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Exclusive: Cops, detectives, FBI agents, U.S. soldiers tell Natural News they will not comply with gun confiscation orders

 
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(NaturalNews) In the wake of the recent Sandy Hook shooting, I reached out to my contacts in law enforcement, military and (retired) FBI over the last three days, asking three simple questions:

#1) Do you think Obama will use executive orders to demand nationwide gun confiscation?

#2) If such an order is given, will you or fellow members of your organization enforce it against the citizens? (And if so, how?)

#3) What is the solution to stopping future mass shootings?

I posed these questions to one ex-FBI agent, one retired Sheriff's deputy, two active duty city police detectives, one retired former police captain of a major U.S. city, two U.S. Army veterans and one USMC veteran, discharged several years ago after two tours in Afghanistan during which he sustained a severe personal injury. For obvious reasons, none of them wish to be identified by name, but their answers below speak to their credibility and authenticity.

Here are their answers.

#1) Will Obama use Executive Order to call for gun confiscation?

The majority of those answering this question told me they did not believe Obama would call for outright gun confiscation. One detective told me, "Obama will probably try to roll out an incremental restriction similar to the '94 Clinton assault weapons ban." He would then wait for another mass shooting and use that event to ratchet up the restrictions, I was told.

Only two of the eight people I questioned thought that Obama would call for outright gun confiscation, and one of those believed it would only be a restriction on so-called "assault rifles" but not shotguns or handguns.

Everyone believed that Obama would at minimum call for restrictions on weapon magazine capacity, most likely seeking to limit that to ten rounds per magazine (which is also the current limit in California). I was also told that Obama might attempt to federalize mandatory waiting periods for gun purchases, which already exist in some states but not all.

#2) Will you enforce gun confiscation against the citizens?
On this issue, the answer was resounding and unanimous: NO!

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they won't have to

the UN will do it for them
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they won't have to

the UN will do it for them
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No they wont. Any armed UN prese is an invasion force and we would take up arms against them.
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The good news is that all responded no to actual confiscations. The bad news is that most of your respondents were already retired. They might reflect current views within active government agencies, but things have changed so fast, anything is possible now.

If what happened in this thread can happen (and the video shows it actually happening) then all bets are off. Thread: Women Cavity Searched at Texas Traffic Stop
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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Riiiiiggghht. Talk is cheap.

When they are threatened with losing their pay checks and pensions for insubordination they will.
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Riiiiiggghht. Talk is cheap.

When they are threatened with losing their pay checks and pensions for insubordination they will.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11769536


^this^

It is comforting to hear what retired people bluster. When the paid cop gets the orders though...
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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Riiiiiggghht. Talk is cheap.

When they are threatened with losing their pay checks and pensions for insubordination they will.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11769536


:Agreed:
Sad but True...
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Hello

There isn't enough violent acts, yet, wink wink to get confiscation going. There will praobably be another mass shooting to get that in play. Protect the children!
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Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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Riiiiiggghht. Talk is cheap.

When they are threatened with losing their pay checks and pensions for insubordination they will.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11769536


:Agreed:
Sad but True...
 Quoting: Tanarus


what good is a paycheck or a retirement pension
if you don't live long enough to spend it ??

the NWO is gonna throw these people
under the bus just like Hitler did.
too bad they are too dumb to realize it.
don't say we didn't tell them.
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Riiiiiggghht. Talk is cheap.

When they are threatened with losing their pay checks and pensions for insubordination they will.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11769536


How does one lose a pension for "insubordination"?

They are retired.
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Riiiiiggghht. Talk is cheap.

When they are threatened with losing their pay checks and pensions for insubordination they will.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11769536


:Agreed:
Sad but True...
 Quoting: Tanarus


Cops have families too, ya know.

This could get VERY ugly.

If you get my drift.

The crime syndicate using the Little People to make war on the other Little People.

Kinda like squirting gas on a fire to put out the flames.
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Hello All

A back door tactic they might try to confiscate could come from a little known source, your home insurance policy. Say the ptb tell the insurance companies to not insure homes that have automatic weopons. You need insurance to get your financing for the home and keep it.

Say that is in place and a homeowner says that he will still keep his guns. What happens? The insurance is cancelled. Then, a letter goes out to the mortgage lender. They notify you that to keep your house, you have to pay for their insurance. The price for your current insurance was 1500/year. Now they want to raise it to 5000+ per year. So you know, my insurance did that when I loss my insurance policy.

Then the wife gets on you because now you can't afford to feed your children after paying the extra money. So you conceed your weopons.

Then you think, how in the first place did the insurance company know that you have weopons? Well, this will be a precedent. The FBI and your local gun stores are forced to give up info on what type of weopons you purchased.

Does this sound so far off in these times?

We will see.....
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I am just a sinner trying to make it to heaven!

