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Life's-A-Bitch User ID: 1243271 United States 12/18/2012 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they will take it anyway they can get it. The Congressmen have a lifetime to destroy America Just because YOU don’t believe in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No ! The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it. "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short! A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2 For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller Checkd, Keked, and Rekt! #Kids2 |
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Dr. Lecter User ID: 24275310 United States 12/18/2012 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it mean that the law will immediately criminalize the sale, transfer, manufacture, or possession once passed. so if you get pulled over with an AK in the back seat... you're going to jail. "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 8397139 United States 12/18/2012 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it mean that the law will immediately criminalize the sale, transfer, manufacture, or possession once passed. Quoting: Dr. Lecter so if you get pulled over with an AK in the back seat... you're going to jail. Ahhh... so it IS retroactive. That may not go over so well in the U.S. Interesting times ahead. Let's hope it gets voted down. |
Dr. Lecter User ID: 24275310 United States 12/18/2012 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they will take it anyway they can get it. The Congressmen have a lifetime to destroy America Quoting: Life's-A-Bitch I'm confused by the 'leagl-speak' of her wording. Does she mean that an assault weapon ban is retroactive? IE owners of them must turn them in? "i guess we'll just have to pass it and see what's in it... away from the fog..." (doing my nancy pelois impression) "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
Dr. Lecter User ID: 24275310 United States 12/18/2012 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it mean that the law will immediately criminalize the sale, transfer, manufacture, or possession once passed. Quoting: Dr. Lecter so if you get pulled over with an AK in the back seat... you're going to jail. Ahhh... so it IS retroactive. That may not go over so well in the U.S. Interesting times ahead. Let's hope it gets voted down. if the house doesn't approve it, obama will end run congress on it, most likely with his 6,837th executive order. THIS, according to the constitution, is why we need to need to stay armed in the first place. "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
Dr. Lecter User ID: 24275310 United States 12/18/2012 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it mean that the law will immediately criminalize the sale, transfer, manufacture, or possession once passed. Quoting: Dr. Lecter so if you get pulled over with an AK in the back seat... you're going to jail. Ahhh... so it IS retroactive. That may not go over so well in the U.S. Interesting times ahead. Let's hope it gets voted down. just the possession part... i believe. "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
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Dr. Lecter User ID: 24275310 United States 12/18/2012 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think most 'Merkans will like the "ban possession of" part. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139 It's basically a "turn 'em in." We'll see I guess. i'm thinking there will be a grace peroid. say you have 60 days to relinquish your weapon(s). after that... you're going to jail, or fema camp. "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 8397139 United States 12/18/2012 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think most 'Merkans will like the "ban possession of" part. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139 It's basically a "turn 'em in." We'll see I guess. i'm thinking there will be a grace peroid. say you have 60 days to relinquish your weapon(s). after that... you're going to jail, or fema camp. Agreed... they'll probably be a grace period. Still, I think a retroactive ban will piss people off. I'm still not convinced they'll have much luck with it. But like you say if Obama EO's it... |
Dr. Lecter User ID: 24275310 United States 12/18/2012 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think most 'Merkans will like the "ban possession of" part. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139 It's basically a "turn 'em in." We'll see I guess. i'm thinking there will be a grace peroid. say you have 60 days to relinquish your weapon(s). after that... you're going to jail, or fema camp. Agreed... they'll probably be a grace period. Still, I think a retroactive ban will piss people off. I'm still not convinced they'll have much luck with it. But like you say if Obama EO's it... being they have just purchased 1.25 billion rounds, i don't think they care who they piss off. i believe this has all been planned... for a long time. "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
