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Silver's Outlook for 2013

 
No Dhimmi
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Silver's Outlook for 2013
The 2003-2012 silver price in all major currencies is shown in the graph below.

Question: When will silver cross $50?

Answer from David Morgan: It is likely to happen in 2013. The next leg up is starting right now, although we probably will not see a substantial acceleration in the leg up. Obviously, as soon as $50 is crossed an acceleration can be expected. It remains difficult to forecast how fast the acceleration will be.

Question: How much is silver currently undervalued (compared to the money supply)?

Answer from David Morgan: One of the realistic approaches would value 700 dollar an ounce. Source: a recent video from professor Ryan Jordan.
Question: I keep my silver in the US. Should I also store it outside the US?

Answer from Mark O'Byrne: We advise clients not to store bullion in the US. In fact, Switzerland remains the safest place in the world to store bullion.

Silver in 2013


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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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Stackin T
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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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“Buy gold, buy silver, have faith.” So says Author Darryl Robert Schoon. Darryl says the coming crash of our monetary system will bring a transition away from the current debt & death paradigm – and what will emerge is “something far different from anything we’ve seen in human history.” The people who have been running the world have lost control and they know it. They have backed themselves into a corner – and we will soon see better days for humanity.


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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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Now the Silver manipulators are gaining a foothold to do the same to the price of copper!


JPMorgan Wins Approval for First U.S. Physical Copper ETF


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Last Edited by No Dhimmi on 12/19/2012 03:09 PM
Background of my avatar: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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Now the Silver manipulators are gaining a foothold to do the same to the price of copper!


JPMorgan Wins Approval for First U.S. Physical Copper ETF


[link to www.silverdoctors.com]
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


Yes, ETF's like GLD, SLV and this new copper ETF are merely price suppression mechanisms disguised as investment vehicles. There is NO price discovery in the marketplace today; the current system is specifically designed to NOT allow it, but instead allow for price management to a degree that few people would believe. But price suppression always fails, and when it fails in earnest in the silver market (the primary focus of the manipulators, for reasons that are beyond the scope of this post), the public will finally begin to understand that what they were taught was money simply isn't.

In 2008, I predicted that the silver price would reach $1,000 an ounce within 10 years, and I stand by that assessment. Learn the math, run the fractals, and the inevitability of what today would be considered stratospheric price levels for silver will be quite easily achievable in the absence of the omnipresent and powerful price suppression.

It's always hard to time these things, but I strongly believe that silver will blow past $50 an ounce next year and never look back. And within 5 years, the idea of $50 an ounce silver will seem as ridiculous as using colored pieces of paper as money.
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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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While JPM et al continue to gouge those still hopelessly trading paper metal, we stackers delight in the opportunity presented to us again today.

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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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stack some palladium n platinum
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i was told this time last year silver was to break $60 by the end of this year.
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Yes, ETF's like GLD, SLV and this new copper ETF are merely price suppression mechanisms disguised as investment vehicles. There is NO price discovery in the marketplace today; the current system is specifically designed to NOT allow it, but instead allow for price management to a degree that few people would believe. But price suppression always fails, and when it fails in earnest in the silver market (the primary focus of the manipulators, for reasons that are beyond the scope of this post), the public will finally begin to understand that what they were taught was money simply isn't.

In 2008, I predicted that the silver price would reach $1,000 an ounce within 10 years, and I stand by that assessment. Learn the math, run the fractals, and the inevitability of what today would be considered stratospheric price levels for silver will be quite easily achievable in the absence of the omnipresent and powerful price suppression.

It's always hard to time these things, but I strongly believe that silver will blow past $50 an ounce next year and never look back. And within 5 years, the idea of $50 an ounce silver will seem as ridiculous as using colored pieces of paper as money.
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lmao
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Andrew Maguire -

“One of the things I wanted to talk to you about today was something I saw in Shanghai early this morning. Eric, I had to double-check, in fact I had to triple-check. We’re talking about the kind of divergence (in the physical market) now that’s unprecedented.

Today I looked at the opening premiums and there was a $2.89 disparity in silver. I’m not talking gold. When spot silver was trading in London at $29.61, silver actually traded at $32.50 (in Shanghai).

If you take an equivalent Comex contract, and I realize spot isn’t Comex, but if you take an equivalent 5,000 ounce Comex contract, that equates to a $14,430 premium per contract. I mean it’s ludicrous. There are reasons why you may or may not have a premium in Shanghai, but not to that extreme.