Romans 8:35-39
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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they won't have to

the UN will do it for them
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Nah, they don't have the balls for that...
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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It boils down to our citizen soldiers. They are us. When it comes time to try to seize our weapons, OUR soldiers and law enforcement neighbors won't do it for 2 reasons. 1. They are members of our community and interact with us everyday. 2. They know that those weapons will be used to defend the residences they approach.
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I heard a radio show talking with someone who knew Russian intelligence, he said Russian soldiers have been trained in English since they were five so they have no accent. When the time comes for force to be used on the public, our soldiers will be out of the country and these Russian soldiers would be enforcing things and the us public wouldn't know the difference.
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Hello All

A back door tactic they might try to confiscate could come from a little known source, your home insurance policy. Say the ptb tell the insurance companies to not insure homes that have automatic weopons. You need insurance to get your financing for the home and keep it.

Say that is in place and a homeowner says that he will still keep his guns. What happens? The insurance is cancelled. Then, a letter goes out to the mortgage lender. They notify you that to keep your house, you have to pay for their insurance. The price for your current insurance was 1500/year. Now they want to raise it to 5000+ per year. So you know, my insurance did that when I loss my insurance policy.

Then the wife gets on you because now you can't afford to feed your children after paying the extra money. So you conceed your weopons.

Then you think, how in the first place did the insurance company know that you have weopons? Well, this will be a precedent. The FBI and your local gun stores are forced to give up info on what type of weopons you purchased.

Does this sound so far off in these times?

We will see.....
 Quoting: odinson222


First off, although this sounds like a logical progression, it also fails on other legalities. Just like what the US Supreme Court said over Obamacare. Obamacare as a tax is legal, however, forcing a taxpayer to fund a third party by legislating law is unconstitutional.

If the federal government ordered that all gun owners must pay a special premium to the insurance companies in order to keep guns is unconstitutional.

However, if the insurance was increased by the insurance company without a government mandate (law), then this would be legal.
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they won't have to

the UN will do it for them
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No they wont. Any armed UN prese is an invasion force and we would take up arms against them.
 Quoting: Floobarb the Argnorf


I've known people who've been training with blue balloons for many years. They're about the size of a helmet.
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Riiiiiggghht. Talk is cheap.

When they are threatened with losing their pay checks and pensions for insubordination they will.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11769536


That's why Jesus spoke of people just like this.

"What profit it a man to gain the whole world, but lose his very soul?"

"He who seeks to save his life shall lose it, and He who loses his life for My sake shall have life eternal."
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they won't have to

the UN will do it for them
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No they wont. Any armed UN prese is an invasion force and we would take up arms against them.
 Quoting: Floobarb the Argnorf


This
"You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it." -Morpheus
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they won't have to

the UN will do it for them
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Nah, they don't have the balls for that...
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They will write letters!
"You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it." -Morpheus
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they won't have to

the UN will do it for them
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[link to www.google.com]

Sure, these assholes are going to take the guns of 50 million pissed off Americans as well as the military that defects and sides with US Citizens.

What a fucking delusion!

Americans..... [link to www.google.com]


UN Troops....
[link to www.google.com]


Need I say more?
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American civilians train at places like this.
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they won't have to

the UN will do it for them
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7033199


No they wont. Any armed UN prese is an invasion force and we would take up arms against them.
 Quoting: Floobarb the Argnorf


It appears that is the plan.
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they won't have to

the UN will do it for them
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7033199


[link to www.google.com]

Sure, these assholes are going to take the guns of 50 million pissed off Americans as well as the military that defects and sides with US Citizens.

What a fucking delusion!

Americans..... [link to www.google.com]


UN Troops....
[link to www.google.com]


Need I say more?
 Quoting: DarthDickheadus:AmericanSith


That number of armed American Individuals is closer to 100 Million now.
About 50% of American Households.
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Riiiiiggghht. Talk is cheap.

When they are threatened with losing their pay checks and pensions for insubordination they will.
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That's why Jesus spoke of people just like this.

"What profit it a man to gain the whole world, but lose his very soul?"

"He who seeks to save his life shall lose it, and He who loses his life for My sake shall have life eternal."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30307828


If you want to be a martyr...go ahead, but for our sakes don't use a gun, fall on your sword
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In one of the many future occupation of America dreams I have had, guns were being traded in for food. People were hungry, so they came out and made the trade.

I watched one woman argue the weapon should be turned in. Really, she feared being caught with it. Her husband refused.

The cops were all dressed in uniforms belonging to police from Netherlands.

They're going to get them one way or another. Cash for Clunkers removed many of the non-GPS vehicles from the future resistance.

Want to hear the best part? The NWO is going to commit some kind of gas attack to increase their power. However, the Germans who are working "for" them are going to kill the NWO leaders, and put themselves in power instead.
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American civilians train at places like this.
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USSA is Top notch! Thats where i go. You can train with Full Auto as well.
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they won't have to

the UN will do it for them
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7033199


No they wont. Any armed UN prese is an invasion force and we would take up arms against them.
 Quoting: Floobarb the Argnorf


right, in your dreams maybe. We have become a country of Cowards. Our Founding Fathers would have Revolted if even half of our current laws had even been suggested by the government in their time.

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