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Sodom and Gomorrah weren't destroyed because of rampant gay sex

 
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Sodom and Gomorrah weren't destroyed because of rampant gay sex
They were destroyed for a couple of other reasons:

-They weren't charitable to the poor. The people were haughty and decadent and didn't look after the lowest among them.
-They weren't hospitable to strangers. In fact, they were downright xenophobic and violent toward strangers.
-Their sexual crime was that of rampant rape, not consenting gay sex. It wasn't so much whether or not they were having homosexual relations; they were punished because they were sexually violent.

Seriously. Go look it up. Sodom and Gomorrah are not good examples to use if you're trying to argue against homosexuality from a Biblical standpoint.
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Probably didn't help that they sodomized a couple of angels though. Just sayin....
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Re: Sodom and Gomorrah weren't destroyed because of rampant gay sex
Probably didn't help that they sodomized a couple of angels though. Just sayin....
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They didn't sodomize the angels.

And even if they did, that's partially the point I was trying to make: God blew up the city because they were violent gang rapists, regardless of the gender of the people they were raping.
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Re: Sodom and Gomorrah weren't destroyed because of rampant gay sex
Sounds like africa, and some parts of the U.S.A.
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Re: Sodom and Gomorrah weren't destroyed because of rampant gay sex
You have come to understanding homosexuality is an effect, not the cause of being perverted.
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Thread: Proof fire and brimstone fell on Sodom and Gomorrah!
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Re: Sodom and Gomorrah weren't destroyed because of rampant gay sex
It all adds up.

Stop defending gays.
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Willful ignorance on the part of good 'Christians.'

Whatever floats your boat.
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Re: Sodom and Gomorrah weren't destroyed because of rampant gay sex
Probably didn't help that they sodomized a couple of angels though. Just sayin....
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They didn't sodomize the angels.

And even if they did, that's partially the point I was trying to make: God blew up the city because they were violent gang rapists, regardless of the gender of the people they were raping.
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Oh...
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My bad.
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Re: Sodom and Gomorrah weren't destroyed because of rampant gay sex
Probably didn't help that they sodomized a couple of angels though. Just sayin....
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They didn't sodomize the angels.

And even if they did, that's partially the point I was trying to make: God blew up the city because they were violent gang rapists, regardless of the gender of the people they were raping.
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Oh...
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My bad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7486421


Is it seriously that difficult to understand that God punished them for being rapists rather than punishing them for having consenting male-on-male relations? Or are you just being ignorant on purpose?
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Willful ignorance on the part of good 'Christians.'

Whatever floats your boat.
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You do bad in staying rebel. Harming yourself, foremost.
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Probably didn't help that they sodomized a couple of angels though. Just sayin....
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They didn't sodomize the angels.

And even if they did, that's partially the point I was trying to make: God blew up the city because they were violent gang rapists, regardless of the gender of the people they were raping.
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Oh...
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My bad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7486421


Is it seriously that difficult to understand that God punished them for being rapists rather than punishing them for having consenting male-on-male relations? Or are you just being ignorant on purpose?
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God did nothing when Ham raped Noah, he saved him from the flood just so he could do that, you must be so proud.
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According to God, engaging in homosexuality is vile (Rom. 1:27), unholy and
profane (1 Tim. 1:10), and those who do so will not inherit the kingdom of God
(1 Cor. 6:9).

What was your point again OP?
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Re: Sodom and Gomorrah weren't destroyed because of rampant gay sex
Probably didn't help that they sodomized a couple of angels though. Just sayin....
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They didn't sodomize the angels.

And even if they did, that's partially the point I was trying to make: God blew up the city because they were violent gang rapists, regardless of the gender of the people they were raping.
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Oh...
scratching



My bad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7486421


Is it seriously that difficult to understand that God punished them for being rapists rather than punishing them for having consenting male-on-male relations? Or are you just being ignorant on purpose?
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I seriously know very little about this matter, nor do I care. My post was just a poor attempt at being humorous. Good day to you, Sir.
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Re: Sodom and Gomorrah weren't destroyed because of rampant gay sex
Probably didn't help that they sodomized a couple of angels though. Just sayin....
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They didn't sodomize the angels.