Mwalk Low Earth Orbit User ID: 1067150 United States 12/18/2012 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they will take it anyway they can get it. The Congressmen have a lifetime to destroy America Quoting: Life's-A-Bitch Yeah, anybody starts talking term limits and all of a sudden that person gets blackballed and you no longer here of the idea they put out(which is a great idea). “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27262086 United States 12/18/2012 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I assure you wont fly here in texas because perry wont give them up and neither will we pry it from our dead bodies it will be and that will be the case for all texans so gun owners read perrys website he is encouraging thteachers to buy guns he also believes strongly in our freedoms suggedt yall pack up for texas or give em up |
ru1im2 User ID: 30273039 Mongolia 12/18/2012 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I assure you wont fly here in texas because perry wont give them up and neither will we pry it from our dead bodies it will be and that will be the case for all texans so gun owners read perrys website he is encouraging thteachers to buy guns he also believes strongly in our freedoms suggedt yall pack up for texas or give em up Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27262086 Rick Rerry=> |
SilverPatriot User ID: 10518597 United States 12/18/2012 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look at the communist scum obama surrounds himself with such as criminal Bill Ayers, Frank Marshall Davis, Timothy Geithner, Van Jones, John Holdren, Cass Sunstein, Mark Lloyd, Carol Browner, Buffy Wicks, Andy Stern, Kevin Jennings, Jeff Jones, Carol Browner, Jon Bon Jovi, Sam Kass, Donald Berwick and let us not forget scum such as Reverend Wright. There is not one who surrounds and guides obama that is a patriot, who respects our constitution. Review John Holdren who wrote books concerning forced abortions and Cass Sunstein who wants to eliminate free speech, Carol Browner who strives for global governance, Carol Browner UN Cap and Trade queen please look up these communist, socialist filth that have no regard for human life. Obama Czars [link to james-a-watkins.hubpages.com] Commie Blaster [link to www.commieblaster.com] Obama’s Latest Appointee CZAR, Jon Bon Jovi … America Really is Living on a Prayer [link to scaredmonkeys.com] Sam Kass [link to www.eagleforum.org] Meet John Brennan, Obama’s Assassination Czar [link to pjmedia.com] A List of President Barack Obama's Czars [link to usconservatives.about.com] A List of Obama Czars (in alphabetical order) [link to www.nachumlist.com] |
Copperhead User ID: 24964643 United States 12/18/2012 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does she mean the ban (if it passes) will be retroactive? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139 Or does it mean that you can't buy new ones? Confused a bit here. Can anyone clarify? Thanks It's just the old ban repackaged, with no future sales and what you have grandfathered. prospective adjective abeyant, about to be, approaching, arranged, awaited, close at hand, coming, conceivable, considered, destined, earmarked, eventual, expectant, expected, foreseen, forthcoming, future, hoped for, imaginable, immediate, impending, in prospect, in store, in view, intended, likely, looked for, looming, on the horizon, planned, potential, preparing, projected, promised, scheduled, soon to be, soon to happen, subsequent, to be, to come, ultimate, upcoming Associated concepts: prospective contract, prospective liaailities, prospective relief, prospective rights Foreign phrases: Nova constitutio futuris formam immonere debet non praeteritis.A new law ought to affect the future, not what is past. Lex prospicit, non respicit. The law looks forward, not backward. |
ru1im2 User ID: 30273039 Mongolia 12/18/2012 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does she mean the ban (if it passes) will be retroactive? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139 Or does it mean that you can't buy new ones? Confused a bit here. Can anyone clarify? Thanks It's just the old ban repackaged, with no future sales and what you have grandfathered. prospective adjective abeyant, about to be, approaching, arranged, awaited, close at hand, coming, conceivable, considered, destined, earmarked, eventual, expectant, expected, foreseen, forthcoming, future, hoped for, imaginable, immediate, impending, in prospect, in store, in view, intended, likely, looked for, looming, on the horizon, planned, potential, preparing, projected, promised, scheduled, soon to be, soon to happen, subsequent, to be, to come, ultimate, upcoming Associated concepts: prospective contract, prospective liaailities, prospective relief, prospective rights Foreign phrases: Nova constitutio futuris formam immonere debet non praeteritis.A new law ought to affect the future, not what is past. Lex prospicit, non respicit. The law looks forward, not backward. Hmmmmm.... More US economy to disappear soon. |
