sunrise 7:38 a.m. Sun transit 12:35 p.m. Sunset 5:32 p.m. End civil twilight 6:00 p.m. The last of the sun dropped below the horizon at approx 5:47 pm. "the civil twilight lasted until 6:15 pm." Sorry? You determined that, how? Uh, simple...do you even know the meaning of civil twilight you dweeb? if not then let me s'plain: Civil twilight is defined to begin in the morning, and to end in the evening when the center of the Sun is geometrically 6 degrees below the horizon. This is the limit at which twilight illumination is sufficient, under good weather conditions, for terrestrial objects to be clearly distinguished; at the beginning of morning civil twilight, or end of evening civil twilight, the horizon is clearly defined and the brightest stars are visible under good atmospheric conditions in the absence of moonlight or other illumination. In the morning before the beginning of civil twilight and in the evening after the end of civil twilight, artificial illumination is normally required to carry on ordinary outdoor activities. And before you even say it, no, it was not the moon "illuminating" the sky. The sky was still light from the sun setting. |
_Obsidian_ User ID: 30619237 United States 12/22/2012 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Btw I wanted to mention earlier which was why I was here but I got distracted :-( that it was bright here about 6am but I looked and the sunrise was not till 6:50. It was also bright as in summer time level of brightness at 8am it burned my eyes and gave me a headache (not looking directly btw that I had no desire to go outisde. I missed the sunset I've been so stressed I didn't bother looking tbh. All this december 21st crap and all the arguing really drained me. But I do still think something is off. Just because a major calamity didn't happen. I think it's also worth mentioning someone posted a thread where they said if the last day of the mayan calender is the 21st wouldn't tomorrow be the actual end? Just food for thought. I'm not saying I believe but it made me give it some more thought. Naysayers please leave me alone for once btw lol This is mainly to discuss with the OP, Duc and Da Fuq or any other person NOT trying to fight. Quoting: _Obsidian_ I think there was a lot of atmospheric stuff going on yesterday. I'm starting to feel a little stressed right now and am feeling drained too. Anyway, thanks for your good attitude Obsidian. I apologize for 'falling' and not taking my own advice. Its so easy to do with these guys. I apologize to you and Duc for being a pos yesterday! Man I didn't feel like myself I was a confused emotional wreck I hadn't really slept and the stress just did me in and I felt like everyone was out to get me. I'm better off today but still drained and kinda foggy feeling it's weird. Everything's just felt off lately I don't like it. I'm glad you guys didn't rip me a new one when I had my emotional outburst so to speak. I did feel pretty embarrassed...still do. "Only one candle left to burn now, before the darkness comes" "Happiness consumes itself like a flame. It cannot burn for ever, it must go out, and the presentiment of its end destroys it at its very peak." "But what is Hope? Nothing but the paint on the face of Existence; the least touch of truth rubs it off, and then we see what a hollow-cheeked harlot we have got hold of" |
IwasKidding User ID: 27554728 United States 12/22/2012 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes I was just mentioning this..it has been "off" but now it is WAY off...It seems like it crosses the sky "off to the side" a bit...I actually took out my compass and as it was getting close to sunset took a pic of the compass as well as the sun (as it was a little late setting) It comes up WAY off the norm lately, and yes as I mentioned in my own thread the almanac said sunrise 7:05 it came over the horizon at about 7:28ish, yet there was a GREAT deal of light to see by that was even earlier than normal... |
IwasKidding User ID: 27554728 United States 12/22/2012 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I also will ignore the shills, I do not mind if there is input but being bullied and made as though I am nuts I will ignore. I also know very good an well how very light/dark it is this time of year at any given time. This is the thing one who goes outside and does chores, cares for the animals KNOWS it is not taking out a contraption and twisting nobs or looking at something on the internet, this is day in day out living in the country observation. From about one week ago I would say there has occured a SIGNIFIGANT Change that in the past couple days has grown pronounced. Not so much talking about twilight or the light that proceeds the sunset because THAT is MUCH more, the light comes EARLY prior to sunrise (than usual) it is REMAINING a good while after sunset as well. No you do not have to believe me or take my word for it BUT I SWEAR I am NOT Lying in any way shape of form, I have no need to do so. I am Reporting to others what I Feel is Important....for whatever reason or the why it is happening I do not know, but I seriously do KNOW, without a doubt because it is that different! |
