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No family member has come forward to claim the bodies of the Lanzas.

 
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Maybe they were on Nancy's case for a long time about Adam needing help or to be committed to a psychiatric hospital, but she refused to do it, so mom and dad got divorced and Ryan cut ties because she refused to get Adam the help he needed. She wouldn't cut the umbilical cord and they had enough.
 Quoting: Gratia Plena


According to the media, Nancy divorced in 2001. The father started dating another woman in 2010.

This is supposedly the last time he and Adam spoke to each other. Adam obviously had a problem with his step-mother.

So why wasn't she a target if he flipped out? Why did he instead go to a elementary school?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


I read that Adam had a "falling out" with about 6 teachers at the school the day before the shooting. One of the teachers stayed home from school the day of the shooting. I'm still waiting for her to talk and tell what the problem was...that's if the media was correct about Adam's visit to the school.
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Is the story now that he was up at the school the day before and had the 'altercation' then?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


I read a couple of days ago that he had a falling out with the Principal, the school psychologist and two women who work in the office. One woman had taken a personal day that day but the other three were murdered. I saw an interview with the woman who wasn't there that day. She actually had taken her son out of school that day as well and they went into NYC to see some sort of electric train exhibit. She basically said she had survivor's guilt, although not using that phrase. She didn't say anything about an altercation.

There are so many stories about Adam and his mother that I bet most are not true. I saw an interview with a friend of the mother and he said she loved collecting guns but she was not a prepper and he had tears in his eyes when he said they're painting her as some gun-nut obsessed with survival and she wasn't. She had a wide variety of interests but was not obsessed with survival as the media is painting her. We all know the msm sucks and they lied about Zimmerman and they lie all the time about Barry. They can't be trusted.
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You would think that the father and brother would - out of simple common decency, have a mortuary claim their bodies and do a simple and quick service for the boy and a bit more for the mother - while not exactly innocent in the whole scheme of things, at least she didn't pull the trigger and deserves a funeral so her friends in the area can pay their last respects. Certainly there is no lack of money from either her estate or the pockets of her ex-husband. The brother will inherit from his mother and as a teacher she had life coverage plus probably insurance policies of her own on a private basis. Her alimony payments probably allowed her to have substantial savings and/or investments also. So paying out a few thousand dollars for a funeral or cremation is not a major issue here.

The father of Adam (Nancy's ex) and his other son cannot leave their bodies laying in the country morgue forever. A mortuary can make the arrangements for pick-up and cremation or whatever with no necessity for the family to actually show up at the morgue at all. No matter how angry they may be at these two - or how humiliated they may feel by what has happened they really need to step up and do the decent thing and get closure for themselves and the community.
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I read a couple of days ago that he had a falling out with the Principal, the school psychologist and two women who work in the office. One woman had taken a personal day that day but the other three were murdered. I saw an interview with the woman who wasn't there that day. She actually had taken her son out of school that day as well and they went into NYC to see some sort of electric train exhibit. She basically said she had survivor's guilt, although not using that phrase. She didn't say anything about an altercation.

There are so many stories about Adam and his mother that I bet most are not true. I saw an interview with a friend of the mother and he said she loved collecting guns but she was not a prepper and he had tears in his eyes when he said they're painting her as some gun-nut obsessed with survival and she wasn't. She had a wide variety of interests but was not obsessed with survival as the media is painting her. We all know the msm sucks and they lied about Zimmerman and they lie all the time about Barry. They can't be trusted.
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There is no doubt a huge demonizing campaign going on here. It is clear that the media wants judgment rather than facts by the blatant 'labeling' and 'stereotyping' that rampant in their stories about the mother and the alleged shooter.

I think it's really odd. No one wants to understand what the events are surrounding these people that led up to their involvement in this mass shooting.