Dr. Lecter User ID: 24275310 United States 12/18/2012 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does she mean the ban (if it passes) will be retroactive? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139 Or does it mean that you can't buy new ones? Confused a bit here. Can anyone clarify? Thanks It's just the old ban repackaged, with no future sales and what you have grandfathered. prospective adjective abeyant, about to be, approaching, arranged, awaited, close at hand, coming, conceivable, considered, destined, earmarked, eventual, expectant, expected, foreseen, forthcoming, future, hoped for, imaginable, immediate, impending, in prospect, in store, in view, intended, likely, looked for, looming, on the horizon, planned, potential, preparing, projected, promised, scheduled, soon to be, soon to happen, subsequent, to be, to come, ultimate, upcoming Associated concepts: prospective contract, prospective liaailities, prospective relief, prospective rights Foreign phrases: Nova constitutio futuris formam immonere debet non praeteritis.A new law ought to affect the future, not what is past. Lex prospicit, non respicit. The law looks forward, not backward. wrong on the grandfathering part. she specifically stated "possession". "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 8397139 United States 12/18/2012 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does she mean the ban (if it passes) will be retroactive? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139 Or does it mean that you can't buy new ones? Confused a bit here. Can anyone clarify? Thanks It's just the old ban repackaged, with no future sales and what you have grandfathered. prospective adjective abeyant, about to be, approaching, arranged, awaited, close at hand, coming, conceivable, considered, destined, earmarked, eventual, expectant, expected, foreseen, forthcoming, future, hoped for, imaginable, immediate, impending, in prospect, in store, in view, intended, likely, looked for, looming, on the horizon, planned, potential, preparing, projected, promised, scheduled, soon to be, soon to happen, subsequent, to be, to come, ultimate, upcoming Associated concepts: prospective contract, prospective liaailities, prospective relief, prospective rights Foreign phrases: Nova constitutio futuris formam immonere debet non praeteritis.A new law ought to affect the future, not what is past. Lex prospicit, non respicit. The law looks forward, not backward. wrong on the grandfathering part. she specifically stated "possession". This is what's keeping me confused. She said "not retroactively, but prospectively." Kind of sounds like an outright possession ban, but I'm no attorney so I don't know. |
Dr. Lecter User ID: 24275310 United States 12/18/2012 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does she mean the ban (if it passes) will be retroactive? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139 Or does it mean that you can't buy new ones? Confused a bit here. Can anyone clarify? Thanks It's just the old ban repackaged, with no future sales and what you have grandfathered. prospective adjective abeyant, about to be, approaching, arranged, awaited, close at hand, coming, conceivable, considered, destined, earmarked, eventual, expectant, expected, foreseen, forthcoming, future, hoped for, imaginable, immediate, impending, in prospect, in store, in view, intended, likely, looked for, looming, on the horizon, planned, potential, preparing, projected, promised, scheduled, soon to be, soon to happen, subsequent, to be, to come, ultimate, upcoming Associated concepts: prospective contract, prospective liaailities, prospective relief, prospective rights Foreign phrases: Nova constitutio futuris formam immonere debet non praeteritis.A new law ought to affect the future, not what is past. Lex prospicit, non respicit. The law looks forward, not backward. wrong on the grandfathering part. she specifically stated "possession". This is what's keeping me confused. She said "not retroactively, but prospectively." Kind of sounds like an outright possession ban, but I'm no attorney so I don't know. i'm not a lawyer either, but i do know that "possession" means "possession", and she said "possession". "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
J Barber User ID: 30475688 United States 12/20/2012 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I saw an interview she did recently and the way she was explaining It (very vaguely I might add) made it sound like they would have to be registered as an "assault weapon" and/or a trigger lock of some sort would have to be installed. She said with this ban "assault weapons" would eventually be weeded out of city and towns. So I'm not sure about the possession statement. One minute she says Ben possession, the next she says register and trigger lock. I too am confused. |