Menow User ID: 18943200 United States 12/22/2012 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Normally I just read post here. I came across this thread yesterday and found it very interesting because I had noticed the same thing happening. At a time when the daylight should be less until the winter solstice, I noticed last week it seemed the daylight was getting longer, if only by a couple of minutes but it was. So I paid attention last night. The sun set about 15 minutes later than what it should have AND the civil twilight lasted until 6:15 pm. Here is when it should have ended. Quoting: WatcherJ U.S. Naval Observatory Astronomical Applications Department Sun and Moon Data for One Day The following information is provided for Atlanta, Georgia (longitude W84.4, latitude N33.8): Wednesday 19 December 2012 Eastern Standard Time SUN Begin civil twilight 7:10 a.m. Sunrise 7:38 a.m. Sun transit 12:35 p.m. Sunset 5:32 p.m. End civil twilight 6:00 p.m. The last of the sun dropped below the horizon at approx 5:47 pm. "the civil twilight lasted until 6:15 pm." Sorry? You determined that, how? Uh, simple...do you even know the meaning of civil twilight you dweeb? So my simple, courteous question is met with an insult. How special. Yes, I know the meaning of civil twilight. I can't wait. Civil twilight is defined to begin in the morning, and to end in the evening when the center of the Sun is geometrically 6 degrees below the horizon. This is the limit at which twilight illumination is sufficient, under good weather conditions, for terrestrial objects to be clearly distinguished; at the beginning of morning civil twilight, or end of evening civil twilight, the horizon is clearly defined and the brightest stars are visible under good atmospheric conditions in the absence of moonlight or other illumination. In the morning before the beginning of civil twilight and in the evening after the end of civil twilight, artificial illumination is normally required to carry on ordinary outdoor activities. And before you even say it, no, it was not the moon "illuminating" the sky. The sky was still light from the sun setting. Quoting: WatcherJ I wasn't going to say anything about the moon and I didn't ask you for a definition of civil twilight. I asked you how you determined that, on that occasion, civil twilight lasted until 6:15 or 15 minutes longer than it should have. You have no answer? You also said this: "The sun set about 15 minutes later than what it should have". Have a photo showing that? No? Will you take one tonight which will demonstrate your claimed late sunset? |
Menow User ID: 18943200 United States 12/22/2012 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seriously people, it's futile to argue or debate with the shills because they are intellectually dishonest, amongst other things. A discussion with them always degrades into a mud slinging contest. Their stance from the start usually betrays their intentions and they are trained to throw folks off. Just let them talk to each other and the wind. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30218778 Thanks. It will be good for us and for lurkers who visit this thread. (yeah, I didn't take my own prescription. My bad.) So, asking for solid evidence of wild claims that the sun is setting too late is "throwing folks off". I see... |
Menow User ID: 18943200 United States 12/22/2012 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Btw I wanted to mention earlier which was why I was here but I got distracted :-( that it was bright here about 6am but I looked and the sunrise was not till 6:50. It was also bright as in summer time level of brightness at 8am it burned my eyes and gave me a headache (not looking directly btw that I had no desire to go outisde. I missed the sunset I've been so stressed I didn't bother looking tbh. All this december 21st crap and all the arguing really drained me. But I do still think something is off. Just because a major calamity didn't happen. I think it's also worth mentioning someone posted a thread where they said if the last day of the mayan calender is the 21st wouldn't tomorrow be the actual end? Just food for thought. I'm not saying I believe but it made me give it some more thought. Naysayers please leave me alone for once btw lol This is mainly to discuss with the OP, Duc and Da Fuq or any other person NOT trying to fight. Quoting: _Obsidian_ I think there was a lot of atmospheric stuff going on yesterday. I'm starting