And even if they did, that's partially the point I was trying to make: God blew up the city because they were violent gang rapists, regardless of the gender of the people they were raping.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277549


Oh...
scratching



My bad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7486421


Is it seriously that difficult to understand that God punished them for being rapists rather than punishing them for having consenting male-on-male relations? Or are you just being ignorant on purpose?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277549


God purged them with fire for being perverted in all possible ways, being homo just one of them.
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Re: Sodom and Gomorrah weren't destroyed because of rampant gay sex
They were destroyed for a couple of other reasons:

-They weren't charitable to the poor. The people were haughty and decadent and didn't look after the lowest among them.
-They weren't hospitable to strangers. In fact, they were downright xenophobic and violent toward strangers.
-Their sexual crime was that of rampant rape, not consenting gay sex. It wasn't so much whether or not they were having homosexual relations; they were punished because they were sexually violent.

Seriously. Go look it up. Sodom and Gomorrah are not good examples to use if you're trying to argue against homosexuality from a Biblical standpoint.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277549


This is correct OP. Consensual gay sex is just another sin. I try to tell people that. Like any sin you only have to acknowledge this to God and give yourself to Him. Problem with gay community is they get mad and only want to justify their sin instead of confessing it. But the black hearts of those in Sodom and Gomorrah was something else. That will bring the kind of judgment they got. As we all sin, any of it can send you into outer darkness but when you become overtly evil as they were, watch out for falling rocks.
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Re: Sodom and Gomorrah weren't destroyed because of rampant gay sex
According to God, engaging in homosexuality is vile (Rom. 1:27), unholy and
profane (1 Tim. 1:10), and those who do so will not inherit the kingdom of God
(1 Cor. 6:9).

What was your point again OP?
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Yes, even if homosexuality isn't directly and specifically mentioned regarding Sodom and Gommorah.

We must read all the Bible, to find out how God views homosexuality.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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Re: Sodom and Gomorrah weren't destroyed because of rampant gay sex
Probably didn't help that they sodomized a couple of angels though. Just sayin....
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They didn't sodomize the angels.

And even if they did, that's partially the point I was trying to make: God blew up the city because they were violent gang rapists, regardless of the gender of the people they were raping.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277549


men and boys were trying to get into Lot's house to sodomize these male angels. they kept on trying even when they were blinded by God. this is about homosexuality. they did not want anyone else but men.
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oh bs, its the same all through history each are destroyed or enslaved in turn because they wont worship this space god and bring him the gold, which one assumes he uses to prolong his life.


Consider how many times in history the gold went "missing", nazis, mayans, ..... People dead, gold gone.


bad news usa, your gold production has dropped off a cliff, god really dont need you any more.
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Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. —Jude 1:7

Yep. Faggotry was just a part.
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How about using the word of God to back up your argument? It would add a lot more credibility not that I agree with what you are saying.
The pawns are in place, the stage is set. The question is, are you ready?

Righteous anger and Zeal does not equate to hate,pride or arrogance and are fully justified.

Soon, all the slaves will be released, for the Jubilee approaches.

Let them give glory unto the LORD, and declare his praise in the islands. Isaiah 42:12

And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins. Genesis 35:11 America(Maneesah), Britain(Ephraim) and the Prophesied Common-Wealth(Company of nations)

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God did nothing when Ham raped Noah, he saved him from the flood just so he could do that, you must be so proud.
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You must be so ignorant. Ham didn't rape Noah.
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Ham committed sexual acts against his father, Noah?

I always thought the little shit did some bad stuff...but, cmon...Ham raped his father?

Please detail!
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Willful ignorance on the part of good 'Christians.'

Whatever floats your boat.
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we already KNOW WTF "floats your boat." rofl
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Re: Sodom and Gomorrah weren't destroyed because of rampant gay sex
Ham uncovered the nakedness of his Father which is a phrase for committing incest with his mother.
The pawns are in place, the stage is set. The question is, are you ready?

