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No family member has come forward to claim the bodies of the Lanzas.

 
Gratia Plena

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Maybe they were on Nancy's case for a long time about Adam needing help or to be committed to a psychiatric hospital, but she refused to do it, so mom and dad got divorced and Ryan cut ties because she refused to get Adam the help he needed. She wouldn't cut the umbilical cord and they had enough.
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I find this heartbreaking as well as disturbing.

Why wouldn't the father, older son or grandmother come forward?

What did Nancy do wrong?

Very sad.


"A spokesman for the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner, in Farmington, Connecticut, confirmed that no family member had yet come forward to claim the bodies of Lanza or his mother. All other victims of the shooting had been handed over to loved ones, she said."



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 Quoting: Miggy


I would think that Peter Lanza will claim Adam as soon as the media disappears. Peter Lanza seems like a decent man.

I would think that the best choice would be cremation. If Adam is buried, the media will be all over the cemetery.

I know a really decent family whose 23 year old son killed his girlfriend and then himself. Just horrible, but they did have a viewing at a funeral home. I went. This guy and his family had so many friends that people waited in a long line down the sidewalk. At first I heard that he was in an unmarked grave, but that could have changed. This family was so wonderful...I felt so badly for them.
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Maybe they were on Nancy's case for a long time about Adam needing help or to be committed to a psychiatric hospital, but she refused to do it, so mom and dad got divorced and Ryan cut ties because she refused to get Adam the help he needed. She wouldn't cut the umbilical cord and they had enough.
 Quoting: Gratia Plena


Maybe they were on Nancy's case for a long time about Adam needing help or to be committed to a psychiatric hospital, but she refused to do it, so mom and dad got divorced and Ryan cut ties because she refused to get Adam the help he needed. She wouldn't cut the umbilical cord and they had enough.
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I agree with you.
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You claim the body you pay for the burial.
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But we're talking about a mother and brothers burying their daughter and sister. Who would even think about the cost?
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I find this heartbreaking as well as disturbing.

Why wouldn't the father, older son or grandmother come forward?

What did Nancy do wrong?


 Quoting: Miggy


she gave her son the guns and trained him to be
a para-military mass murderer.
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Maybe they were on Nancy's case for a long time about Adam needing help or to be committed to a psychiatric hospital, but she refused to do it, so mom and dad got divorced and Ryan cut ties because she refused to get Adam the help he needed. She wouldn't cut the umbilical cord and they had enough.
 Quoting: Gratia Plena


According to the media, Nancy divorced in 2001. The father started dating another woman in 2010.

This is supposedly the last time he and Adam spoke to each other. Adam obviously had a problem with his step-mother.

So why wasn't she a target if he flipped out? Why did he instead go to a elementary school?
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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You claim the body you pay for the burial.
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But we're talking about a mother and brothers burying their daughter and sister. Who would even think about the cost?
 Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain


My husband hates his mother so much, I don't think he would spend money on burying her. But we don't have millions like that family (they must if she was getting a $200K a year alimony payment). Some people are VERY estranged from family, though.
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I find this heartbreaking as well as disturbing.

Why wouldn't the father, older son or grandmother come forward?

What did Nancy do wrong?


 Quoting: Miggy


she gave her son the guns and trained him to be
a para-military mass murderer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


Oh? She trained her reclusive son that hardly ever left the house to be a para-military mass murderer?

Did they have a shooting range in the basement?
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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I find this heartbreaking as well as disturbing.

Why wouldn't the father, older son or grandmother come forward?

What did Nancy do wrong?


 Quoting: Miggy


she gave her son the guns and trained him to be
a para-military mass murderer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


Oh? She trained her reclusive son that hardly ever left the house to be a para-military mass murderer?

Did they have a shooting range in the basement?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


you don't read much, do you.
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Maybe they were on Nancy's case for a long time about Adam needing help or to be committed to a psychiatric hospital, but she refused to do it, so mom and dad got divorced and Ryan cut ties because she refused to get Adam the help he needed. She wouldn't cut the umbilical cord and they had enough.
 Quoting: Gratia Plena


According to the media, Nancy divorced in 2001. The father started dating another woman in 2010.

This is supposedly the last time he and Adam spoke to each other. Adam obviously had a problem with his step-mother.

So why wasn't she a target if he flipped out? Why did he instead go to a elementary school?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Gotcha. I didn't know that. The media keeps saying he was jealous of the students at the school, which is why he went after them, but jealous of WHAT? I don't get that. You're right - if he cut ties with his dad because of a new girlfriend, it's weird that dad and step-mom weren't targeted at all.
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I find this heartbreaking as well as disturbing.

Why wouldn't the father, older son or grandmother come forward?

What did Nancy do wrong?


