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| 13th-Century (OP) User ID: 28715327 12/19/2012 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From that article, this interesting, very interesting account... Quote: One brave teacher, Kaitlin Roig, bundled a bunch of children into a bathroom and locked the door. What's interesting about her testimony to ABC News is that when police arrived and asked her to open the door, she refused, saying that "if they were really cops, they'd know where to find keys to open the door." In addition, she requested that they slide their badges under the door. Now, this is generally a smart thing to do in any and all interactions with the police, especially in the US. But to have the wherewithal to do so under such traumatic circumstances strongly suggests that Ms. Roig had logically deduced by that point that multiple perpetrators were involved, and that they were either impersonating police officers or were indistinguishable from SWAT team police commandos, either in the way they dressed or the way they behaved upon entering the building. It also reminds us just how narrow the time window of the actual shooting was. The shooting appears to have barely ended when men knocked on that bathroom door and told Ms. Roig they were police. |
| Ralph--a house dog User ID: 25802009 12/19/2012 12:55 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read this! A concise non fanciful account of events that clearly examines the many questions raised. PLEASE PIN Last Edited by Ralph--a house dog on 12/19/2012 01:04 PM "Who decides?" ---Robert A. Heinlein [link to www.westcoasttruth.com] "Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light" ----Dylan Thomas |
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| 13th-Century (OP) User ID: 28715327 12/19/2012 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is the famous (or infamous now) Parker family, smiling for the cameras with Mr. President. The father did the acting job which over 60,000 people on GLP have now viewed, as of yesterday. I also saw him and his wife grab their 10 minutes of fame with a Katie Couric interview, and it was putrid, all right. I really don't think Parker is interested in the facts, do you? As for Mr. President... he's lovin' it. Holder wanted to go after Americans' guns back in 2009, so the story goes. SMILE! ![]() |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2053667 12/19/2012 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is the famous (or infamous now) Parker family, smiling for the cameras with Mr. President. Quoting: 13th-Century The father did the acting job which over 60,000 people on GLP have now viewed, as of yesterday. I also saw him and his wife grab their 10 minutes of fame with a Katie Couric interview, and it was putrid, all right. I really don't think Parker is interested in the facts, do you? As for Mr. President... he's lovin' it. Holder wanted to go after Americans' guns back in 2009, so the story goes. SMILE! :Parkers Photo-op: Is this picture for real?? |
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| 13th-Century (OP) User ID: 28715327 12/19/2012 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is the famous (or infamous now) Parker family, smiling for the cameras with Mr. President. Quoting: 13th-Century The father did the acting job which over 60,000 people on GLP have now viewed, as of yesterday. I also saw him and his wife grab their 10 minutes of fame with a Katie Couric interview, and it was putrid, all right. I really don't think Parker is interested in the facts, do you? As for Mr. President... he's lovin' it. Holder wanted to go after Americans' guns back in 2009, so the story goes. SMILE! ![]() Is this picture for real?? Link for photo, one of several in this Daily Mail spread: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28423865 12/19/2012 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is the famous (or infamous now) Parker family, smiling for the cameras with Mr. President. Quoting: 13th-Century The father did the acting job which over 60,000 people on GLP have now viewed, as of yesterday. I also saw him and his wife grab their 10 minutes of fame with a Katie Couric interview, and it was putrid, all right. I really don't think Parker is interested in the facts, do you? As for Mr. President... he's lovin' it. Holder wanted to go after Americans' guns back in 2009, so the story goes. SMILE! :Parkers Photo-op: Is this picture for real?? Yes, it is for real ! Barry Soetoro is smiling his face off ! Of all the parents this one "actor" is the only one I've seen photographed with Obama. Why not the other parents ? This one family also has a facebook account set up asking for donations from the public, so he's making a lot of money from this. Someone put the link on earlier. Things that make you go Hmmmm! |