Righteous anger and Zeal does not equate to hate,pride or arrogance and are fully justified.

Soon, all the slaves will be released, for the Jubilee approaches.

Let them give glory unto the LORD, and declare his praise in the islands. Isaiah 42:12

And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins. Genesis 35:11 America(Maneesah), Britain(Ephraim) and the Prophesied Common-Wealth(Company of nations)

Saul/Paul, the false Apostle.
[link to www.judaismvschristianity.com]
[link to www.jesuswordsonly.com]

The transplanted Throne of King David to Ireland,Scotland, and England fulfilling Ezekiel 21:25-27 Prophecy.
[link to www.henrymakow.com]
[link to www.giveshare.org]

The "Lost" Ten Tribes of Israel...Found!
[link to stevenmcollins.com]

Proof that the Law of Moses is still in effect.
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com] 777
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Re: Sodom and Gomorrah weren't destroyed because of rampant gay sex
Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. —Jude 1:7

Yep. Faggotry was just a part.
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Once homosexuality has been accepted we know that all other forms of perversion are happening from historical records from Rome and Greece. Homosexuality was the last straw. It usually is when a society is about to suffer a downfall.
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Ham uncovered the nakedness of his Father which is a phrase for committing incest with his mother.
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Then why did the other son's go in and cover up their father? Sounds like Noah was naked. Also the son's backed in and didn't look at Noah. I don't see where this has anything to do with their mother.

Genesis 9:23

And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.


This just sounds like it is. Noah was naked and Ham saw it and possible did something(??). But it was something about Ham that became a problem for his line to be cursed. The Bible doesn't mention what it is though.
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Is it seriously that difficult to understand that God punished them for being rapists rather than punishing them for having consenting male-on-male relations? Or are you just being ignorant on purpose?
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You're the one being ignorant on purpose! God calls 'male-on-male' or 'female-on-female' relations "giving themselves over to strange flesh".

God used their suffering the vengeance of eternal fire as an example to the rest of us. Oh, and sodomites aren't the only unrepentant sinners to share that fate... fornicaters will too... that means people who hook-up with people who aren't their spouses. Look, we're all sinners, the important thing is that you need to repent of your sin, realize it's wrong and admit it to God and ask his forgiveness.

If you're sincere, he'll wipe your slate clean of ALL sin and give you his righteousness which we all need to get to heaven, then he will give you new holy desires.

"Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire." Jude 1:7

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So if you read the story whole story of Sodom and Gomorrah, it stars with 3 angels visiting Abraham. Abraham argues with them and gets them to agree to save the whole area for the sake of 10 good people

Genesis 18:32 Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak just once more. What if only ten can be found there?”

He answered, “For the sake of ten, I will not destroy it.”

I should interject here and say the flood was caused by human angel relations. Genesis 6:4 etc...

Now how many good people were in Sodom??? Lets Count shall we?

Gen 19:12 The two men said to Lot, “Do you have anyone else here—sons-in-law, sons or daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of here

You have Lot and his wife thats 2

Sons in law - "Sons" is plural means at least 2

Then next we have sons witch is plural means at least 2

Daughters again plural at least 2

Then we have anyone else, this would include servants slaves etc and is very likely to be more than 2 as well, since Abraham had hundreds in his service. See the previous chapter of Genesis for elaboration


thats how many people? that would be at least 10.

Hold on a minute, didn't God say he was not going to destroy them if there was 10 people.

Why did God change the rules? Because of the act that the men wanted the Angels. They were going to be left alone, because there was clearly at least 10 people there

The story changed not because they were gay, not because they were evil, they already knew that. That is why God sent the angels to see for them selves. It was the fact they tried to have sex with the angels, that they were destroyed.
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Jude 1:6-8

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.


What did they do they went after strange flesh. What was the strange flesh? the flesh of the Angels
Ecclesiastes 1:9-11
What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun. Is there anything of which one can say,“Look! This is something new”? It was here already, long ago; it was here before our time. No one remembers the former generations, and even those yet to come will not be remembered by those who follow them.


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