Instead, everyone wants to paint whatever picture of hate they want onto them and cast them aside without any study or scrutiny.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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You would think that the father and brother would - out of simple common decency, have a mortuary claim their bodies and do a simple and quick service for the boy and a bit more for the mother - while not exactly innocent in the whole scheme of things, at least she didn't pull the trigger and deserves a funeral so her friends in the area can pay their last respects. Certainly there is no lack of money from either her estate or the pockets of her ex-husband. The brother will inherit from his mother and as a teacher she had life coverage plus probably insurance policies of her own on a private basis. Her alimony payments probably allowed her to have substantial savings and/or investments also. So paying out a few thousand dollars for a funeral or cremation is not a major issue here.

The father of Adam (Nancy's ex) and his other son cannot leave their bodies laying in the country morgue forever. A mortuary can make the arrangements for pick-up and cremation or whatever with no necessity for the family to actually show up at the morgue at all. No matter how angry they may be at these two - or how humiliated they may feel by what has happened they really need to step up and do the decent thing and get closure for themselves and the community.
 Quoting: MarkinAZ


Nancy wasn't a teacher. She supposedly home-schooled Adam for a few years...but she didn't work as a teacher at a school. I don't think she had a 'job'.

Last Edited by Jonny Blaze on 12/20/2012 12:57 PM
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Nancy wasn't a teacher. She supposedly home-schooled Adam for a few years...but she didn't work as a teacher at a school. I don't think she had a 'job'.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Nancy was a paramilitary gun-freak, and she trained
her son, Adam, in the art and craft.

and, her little frankenstein monster turned around
and bit her in the ass, one day.
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Nancy wasn't a teacher. She supposedly home-schooled Adam for a few years...but she didn't work as a teacher at a school. I don't think she had a 'job'.
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


Nancy was a paramilitary gun-freak, and she trained
her son, Adam, in the art and craft.

and, her little frankenstein monster turned around
and bit her in the ass, one day.
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Yes. Yes....(rubs hands together eagerly)...

...she thought she had her 'Frankenstein' paramilitary gun freak assassin under control...

[link to www.foxnews.com]

...train well young frankenstein or I will commit you...but she failed to realize that all that time spent in the basement was not spent merely playing xbox....

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

...he had a new master now....
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Maybe they were on Nancy's case for a long time about Adam needing help or to be committed to a psychiatric hospital, but she refused to do it, so mom and dad got divorced and Ryan cut ties because she refused to get Adam the help he needed. She wouldn't cut the umbilical cord and they had enough.
 Quoting: Gratia Plena


According to the media, Nancy divorced in 2001. The father started dating another woman in 2010.

This is supposedly the last time he and Adam spoke to each other. Adam obviously had a problem with his step-mother.

So why wasn't she a target if he flipped out? Why did he instead go to a elementary school?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze



That's funny. All the articles I read stated that Peter and Nanzy Lanza were divorced 3 years ago -- in '09. Here's just one:

[link to www.usatoday.com]

Yet ANOTHER discrepancy in this screwball case!
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Maybe they were on Nancy's case for a long time about Adam needing help or to be committed to a psychiatric hospital, but she refused to do it, so mom and dad got divorced and Ryan cut ties because she refused to get Adam the help he needed. She wouldn't cut the umbilical cord and they had enough.
 Quoting: Gratia Plena


According to the media, Nancy divorced in 2001. The father started dating another woman in 2010.

This is supposedly the last time he and Adam spoke to each other. Adam obviously had a problem with his step-mother.

So why wasn't she a target if he flipped out? Why did he instead go to a elementary school?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze



That's funny. All the articles I read stated that Peter and Nanzy Lanza were divorced 3 years ago -- in '09. Here's just one:

[link to www.usatoday.com]

Yet ANOTHER discrepancy in this screwball case!
 Quoting: Hahaha 28872856


Hmmm. I'm not sure where I read that...maybe I got the year wrong...maybe it was 2009.

Regardless, if he refused to talk to his Dad because his dad was seeing another woman who he later married...why wouldn't the stepmother (or the father) be his emotionally driven target. He supposedly 'flipped out' right?