| New Age Messiah User ID: 9993365 12/19/2012 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My favorite sentence... And the whole article is PACKED with EXCELLENT information. "Now remember, all of this confusion somehow resulted from a single guy going into a school and shooting children and teachers and then shooting himself, all within three minutes. Surely it should have been fairly easy to rapidly and concretely identify the details of such a crime and the scene." [link to www.sott.net] This guy should get a Pulitzer. "It Took Me A While To Realise, But N.A.M. Is The Greatest Poster On This, Or Any Other Forum." |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2053667 12/19/2012 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is the famous (or infamous now) Parker family, smiling for the cameras with Mr. President. Quoting: 13th-Century The father did the acting job which over 60,000 people on GLP have now viewed, as of yesterday. I also saw him and his wife grab their 10 minutes of fame with a Katie Couric interview, and it was putrid, all right. I really don't think Parker is interested in the facts, do you? As for Mr. President... he's lovin' it. Holder wanted to go after Americans' guns back in 2009, so the story goes. SMILE! :Parkers Photo-op: Is this picture for real?? Yes, it is for real ! Barry Soetoro is smiling his face off ! Of all the parents this one "actor" is the only one I've seen photographed with Obama. Why not the other parents ? This one family also has a facebook account set up asking for donations from the public, so he's making a lot of money from this. Someone put the link on earlier. Things that make you go Hmmmm! Wow this is just upsetting and it makes me sick there baby was just riddled with bullets how in the hell wtf I don't get it. All along I have related there strange behavior to being mormon. I grew up mormon and they have a unique view on death. With that said this picture is far beyond how people grieve. |
| 13th-Century (OP) User ID: 28715327 12/19/2012 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sandy Hook Shooting: Lt. Vance Needs to Arrest CNN for Spreading Disinfo [link to willyloman.wordpress.com (secure)] Quote: According to a CNN timeline of events of the Sandy Hook shooting, it took police 20 minutes to arrive on scene at an elementary school live shooter event. The other day, Lt. Vance promised to arrest people who were “perpetrating information” or “disinformation” about the case on social media outlets... ... Well Lt.? What say you now? These clowns are saying your cops took their sweet time responding to a call about shootings at an elementary school and it’s been “liked” on Facebook 300 times and Tweeted 11 times thus far. What do you think about that?... ...If you need me to investigate the address of the CNN headquarters, I can do that for you, but my guess is, you guys can figure it out. That is of course unless you wish to revive your statement about when the first call came in and how long it took the local and state police to respond to a massacre at an elementary school. I will be waiting to read about the pending arrests at CNN. |
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| 13th-Century (OP) User ID: 28715327 12/19/2012 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jon Rappoport is a longtime alternative news writer, on health issues, as well as politics. He has several articles up now about Sandy Hook. This one targets the media and law enforcement spin: [link to jonrappoport.wordpress.com] Quotes: …Meanwhile, the police in Newtown are lying. Here is how that plays out. We are entering another familiar phase of the standard mass-murder scenario. It goes like this: “A portrait is beginning to emerge of the killer…” With Adam Lanza, it starts with “loner, shy, awkward, different, very smart.” It now proceeds to “goth, computer nerd, carried briefcase not backpack, played video games.” The latter terms are meant to connect the audience, the public, to the 1999 Columbine School mass murders, the touchstone of school shootings, the gold standard. The so-called “trenchcoat mafia”; Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, the “goth shooters.” Next, we may hear Adam Lanza was bullied. These are all synthetic descriptions about Lanza, manufactured to cue the audience to make certain assumptions about a person they don’t know at all. The “emerging portrait” is a necessary step in the media presentation. It assures the public that they can make at least partial sense out of the killer. ...But the media and law-enforcement presentation requires some sort of motive. It’s part of the planned sequence of events that occurs in the aftermath of mass murders. It needs to be there. The public is supposed to digest this motive and either accept it or grudgingly acknowledge it might have played a role in the killings. It’s better than a vacuum. The public is not supposed to be left with a vacuum. THAT'S RIGHT, RAPPOPORT. IF THE PUBLIC ISN'T PROVIDED WITH A WHOLE, CONVINCING, FABRICATED PICTURE, THEY MIGHT START ASKING QUESTIONS, AND LOOKING FOR ANSWERS -- OUTSIDE THE OFFICIAL STORY. ![]() Last Edited by 13th-Century on 12/19/2012 02:02 PM |
| 13th-Century (OP) User ID: 28715327 12/19/2012 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Second Excerpt from Rappoport: Here’s the capper: Newtown USA is the perfect town. Everybody is happy there. It’s the best place to live. People are friendly. There is virtually no serious crime. It’s so safe. It’s Christmas season. Decorations have already been hung in the streets. It’s the wonderful holiday in the wonderful community. Everybody likes everybody. What’s the takeaway? If this horrible, horrible thing happened in Newtown, no one is safe in America, anywhere. Who wants to promote that message? The same people who promote the imminent threat of terrorism, in order to wipe out freedom, to install wall to wall surveillance of everything we do and say and write, 24/7, to remove guns from citizens, to increase dependence on government for life and survival. We need to call it all: ![]() |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26384064 