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Calling all Liberals and Democrats - Save the Children

 
Talkinghands

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12/20/2012 11:19 PM
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this is where we differ but in all respect stand in your own knowledge be what you want to see and others will follow. let it unfold naturally I would love to see a world of maturity with no "accidents" and no need for abortions but as for right now, sometimes its best that the soul isn't born into certain family structures. fighting to make the lives better that are already here and suffering is where we should be focusing right now.
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Just imagine how you would feel if that argument was being made about your right to continue to draw breath ... "making other lives better", "lfe of struggle", and "life of suffering" are pretty loose arguments that apply to every individual on this planet in some way, shape or form. So you really want the state using this as a basis for right to life?

You're a brave person. What you gonna do when they come for you like the song says?
 Quoting: Woot Woot


Ok, say abortion is no longer aloud. What would happen to all the kids that can't be with their parents because of their choice of lifestyle like in a ghetto or inner city.
"Do not attempt to accomplish greater results by a greater effort of your little understanding, but by a greater understanding of your little effort. The greater your understanding of the power within yourself, the less effort you need to make in order to achieve.
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Dr Einstein

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12/20/2012 11:20 PM
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Obama is for PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION.

The baby is twisted around to a breech birth, feet
first position,
and delivered until the baby's head is all
that is left in the vagina,
then a scalpel is plunged through the back of the
baby's skull, and the brains scrambled.
Then the baby's skull is crushed with forceps.
So the baby is murdered before he/she ever sees
daylight, or ever takes his/her first breath.

This is brutal infanticide.

Abortions happen by the thousands every day.
Every year millions of babies are murdered.
All without ONE SHOT being fired.

If you want to ban something, ban abortion.
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my daddy always told me he should have drown be at birth.
Woot Woot (OP)

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12/22/2012 12:33 AM

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I'm still waiting for somebody - anybody to come forward with anything remotely resembling an intelligent argument other than absent medical and legally sanctioned abortion, people will do stupid things to themselves and the unborn.

Seems to me doing stupid things to yourself is a God given right, but taking another's life is a crime in the eyes of man, and the eyes of God.
It just is.

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Woot Woot (OP)

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12/22/2012 12:39 AM

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this is where we differ but in all respect stand in your own knowledge be what you want to see and others will follow. let it unfold naturally I would love to see a world of maturity with no "accidents" and no need for abortions but as for right now, sometimes its best that the soul isn't born into certain family structures. fighting to make the lives better that are already here and suffering is where we should be focusing right now.
 Quoting: Talkinghands


Just imagine how you would feel if that argument was being made about your right to continue to draw breath ... "making other lives better", "lfe of struggle", and "life of suffering" are pretty loose arguments that apply to every individual on this planet in some way, shape or form. So you really want the state using this as a basis for right to life?

You're a brave person. What you gonna do when they come for you like the song says?
 Quoting: Woot Woot


Ok, say abortion is no longer aloud. What would happen to all the kids that can't be with their parents because of their choice of lifestyle like in a ghetto or inner city.
 Quoting: Talkinghands


What changes?? ... either parents step up, or the state steps up. What's best for the child and ultimately society in the long run is the parent's stepping up and let's be clear, I mean both of them whatever that means.
Woot Woot (OP)

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12/22/2012 12:40 AM

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my daddy always told me he should have drown be at birth.

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Unless you're a Charles Manson type, says something about your daddy imho
Anonymous Coward
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12/22/2012 12:44 AM
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Every one of those kids had a right to a full and complete life, just as surely as does every person, whose eyeballs happen to be reading these words.

This right is guaranteed in the Constitution of the United States of America.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this right is inalienable, and in my personal opinion God given. Others might argue the latter point, but nonetheless, a right. On this we can agree.
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Unfortunately, NO ONE is guaranteed life.
Akhnaton

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12/22/2012 12:53 AM
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"The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation." - Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”

OP, will you happily endure curtailment and deprivation of your liberty to "save the children"?
Woot Woot (OP)

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12/22/2012 02:32 AM

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Every one of those kids had a right to a full and complete life, just as surely as does every person, whose eyeballs happen to be reading these words.

This right is guaranteed in the Constitution of the United States of America.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this right is inalienable, and in my personal opinion God given. Others might argue the latter point, but nonetheless, a right. On this we can agree.
 Quoting: Woot Woot


Unfortunately, NO ONE is guaranteed life.
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Life ends for all kinds of reasons. Let us remove state sanctioned abortion from being one of them.

It not going to happen over night, but the path to doing the right thing is to incrementally move in the right direction, as an example making mid-second and third trimester abortions what they are, which is murder just as sure as what happened in Newtown.

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Woot Woot (OP)

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12/22/2012 02:41 AM

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"The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation." - Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”

OP, will you happily endure curtailment and deprivation of your liberty to "save the children"?
 Quoting: Akhnaton


Hitler was deranged. Clarify what you mean and I'll offer an opinion. As a comment, if this quote is about indoctination of the youth in some government education cult program, that's sole purview of the parent.

I would add, in the simplest terms, no life is of greater value than another. That includes the heart that just started beating in a fetus, to the person who is about to draw his or her last breath.

For what we're talking about here (not criminal law or matters of state and anti-terrorism & war), the government should not and cannot intentionally take direct action to knowingly terminate life imo. That being said, there are practical limits to the amount of health care resources that can be expended on either end of the far spectrum of life.

Last Edited by Woot Woot on 12/22/2012 02:48 AM