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The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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I also heard a radio news report this morning, that an out of state funeral home has claimed the body of Ms. Lanza, the mother, and will be taking care of arrangements.

No mention of the name or location of the funeral home, other than it is not in CT.
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Probably New Hampshire.
Peter & Nancy were originally from the Nashua area.
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Kinda like where's the funeral for Stevens who was killed at Benghazi

No funeral records
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Maybe they were on Nancy's case for a long time about Adam needing help or to be committed to a psychiatric hospital, but she refused to do it, so mom and dad got divorced and Ryan cut ties because she refused to get Adam the help he needed. She wouldn't cut the umbilical cord and they had enough.
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Geez...look at the alimony she received!

[link to www.nydailynews.com]
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Kinda like where's the funeral for Stevens who was killed at Benghazi

No funeral records
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"Family members said Stevens' ashes would be interred near his grandfather and other relatives in his birthplace of Grass Valley, California."

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Maybe they were on Nancy's case for a long time about Adam needing help or to be committed to a psychiatric hospital, but she refused to do it, so mom and dad got divorced and Ryan cut ties because she refused to get Adam the help he needed. She wouldn't cut the umbilical cord and they had enough.
 Quoting: Gratia Plena


Geez...look at the alimony she received!

[link to www.nydailynews.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27310787


Yes...the sizable alimony means that she did well in the divorce negotiations. Perhaps the father was having an affair.

Regardless, in 2009 the court ruled that she get custody of Adam and a sizable alimony payment.

No alimonly needed now...and the older brother probably gets all of Nancy's estate.

It would be interesting to see Nancy's will.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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(at 2:37)

"You'd think after the thousands of people I have seen shot I could answer that question."

The county coroner from a sleepy town in Connecticut has examined thousands of shooting victims?

Was he in Nam?
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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The mom was buried today in an undisclosed location in New Hampshire.

[link to pix11.com]
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The mom was buried today in an undisclosed location in New Hampshire.

[link to pix11.com]
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are they sure she's really dead?
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(at 2:37)

"You'd think after the thousands of people I have seen shot I could answer that question."

The county coroner from a sleepy town in Connecticut has examined thousands of shooting victims?

Was he in Nam?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


He is the STATE medical examiner, and has been for decades.
Connecticut Chief State Medical Examiner is his official title.

You're not the first one to note this "inconsistency" and suggest it proves there's something amiss. I'm not saying some of this seems odd, but I am saying that a LOT of information being disseminated here as "mysterious", is really a breakdown of understanding on the authors part, a misread story, a misunderstood fact, a faulty memory etc...and all these things are adding up to a big frenzy, and even taking away from the legitimate "inconsistencies".
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(at 2:37)

"You'd think after the thousands of people I have seen shot I could answer that question."

The county coroner from a sleepy town in Connecticut has examined thousands of shooting victims?

Was he in Nam?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


He is the STATE medical examiner, and has been for decades.
Connecticut Chief State Medical Examiner is his official title.

You're not the first one to note this "inconsistency" and suggest it proves there's something amiss. I'm not saying some of this seems odd, but I am saying that a LOT of information being disseminated here as "mysterious", is really a breakdown of understanding on the authors part, a misread story, a misunderstood fact, a faulty memory etc...and all these things are adding up to a big frenzy, and even taking away from the legitimate "inconsistencies".
 Quoting: JennOfArc


Are you suggesting that the entire state of Connecticut only has one medical examiner?
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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(at 2:37)

"You'd think after the thousands of people I have seen shot I could answer that question."

The county coroner from a sleepy town in Connecticut has examined thousands of shooting victims?

Was he in Nam?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


He is the STATE medical examiner, and has been for decades.
Connecticut Chief State Medical Examiner is his official title.

You're not the first one to note this "inconsistency" and suggest it proves there's something amiss. I'm not saying some of this seems odd, but I am saying that a LOT of information being disseminated here as "mysterious", is really a breakdown of understanding on the authors part, a misread story, a misunderstood fact, a faulty memory etc...and all these things are adding up to a big frenzy, and even taking away from the legitimate "inconsistencies".
 Quoting: JennOfArc


Are you suggesting that the entire state of Connecticut only has one medical examiner?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


yes. i just googled it, and Carver is the Chief Medical Examiner
for the state of Connecticut.

