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Massacres, one thing in common

 
docsquat

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12/19/2012 08:58 AM
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Massacres, one thing in common
Through history massacres have occurred on a regular basis. Be it the redcoats in Boston or Cherry Hill, the US at Washita, the Nazis at Malmedy, the Russians in 1939 Siberia, US at My Lai, US at Waco, Denver theater, or Newtown the one common factor is the inability of the slain to defend themselves against a slaughter. In many cases the eventual massacred may have started by defending themselves, but once the ammo ran out or the food ran out or the shelter ran out the slaughter occurred.

The second amendment is really the only glue that holds the constitution together. Without the second amendment there is not a way to enforce the constitution. The second amendment wasn't put there by our founding fathers so that we could hunt and target practice.

As for the recent uptick in mass violence you have to look at society in general. None of our actions have consequences. Kids learn through online gaming that you can kill multiple people through guerrilla tactics without any consequences. If a kid plans an attack and gets caught he is probably sent for a mental evaluation and "treated" for a couple of years. Commit a crime using a firearm and you get to go visit your homies at the state pen for a couple of years where you get to watch tv, lift weights, play basketball and become part of a gang. Society. We get to see the violence instantly and then we get to relive every minute detail for weeks after the crime.

The first change that our society needs to make is to have criminals punished. No TV, no basketball, no weightlifting, just road and bridge building and ditch digging. Hard labor for criminals. Actions should have consequences. Get caught planning a massacre? Get punished as though you carried it out. Get caught in the act like the guy with Gabby Giffords or Major Hassan? Your trial should occur before sundown and you should be executed by a group of local citizens before midnight. Hey, the crazies will still do crazy things, but most people knowing that if they get caught they will be severely punished will think twice before committing that crime.

Finally, we can't have easy targets. No more gun free zones. Concealed carry permitted everywhere. There's a reason that these mass shootings don't occur at police stations.
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12/19/2012 09:14 AM
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Re: Massacres, one thing in common
One thing in common in the States.

Pharma drugs.

[link to mnhopkins.blogspot.se]

Follow up on the above.

Confirmed. He not only shopped at the gun store, but at the Pharmacy also.

[link to mnhopkins.blogspot.se]
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12/19/2012 09:24 AM
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Re: Massacres, one thing in common
Another thing most have in common : use of the AR-15 with high capacity magazines.
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12/19/2012 09:28 AM
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Re: Massacres, one thing in common
Another thing most have in common : use of the AR-15 with high capacity magazines.
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Wouldn't matter if he had a five shot magazine, he was jungle taping.
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12/19/2012 09:44 AM

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Re: Massacres, one thing in common
Through history massacres have occurred on a regular basis. Be it the redcoats in Boston or Cherry Hill, the US at Washita, the Nazis at Malmedy, the Russians in 1939 Siberia, US at My Lai, US at Waco, Denver theater, or Newtown the one common factor is the inability of the slain to defend themselves against a slaughter. In many cases the eventual massacred may have started by defending themselves, but once the ammo ran out or the food ran out or the shelter ran out the slaughter occurred.

The second amendment is really the only glue that holds the constitution together. Without the second amendment there is not a way to enforce the constitution. The second amendment wasn't put there by our founding fathers so that we could hunt and target practice.

As for the recent uptick in mass violence you have to look at society in general. None of our actions have consequences. Kids learn through online gaming that you can kill multiple people through guerrilla tactics without any consequences. If a kid plans an attack and gets caught he is probably sent for a mental evaluation and "treated" for a couple of years. Commit a crime using a firearm and you get to go visit your homies at the state pen for a couple of years where you get to watch tv, lift weights, play basketball and become part of a gang. Society. We get to see the violence instantly and then we get to relive every minute detail for weeks after the crime.

The first change that our society needs to make is to have criminals punished. No TV, no basketball, no weightlifting, just road and bridge building and ditch digging. Hard labor for criminals. Actions should have consequences. Get caught planning a massacre? Get punished as though you carried it out. Get caught in the act like the guy with Gabby Giffords or Major Hassan? Your trial should occur before sundown and you should be executed by a group of local citizens before midnight. Hey, the crazies will still do crazy things, but most people knowing that if they get caught they will be severely punished will think twice before committing that crime.

Finally, we can't have easy targets. No more gun free zones. Concealed carry permitted everywhere. There's a reason that these mass shootings don't occur at police stations.
 Quoting: docsquat


That's the way it was in the old days. That would put attorneys out of business practically. Now, it's drawn out for months, years so attorneys can do their work. I can't see them letting instant punishment happen. I agree with you though. When the crimes are that obvious like the Giffords one, punishment should be fast. It's costing taxpayers to drag out trials.

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