 Quoting: Miggy


she gave her son the guns and trained him to be
a para-military mass murderer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


Oh? She trained her reclusive son that hardly ever left the house to be a para-military mass murderer?

Did they have a shooting range in the basement?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


you don't read much, do you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


I read that the shooting ranges in the area aren't familiar with Nancy or Adam.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Re: No family member has come forward to claim the bodies of the Lanzas.
I find this heartbreaking as well as disturbing.

Why wouldn't the father, older son or grandmother come forward?

What did Nancy do wrong?


 Quoting: Miggy


she gave her son the guns and trained him to be
a para-military mass murderer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


Oh? She trained her reclusive son that hardly ever left the house to be a para-military mass murderer?

Did they have a shooting range in the basement?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


you don't read much, do you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


no. check that.

i'm certain that you just have zero comprehension abilities.
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It leads me to ask, if the mother was stressed during her pregnancy did this caused her son's mental disease?
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I was under a lot of stress during my second pregnancy, and my daughter has always been wonderful. A sweet, beautiful, vivacious, and happy child.....she's the same now that she's an adult. If I could have cloned her, I would have had five more kids. lol
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Since he was over eighteen and the parents were divorced, I'm sure the father has no legal obligation. I feel sorry for the brother though. As someone say in a comment previously "no contact for 2 years". Sounds like the poor guy had enough of the Mommy and Adam Freak Show. Hopefully he'll be able to get through all this.
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Sounds to me that during the course of thier marriage they discovered they had a disturbed child.Dad and big brother baled on both of them and they were left to take care of each other cuz it wasnt thier problem they had a sick child/sibling. You see treated in death as in life.
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Maybe they were on Nancy's case for a long time about Adam needing help or to be committed to a psychiatric hospital, but she refused to do it, so mom and dad got divorced and Ryan cut ties because she refused to get Adam the help he needed. She wouldn't cut the umbilical cord and they had enough.
 Quoting: Gratia Plena


According to the media, Nancy divorced in 2001. The father started dating another woman in 2010.

This is supposedly the last time he and Adam spoke to each other. Adam obviously had a problem with his step-mother.

So why wasn't she a target if he flipped out? Why did he instead go to a elementary school?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


I read that Adam had a "falling out" with about 6 teachers at the school the day before the shooting. One of the teachers stayed home from school the day of the shooting. I'm still waiting for her to talk and tell what the problem was...that's if the media was correct about Adam's visit to the school.
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Maybe they were on Nancy's case for a long time about Adam needing help or to be committed to a psychiatric hospital, but she refused to do it, so mom and dad got divorced and Ryan cut ties because she refused to get Adam the help he needed. She wouldn't cut the umbilical cord and they had enough.
 Quoting: Gratia Plena


According to the media, Nancy divorced in 2001. The father started dating another woman in 2010.

This is supposedly the last time he and Adam spoke to each other. Adam obviously had a problem with his step-mother.

So why wasn't she a target if he flipped out? Why did he instead go to a elementary school?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


I read that Adam had a "falling out" with about 6 teachers at the school the day before the shooting. One of the teachers stayed home from school the day of the shooting. I'm still waiting for her to talk and tell what the problem was...that's if the media was correct about Adam's visit to the school.
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Yes, but how is this consistent with his reclusive life style? Where did he encounter 6 elementary school teachers? Isn't he usually in his room playing xbox?
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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she gave her son the guns and trained him to be
a para-military mass murderer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


Oh? She trained her reclusive son that hardly ever left the house to be a para-military mass murderer?

Did they have a shooting range in the basement?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


you don't read much, do you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


I read that the shooting ranges in the area aren't familiar with Nancy or Adam.
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This article said they did:
[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]
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Maybe they were on Nancy's case for a long time about Adam needing help or to be committed to a psychiatric hospital, but she refused to do it, so mom and dad got divorced and Ryan cut ties because she refused to get Adam the help he needed. She wouldn't cut the umbilical cord and they had enough.
 Quoting: Gratia Plena


According to the media, Nancy divorced in 2001. The father started dating another woman in 2010.

This is supposedly the last time he and Adam spoke to each other. Adam obviously had a problem with his step-mother.

So why wasn't she a target if he flipped out? Why did he instead go to a elementary school?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


I read that Adam had a "falling out" with about 6 teachers at the school the day before the shooting. One of the teachers stayed home from school the day of the shooting. I'm still waiting for her to talk and tell what the problem was...that's if the media was correct about Adam's visit to the school.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27310787


Is the story now that he was up at the school the day before and had the 'altercation' then?
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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I heard she was shot five times in the face? maybe she CANT be id'd/claimed cause its not her..
no matter what, theres something super fishy about the whole story
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This article said they did:
[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]
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No, it doesn't say they did.

