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Calling all Liberals and Democrats - Save the Children

 
Woot Woot

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12/18/2012 11:23 PM

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Calling all Liberals and Democrats - Save the Children
What happened at Sandy Hook was wrong, immoral, illegal, etc.

Lanza had no right to end the lives of those beautiful children.
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12/18/2012 11:25 PM

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What Lanza did was against Federal law, State law ... hell it was even against UN law, if you care to take it that far.
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12/18/2012 11:30 PM

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Every one of those kids had a right to a full and complete life, just as surely as does every person, whose eyeballs happen to be reading these words.

This right is guaranteed in the Constitution of the United States of America.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this right is inalienable, and in my personal opinion God given. Others might argue the latter point, but nonetheless, a right. On this we can agree.

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12/18/2012 11:33 PM

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Save the children and arm the teachers ASAP!
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Every one of those kids had a right to a full and complete life, just as surely as does every person, whose eyeballs happen to be reading these words.

This right is guaranteed in the Constitution of the United States of America.
 Quoting: Woot Woot


enjoy trolling much?

what software are you using to shill using a Canadian flag?
Woot Woot (OP)

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12/18/2012 11:36 PM

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Save the children and arm the teachers ASAP!
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Chip ... I'm getting there. Hold off while I build in some more underpinnings of logic. You may or may not like where I end up.
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12/18/2012 11:44 PM

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Re: Calling all Liberals and Democrats - Save the Children
The state, Federal or pick a State, or municipality should do everything in its power to protect the children.

In order to do so, the state might impinge on my right to have a howitzer or tank, say, which I might want to have to ultimately protect my property, my family and myself.

That's a debate that can be had, and for the most part, hghly unlikely its outcome meted out in government policy such as restricting the type of weaponI might buy, or how many rounds I can have in a legal magazine, or how long I might have to wait to buy a legal firearm.

All rational, and all in the name of the children.

Who can argue with that?
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12/18/2012 11:46 PM

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Mainly Liberals and Democrats, that's who.

(We'll set aside the NRA nutjobs for the moment)
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12/18/2012 11:53 PM

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I think the current numbers on the fatalities for Sandy Hook are 20 children, 6 adult educators, the parent, and the deranged soul who just wasn't right.

Well, as terrible as these numbers are, they pale in comparison to the abortion figures.

I would guess the number of children's lives prematurely terminated to be a hundred, maybe five hundred, maybe even a thousand times the death toll of Sandy Hook

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got it,


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12/18/2012 11:59 PM

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Re: Calling all Liberals and Democrats - Save the Children
Let us examine who cares about these children ... certainly Christians, and people of faith generally.

Which political party cares about the unborn ... easy enough, it's the Republicans. As best I can tell from my northern perch the Republicans care about ALL of them.

Not just the rich, not just the Caucasian, not just the smart, not just the fit or nondeformed ... every last one of them.

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Re: Calling all Liberals and Democrats - Save the Children
And where do the Democrats and Liberals stand on this?

... antiseptic word games like "woman's right to choose", "between a woman and her doctor", "it's my body and therefore my choice"

oh and there was that mumbo-jumbo Supreme court decision Roe v. Wade

and factual, nevermind moral reporting, debate and argument by the lamestream news media (that's you CNN, NBC ABC, CBS) ... NADA, zip, nothing.

Get's a passing mention during Presidential election cycles but generally they're more concerned with such important issues as the Sandra Flukes of the world who depend on the state for her $9.99 per mo. contraception allthewhile spending 6+ years in university, at $30+ grand per year.

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12/19/2012 12:14 AM

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One can rationally debate what to do in situations such as incest, rape, emotional and physical health of mother.

That could land on either side of the line, and if abortions were restricted back to these, the world would be a better place imo.

Even allowing for non-moral circumstances ... morning after pill what have you,

but the reality of unfettered access to mid and late term abortions (I'm not a medical person so someone jump in and help me out)

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Re: Calling all Liberals and Democrats - Save the Children
partially birthing a viable child so that the head is outside the mother's body, opening the skull cavity, and vacuuming the child's brain out.

or this one

if by some miracle of God the child survives an attempted abortion, being left in a stainless steel pan to die of malnourishment or dehydration by so called medical professionals, denying the essentials of life

and what jurist and legislative giants of our time voted time and again for such horrors ...

President "small ball" for one.

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Oh but of course remain prochoice ! Kill the most innocent ! Because they cant scream submersed , thats OK . Liberals are going to continue to kill children till they get their gun control, then they will start to kill everyone else! granny
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In any other situation or circumstance, this would be called genocide.

And it is, against minorities and the poor, who are actively encouraged to terminate the lives of the unborn.