[link to www.ct.gov]
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I wouldn't for fear of my life.

You claim, you pay, could be no one wants to pay for these cost.
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(at 2:37)

"You'd think after the thousands of people I have seen shot I could answer that question."

The county coroner from a sleepy town in Connecticut has examined thousands of shooting victims?

Was he in Nam?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


He is the STATE medical examiner, and has been for decades.
Connecticut Chief State Medical Examiner is his official title.

You're not the first one to note this "inconsistency" and suggest it proves there's something amiss. I'm not saying some of this seems odd, but I am saying that a LOT of information being disseminated here as "mysterious", is really a breakdown of understanding on the authors part, a misread story, a misunderstood fact, a faulty memory etc...and all these things are adding up to a big frenzy, and even taking away from the legitimate "inconsistencies".
 Quoting: JennOfArc


Are you suggesting that the entire state of Connecticut only has one medical examiner?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


yes. i just googled it, and Carver is the Chief Medical Examiner
for the state of Connecticut.

[link to www.ct.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


He is the Chief Medical Examiner. How many other medical examiners are there?
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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He is the STATE medical examiner, and has been for decades.
Connecticut Chief State Medical Examiner is his official title.

You're not the first one to note this "inconsistency" and suggest it proves there's something amiss. I'm not saying some of this seems odd, but I am saying that a LOT of information being disseminated here as "mysterious", is really a breakdown of understanding on the authors part, a misread story, a misunderstood fact, a faulty memory etc...and all these things are adding up to a big frenzy, and even taking away from the legitimate "inconsistencies".
 Quoting: JennOfArc


Are you suggesting that the entire state of Connecticut only has one medical examiner?
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


yes. i just googled it, and Carver is the Chief Medical Examiner
for the state of Connecticut.

[link to www.ct.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


He is the Chief Medical Examiner. How many other medical examiners are there?
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the counties only have "coroners", and probably just
local doctors who round-robin in around.
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Looks like there are about 200 gun related death's in the entire state per year.

Are you telling me Carver as the CME of the state personally examines each one?

[link to www.ct.gov]
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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The guy did mention 'spreadsheets'.

I just wonder how many of these 'examinations' he does personally.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Looks like there are about 200 gun related death's in the entire state per year.

Are you telling me Carver as the CME of the state personally examines each one?

[link to www.ct.gov]
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it sounds to me like a very cozy situation for all the
rich and powerful folks in the state, whenever they might
find themselves in a compromising position?
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Looks like there are about 200 gun related death's in the entire state per year.

Are you telling me Carver as the CME of the state personally examines each one?

[link to www.ct.gov]
 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


it sounds to me like a very cozy situation for all the
rich and powerful folks in the state, whenever they might
find themselves in a compromising position?
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How did he not know about this?

[link to www.examiner.com]

The assault rifle was found in the trunk as reported by the authorities earlier.

The story changes and no one speaks up?
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Claim the bodies, hell we haven't even heard from the dad or brother. Shouldn't we have heard from them OR seen media and paparazzi outside their homes/jobs. C'mon folks? Not even a statement from the dad...Really?
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Re: No family member has come forward to claim the bodies of the Lanzas.
So wait a min... What if no one does claim the body?

Does that mean he will get a tax payers funeral?

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 Quoting: Children of the Atom


When they sell the assets maybe that will pay for the funeral.
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12/25/2012 08:07 PM
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Re: No family member has come forward to claim the bodies of the Lanzas.
Maybe, out of respect for the families of the victims, they have not returned to Newtown to claim them due to the media frenzy it would cause.

Not a GLP-like answer, but there are motives and reasons other than sinister.
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I think I would stay away for a while as well. And it might be the son can't afford to bury them. funerals are very expensive.

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