to feel a little stressed right now and am feeling drained too. Anyway, thanks for your good attitude Obsidian. I apologize for 'falling' and not taking my own advice. Its so easy to do with these guys. I apologize to you and Duc for being a pos yesterday! Man I didn't feel like myself I was a confused emotional wreck I hadn't really slept and the stress just did me in and I felt like everyone was out to get me. I'm better off today but still drained and kinda foggy feeling it's weird. Everything's just felt off lately I don't like it. I'm glad you guys didn't rip me a new one when I had my emotional outburst so to speak. I did feel pretty embarrassed...still do. It's really not a problem unless you let it get in the way of further discussion of the facts. That means solid evidence, by the way, not vague, sensational anecdotes from anonymous posters. |
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Menow User ID: 18943200 United States 12/22/2012 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes I was just mentioning this..it has been "off" but now it is WAY off...It seems like it crosses the sky "off to the side" a bit...I actually took out my compass and as it was getting close to sunset took a pic of the compass as well as the sun (as it was a little late setting) It comes up WAY off the norm lately, and yes as I mentioned in my own thread the almanac said sunrise 7:05 it came over the horizon at about 7:28ish, yet there was a GREAT deal of light to see by that was even earlier than normal... So where is your picture? You can take a picture of a compass and the sun, but not a timepiece and the sun, showing that sunrise is 20 minutes late? Do you know what your local compass deviation is? |
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DUCM900 User ID: 30632962 Italy 12/22/2012 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damn. A guy observes the sun rising farther in the north, during winter no less! That's very odd because the planet isn't even tilted. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29759427 A truly unusual phenomenon! Shill or Troll? (or uneducated) SO I ask you: how many degrees the Sun can rise from the East to the North in winter season? Tell us the max in degrees. - Last Edited by IWASTHERE on 12/22/2012 11:40 AM |
Menow User ID: 18943200 United States 12/22/2012 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damn. A guy observes the sun rising farther in the north, during winter no less! That's very odd because the planet isn't even tilted. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29759427 A truly unusual phenomenon! Shill or Troll? (or uneducated) SO I ask you: how many degrees the Sun can rise from the East to the North in winter season? Tell us the max in degrees. - Actually, that poster has it backward- it's to the south in winter and you have been told countless times that the number of degrees depends on your latitude. |
DUCM900 User ID: 30632962 Italy 12/22/2012 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damn. A guy observes the sun rising farther in the north, during winter no less! That's very odd because the planet isn't even tilted. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29759427 A truly unusual phenomenon! Shill or Troll? (or uneducated) SO I ask you: how many degrees the Sun can rise from the East ---> to the North in winter season? Tell us the max in degrees. - North = 0 Degree SO? How many degrees ? no answer yet? - Last Edited by IWASTHERE on 12/22/2012 12:38 PM |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 30218778 United States 12/22/2012 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | central illinois this morning i saw 8 chemtrailers all flying in parallel lines all viewable at the same time. within 45 minutes, it went from clear to full. i did see one contrail to compare it with. its trail evaporated about 5-700 yards behind. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29074728 oh yeah, the reason i bring this up is because i something i recently heard is that ionospheric heating can cause a lensing effect in one area and not another. that is why things seem hinkey in one part of the country but not in another. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 30218778 United States 12/22/2012 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last shill is pretty obvious covering the useless astrodog ass with useless stuff & blablabla as well. Quoting: DUCM900 :lick: - Yeah. I agree. if you are referring to me, i assure you i am no shill, i am stating an observation and a viewpoint-nothing more. you would be better served if you open yourself up to different ideas that may be contrary to what you are comfortable believing. I think DUK was referring to the guy who started throwing scientific sounding numbers around. |