Democrats, liberals and such call this "progress" of western civilization. Seems like nihilism to me, and don't think for on second that radical Islam isn't patiently watching and waiting, but that's a whole different deal I don't care to get into.
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Oh but of course remain prochoice ! Kill the most innocent ! Because they cant scream submersed , thats OK . Liberals are going to continue to kill children till they get their gun control, then they will start to kill everyone else! granny
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I'm with you AC, to a point!

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In summation, every individual is important, and this Sandy Hook event was a tragedy.

What I've tried to do is objectively state facts to show that professors of "welfare of the children" are talking through their hats if they willfully deny the atrocity which is abortion.

So what to do about it?

Wouldn't it be nice if reasonable and rationale people on the left and right side of the aisle got together and negotiated a deal to the benefit of the children? Both sides got plenty they can reasonably give on, in order to get.

or maybe the elected legislators are neither reasonable, nor rationale, and western civilization is doomed, in which case cue the bread loaves and circuses. Wait, sounds like Washington, no?
Woot Woot (OP)

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12/19/2012 01:27 AM

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I see 4 persons offered a "drive-by" one star, but neglected to either offer new ideas or debate the merits of argument or faults of conclusion
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Oh but of course remain prochoice ! Kill the most innocent ! Because they cant scream submersed , thats OK . Liberals are going to continue to kill children till they get their gun control, then they will start to kill everyone else! granny
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Woot Woot (OP)

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Re: Calling all Liberals and Democrats - Save the Children
bump for further discussion. Not interested in any lame brain unsubstantiated rants which we've all hear a thousand times before.

Let's leave such low level discourse to President "small ball" and his gang of butt kissers
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12/20/2012 06:07 PM

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Any liberals, progressives, or Demonrats care to pull your head out of your asses and try to defend the Obamanation that is abortion?
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heywood jablome
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?? Your remark is lost on me?
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heywood jablome
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?? Your remark is lost on me?
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Translation = Hey-would-ya-blow-me.

Glad I could help.

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Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. ~Arthur C. Clarke

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OP, do you think Abortions started when they became "legal"?

Personally, as a human, I would rather live in a world with no abortions.

personally, as a human I would rather live in a world without War. How many innocent children died this year as collateral damage in wars world wide?

the answer to all of these questions is To Many.
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heywood jablome
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?? Your remark is lost on me?
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Translation = Hey-would-ya-blow-me.

Glad I could help.
 Quoting: Chip


Wow those liberal types sure do have a valid point there!
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Re: Calling all Liberals and Democrats - Save the Children
What happened at Sandy Hook was wrong, immoral, illegal, etc.

Lanza had no right to end the lives of those beautiful children.
 Quoting: Woot Woot


easy.

just ban all semi-automatic firearms.

(let the guntards use pea-shooters)
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heywood jablome
 Quoting: major tom 2536038


?? Your remark is lost on me?
 Quoting: Woot Woot


Translation = Hey-would-ya-blow-me.

Glad I could help.
 Quoting: Chip


Wow those liberal types sure do have a valid point there!
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Their "deep thinkers".
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. ~Arthur C. Clarke

Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain

He's a nut-bag! Just because the fucker's got a library card doesn't make him Yoda! ~David Mills ~ Se7en

THE PLANET IS FINE! THE PEOPLE ARE FUCKED ~George Carlin RIP

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Organized crime, gang crime and drugs are growing concerns in Canada and the population of honest citizens is a vast easy target let us see how helpless you feel when this knocks upon your door.

Canadians had dutifully turned in their guns and independence, do you realize that your police force is under no obligation to rescue you.

Tories to introduce new anti-crime bills to tackle gang violence
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I think the current numbers on the fatalities for Sandy Hook are 20 children, 6 adult educators, the parent, and the deranged soul who just wasn't right.

Well, as terrible as these numbers are, they pale in comparison to the abortion figures.

I would guess the number of children's lives prematurely terminated to be a hundred, maybe five hundred, maybe even a thousand times the death toll of Sandy Hook

in the US


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 Quoting: Woot Woot


Your lack of critical thinking is amazing.. Most of our country us unemployed or working for low wages. one or two kids costs a lot of money to raise to maturity but what your suggesting would create even more debt, more poverty, more suffering, and more overall chaos in peoples souls. People deserve the option to choose and it is ONLY fair that they keep that GOD GIVEN RIGHT. This is a utterly ridiculous topic especially right now in the current economic, and political state. SHIT we are about to get into another war as well. It is completely SELFISH for YOU to force upon others what you believe in.

You also trying to call together people who think like you to push for this change yet what you don't understand is the collective has already spoken on this.

The truth is that everyone deserves the right. And no matter what you think or try you will never be able to stand moraly and in honor in this "Fight" if you keep thinking the way you do.
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