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Message Subject The events in Revelations have already happened
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 Quoting: K.Kool


and your point
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rex
 Quoting: paul 30595161




As far as I can make out,
not being a prophet, or a visionary, or an illuminated one

the visions in Revelation refer to times close to the time of John writing them, he is warning his people of Caesar worship, and comforting them about the ultimate victory of Christ.
Much of the symbology refers to events of the time, like the abomination and the mark of the beast,
but the final judgement and the second coming of Christ
are still to come, and they are foreshadowed in the book as well.
 Quoting: K.Kool


cool so u think the book of Revelation is talkin about times gone by,tut tut where do i start :) Matthew chapter24 talks of signs to the end,do u not no0tice it tally`s with The Book Of Revelation,let me show u
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Matthew24,v3-4 = 3 Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?” = Revelation19:v11 =
Christ on a White Horse

11 Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war. 12 His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns. He had a name written that no one knew except Himself. 13 He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean,followed Him on white horses. 15 Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written:

KING OF KINGS AND
LORD OF LORDS.
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Matthew24:v9 = 9 “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. 10 And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. = Revelation 20:v4-6 = The Saints Reign with Christ 1,000 Years

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgement was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshipped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
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Matthew24:v15 = 15 “Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand) =
Revelation13:15-17 = 15 He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. 16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
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Matthew24:v21-22 = 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened. = Revelation16:v1-21 = 16 Then I heard a loud voice from the temple saying to the seven angels, “Go and pour out the bowls[a] of the wrath of God on the earth.”

First Bowl: Loathsome Sores

2 So the first went and poured out his bowl upon the earth, and a foul and loathsome sore came upon the men who had the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image.

Second Bowl: The Sea Turns to Blood

3 Then the second angel poured out his bowl on the sea, and it became blood as of a dead man; and every living creature in the sea died.

Third Bowl: The Waters Turn to Blood

4 Then the third angel poured out his bowl on the rivers and springs of water, and they became blood. 5 And I heard the angel of the waters saying:

“You are righteous, O Lord,
The One who is and who was and who is to be,
Because You have judged these things.
6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets,
And You have given them blood to drink.
For it is their just due.”
7 And I heard another from the altar saying, “Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are Your judgements.”

Fourth Bowl: Men Are Scorched

8 Then the fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and power was given to him to scorch men with fire. 9 And men were scorched with great heat, and they blasphemed the name of God who has power over these plagues; and they did not repent and give Him glory.

Fifth Bowl: Darkness and Pain

10 Then the fifth angel poured out his bowl on the throne of the beast, and his kingdom became full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues because of the pain. 11 They blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and did not repent of their deeds.

Sixth Bowl: Euphrates Dried Up

12 Then the sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, so that the way of the kings from the east might be prepared. 13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and[f] of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

15 “Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame.”

16 And they gathered them together to the place called in Hebrew, Armageddon.

Seventh Bowl: The Earth Utterly Shaken

17 Then the seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, “It is done!” 18 And there were noises and thunderings and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such a mighty and great earthquake as had not occurred since men were on the earth. 19 Now the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. And great Babylon was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of His wrath. 20 Then every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. 21 And great hail from heaven fell upon men, each hailstone about the weight of a talent. Men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail, since that plague was exceedingly great.
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putin
 Quoting: paul 30629176


You have been deceived by the Roman Whore. Matthew 24 refers to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD by Roman armies led by prince Titus. You need to read the parallel passages in Mark and Luke. The Abomination that causes desolation is not some future anti-Christ, it's is the Roman army surrounding the city in siege. Read Josephus for the account of the miraculous signs leading up to the siege. Cattle gave birth to lambs, the temple doors flung open, a "sword" star appeared above Jerusalem weeks before it happened and stayed there until it did, armies were heard and seen by the inhabitants of Jerusalem "fighting" in the sky, and numerous other miracles.
Jesus returned during THAT generation to exact judgement on the wicked and untoward people that killed the Son. Jesus entered the temple and cast out the money changers exclaiming they had turned HIS FATHERS HOUSE into a den of thieves, then right before his death proclaims YOUR HOUSE is left DESOLATE. God left that self righteous religion and returned exactly 40 years later to wipe it out for good, just like he promised to do. The temple will never be rebuilt because believers are the temple of God-those that worship him in spirit and in truth.
When Jesus was on the cross he asked God to forgive them, so God withheld his wrath for ONE generation (40 years to the day) then destroyed Jerusalem on the Passover in 70AD. Our God is amazing and exceedingly righteous. He can, does and will judge his creation with perfect judgement. He is coming back ONCE more to judge the quick and the dead, no rapture, no 7 years, ONE return to set all things right. Rome wants you to believe futurism because 1.it takes the 70th week of Daniel from the LORD Jesus Christ and gives it to some fabricated person in the future and 2. It makes it really hard to see that the Roman Catholic church is the Beast, the Harlot, the mother of abomination and the son of perdition. There is a book called "the great prophecies of the Bible" by Ralph Woodrow, please read it. I used to be deceived as well, but God will open your eyes if you allow him to.
Godbless!
 
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