It says:

"Colbrun says it's still not clear whether Nancy Lanza brought her son to the range or whether he ever fired a weapon there."

They would not identify what shooting range. They said that they could verify that Nancy had been there, but were not clear weather Nancy brought her son.

I have seen other stories that say that there is no record of Nancy or Adam going to any gun ranges in the area.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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It leads me to ask, if the mother was stressed during her pregnancy did this caused her son's mental disease?
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lots of mothers are drunkards.

fetal alcohol syndrome is quite common (any or all of
your peers have got it)
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I find this heartbreaking as well as disturbing.

Why wouldn't the father, older son or grandmother come forward?

What did Nancy do wrong?

Very sad.


"A spokesman for the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner, in Farmington, Connecticut, confirmed that no family member had yet come forward to claim the bodies of Lanza or his mother. All other victims of the shooting had been handed over to loved ones, she said."



[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
 Quoting: Miggy


what nancy did wrong is raising a son who murdered little children and the adults who tried to defend them.

she above all people knew that she had a very distrubed thing living under her roof and still she brought guns into the home and taught him how to use them.

i question her sanity as well.

in my opinion the home they shared should be bulldozed to the ground and the name of adam lanza never mentioned again.
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why are you using christian symbols in a hate filled comment remember the term what would Jesus do?
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Jesus, look at this story...

[link to www.news.com.au]

Demonize much?
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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It leads me to ask, if the mother was stressed during her pregnancy did this caused her son's mental disease?
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lots of mothers are drunkards.

fetal alcohol syndrome is quite common (any or all of
your peers have got it)
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mothers sucking their children's toes is the cause of a lot of aberrant behavior in adulthood too.
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I find this heartbreaking as well as disturbing.

Why wouldn't the father, older son or grandmother come forward?

What did Nancy do wrong?


 Quoting: Miggy


she gave her son the guns and trained him to be
a para-military mass murderer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


Oh? She trained her reclusive son that hardly ever left the house to be a para-military mass murderer?

Did they have a shooting range in the basement?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


you don't read much, do you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


I guess you don't either. The shooting range thing is in question now. It has not been confirmed.
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I find this heartbreaking as well as disturbing.

Why wouldn't the father, older son or grandmother come forward?

What did Nancy do wrong?

Very sad.


"A spokesman for the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner, in Farmington, Connecticut, confirmed that no family member had yet come forward to claim the bodies of Lanza or his mother. All other victims of the shooting had been handed over to loved ones, she said."



[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
 Quoting: Miggy


what nancy did wrong is raising a son who murdered little children and the adults who tried to defend them.

she above all people knew that she had a very distrubed thing living under her roof and still she brought guns into the home and taught him how to use them.

i question her sanity as well.

in my opinion the home they shared should be bulldozed to the ground and the name of adam lanza never mentioned again.
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why are you using christian symbols in a hate filled comment remember the term what would Jesus do?
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hellooooooo, it is a christmas signature, i had no idea i should have edited my signature to reflect the thread.

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Jesus, look at this story...

[link to www.news.com.au]

Demonize much?
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[link to www.news.com.au]

And Adam was a devil worshiper. Are we to believe he was a autistic, possibly medicated (or not) for a mental illness, satan worshiping, reclusive video game playing, trained killer son of a 'prepper' gun extremist mother who always has a drink in her hand?

The mother was taking him to gun ranges and militarizing him at the same time she was trying to get him to see a psychiatrist for a mental disorder? And meanwhile he is worshiping the devil?

I don't buy it.

Last Edited by Jonny Blaze on 12/20/2012 12:37 PM
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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she gave her son the guns and trained him to be
a para-military mass murderer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


Oh? She trained her reclusive son that hardly ever left the house to be a para-military mass murderer?

Did they have a shooting range in the basement?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


you don't read much, do you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


I guess you don't either. The shooting range thing is in question now. It has not been confirmed.
 Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain


oh? so, then, you are certain then that Nancy Lanza wasn't
a para-military gun-freak then. right?
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Jesus, look at this story...

[link to www.news.com.au]

Demonize much?
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[link to www.news.com.au]

And Adam was a devil worshiper. Are we to believe he was a autistic, possibly medicated (or not) for a mental illness, satan worshiping, reclusive video game playing, trained killer son of a 'prepper' gun extremist mother who always has a drink in her hand?

The mother was taking him to gun ranges and militarizing him at the same time she was trying to get him to see a psychiatrist for a mental disorder? And meanwhile he is worshiping the devil?

I don't buy it.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze

The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Miggy, you may want to edit the OP that the mother is going to family in NH.
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Howard Dean: Benghazi is a laughable joke. (ARRRRRRRRRRRRR)
Hillary: What difference does it make?
Carney: Benghazi happened a long time ago.
Congressman Cummings: Death is a part of life.
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