12/19/2012 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From that article, this interesting, very interesting account... Quoting: 13th-Century Quote: One brave teacher, Kaitlin Roig, bundled a bunch of children into a bathroom and locked the door. What's interesting about her testimony to ABC News is that when police arrived and asked her to open the door, she refused, saying that "if they were really cops, they'd know where to find keys to open the door." In addition, she requested that they slide their badges under the door. Now, this is generally a smart thing to do in any and all interactions with the police, especially in the US. But to have the wherewithal to do so under such traumatic circumstances strongly suggests that Ms. Roig had logically deduced by that point that multiple perpetrators were involved, and that they were either impersonating police officers or were indistinguishable from SWAT team police commandos, either in the way they dressed or the way they behaved upon entering the building. It also reminds us just how narrow the time window of the actual shooting was. The shooting appears to have barely ended when men knocked on that bathroom door and told Ms. Roig they were police. try to refrain from assuming too much. its very rational for that teacher to react the way she did to the initial contact with police without that teacher having "logically deduced" any of your claims. in other words, kudos to that teacher for having the presence of mind to not open the door for another/others who might have really been the shooter(s)utilizing simple deception to gain access to the bathroom, especially since the knock on the door came "too soon" after the shooting ceased. honestly it makes a lot of sense that the police arrived so shortly considering this was a school massacre where the perpetrated violence was within the physical structure of the school where more innocents were harbored in terror. "no threats outside of the school (anymore), lets check whats inside...also lets not waste a moment, because their might be more children in harms way." - that is my logical deduction of this single scene in the larger picture from the police's point of view. what you have suggested is all of YOUR own logical deduction that is purely skeptical at best and misleading at worst and not in any way that teacher's. ![]() |
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| 13th-Century (OP) User ID: 28715327 12/19/2012 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From that article, this interesting, very interesting account... Quoting: 13th-Century Quote: One brave teacher, Kaitlin Roig, bundled a bunch of children into a bathroom and locked the door. What's interesting about her testimony to ABC News is that when police arrived and asked her to open the door, she refused, saying that "if they were really cops, they'd know where to find keys to open the door." In addition, she requested that they slide their badges under the door. Now, this is generally a smart thing to do in any and all interactions with the police, especially in the US. But to have the wherewithal to do so under such traumatic circumstances strongly suggests that Ms. Roig had logically deduced by that point that multiple perpetrators were involved, and that they were either impersonating police officers or were indistinguishable from SWAT team police commandos, either in the way they dressed or the way they behaved upon entering the building. It also reminds us just how narrow the time window of the actual shooting was. The shooting appears to have barely ended when men knocked on that bathroom door and told Ms. Roig they were police. try to refrain from assuming too much. its very rational for that teacher to react the way she did to the initial contact with police without that teacher having "logically deduced" any of your claims. in other words, kudos to that teacher for having the presence of mind to not open the door for another/others who might have really been the shooter(s)utilizing simple deception to gain access to the bathroom, especially since the knock on the door came "too soon" after the shooting ceased. honestly it makes a lot of sense that the police arrived so shortly considering this was a school massacre where the perpetrated violence was within the physical structure of the school where more innocents were harbored in terror. "no threats outside of the school (anymore), lets check whats inside...also lets not waste a moment, because their might be more children in harms way." - that is my logical deduction of this single scene in the larger picture from the police's point of view. what you have suggested is all of YOUR own logical deduction that is purely skeptical at best and misleading at worst and not in any way that teacher's. ![]() Way wrong on this, dude. The shooting started at 9:30 a.m. According to Lt. Vance (a gushing fount of truth) and the ** Official Story **... all the shooting was over in under 5 minutes, and ** Lone Gunman Adam Vance ** was dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound on the floor of a classroom. The police arrived at 9:50 a.m. - 15 minutes after the gunshots ended and after Adam was presumably dead. The police took their own sweet time to get there, pal. Maybe because they knew this was a drill, and got all confused-like when they realized it had actually gone LIVE. Of course, it went LIVE when the ** Professional Hit Team ** went into action. |