Shanghai (softened but) still closed at a $6,100 premium to equivalent Comex contracts. So what we’re saying here is that the divergence has now become ridiculous. I mean these high and low closing premiums literally illustrate the massive divergence between the paper market (and the physical market)
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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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I CANT FIND SILVER ROUNDS FOR LESS THEN 38, SO THATS WHAT I PAID, EXPENSIVE, BUT I JUST GRAB STUFF FROM OUR TOWN DUMP GIVEAWAY SECTION AND PUT ON EBAY, THEN BUY SILVER, FUN FUN FUN
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i was told this time last year silver was to break $60 by the end of this year.
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Funny, that. My modest stack of silver is pretty as ever, reems of dialogue about riding upwards hi-ho silver, yet there it is, pretty as ever impervious to opinion dancing in jerky centimeters like a brittle old lady with a cane year in year out.

No offense, that's how it is.
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I don't listen to the negative anti- silver trolls

While I got into silver late, I still got my first 300 oz at $18.00 and feeling great about it!
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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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Should be taking off next leg up. Still a good time to buy before then tho.
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bought at $4.50 in 2000. LOTS of it..
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I AM STRONGMAN SHELFORD

AND I APPROVE this silvertard thread


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Priceless

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Background of my avatar: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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Alasdair Macleod

“We are quite likely to have a failure on COMEX in the silver market”

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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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I want one more leg down below 28 as we see Dec 2011

[link to www.finviz.com]

Then is buy time big time! Then is the market turn around to the upside big time thru 50++

Wider war in the mideast will mean the end of the petrodollar that is the current dollar peg signalling a new economic order. Silver would take off until the new dollar is in place, same as happened in 1970 with the London Gold Pool when the dollar was unpegged from PM and a new economic order was began, the petrodollar.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Dhimmi, got a sorta related question...

How the hell can people pay, on average, 6-10 dollars over spot?

let me say this first, I buy local....but

being off for the holidays, I hit E-bay...I figured with the drop over the last week I may find a deal or two....

hell no, on average everything that sold was, at minimum 5.50 over spot....with most falling in at the 6-10 range

just boggles my mind
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what's physical Silver bringing in your area

Silver American Eagles?
Canadian Maples?
Australian Kooks?
Englehard Prospectors?
Generic Rounds?

how about bars?
1oz, 10oz...would you even buy a 100oz'er?

90%?


or Gold:
Krugerrand 1/4oz, 1/2oz, 1oz?
Gold Maples?
Gold Buffaloes?
American Numismatic Gold?

What kinda premiums are you having to pay in your area?

SAE's were bringing $36-38 here in South Carolina on Saturday.....Haven't priced much Gold lately
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Dhimmi, got a sorta related question...

How the hell can people pay, on average, 6-10 dollars over spot?

let me say this first, I buy local....but

being off for the holidays, I hit E-bay...I figured with the drop over the last week I may find a deal or two....

hell no, on average everything that sold was, at minimum 5.50 over spot....with most falling in at the 6-10 range

just boggles my mind
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30659794


I strongly suggest you avoid buying on E-bay; there's quite a bit of fake silver and gold being sold there nowadays. Find a good, local coin shop you trust or, failing that, places like Apmex and Tulving are reputable and can be used with confidence (if you're in the U.S.). As you can see if you go check out the Apmex site, ASE's are currently running $3 over spot. Paying $5.50 or more over spot doesn't make much sense.
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Dhimmi, got a sorta related question...

How the hell can people pay, on average, 6-10 dollars over spot?

let me say this first, I buy local....but


being off for the holidays, I hit E-bay...I figured with the drop over the last week I may find a deal or two....

hell no, on average everything that sold was, at minimum 5.50 over spot....with most falling in at the 6-10 range

just boggles my mind
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30659794


I strongly suggest you avoid buying on E-bay; there's quite a bit of fake silver and gold being sold there nowadays. Find a good, local coin shop you trust or, failing that, places like Apmex and Tulving are reputable and can be used with confidence (if you're in the U.S.). As you can see if you go check out the Apmex site, ASE's are currently running $3 over spot. Paying $5.50 or more over spot doesn't make much sense.
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guess you missed my 3rd line...huh
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Yes, ETF's like GLD, SLV and this new copper ETF are merely price suppression mechanisms disguised as investment vehicles. There is NO price discovery in the marketplace today; the current system is specifically designed to NOT allow it, but instead allow for price management to a degree that few people would believe. But price suppression always fails, and when it fails in earnest in the silver market (the primary focus of the manipulators, for reasons that are beyond the scope of this post), the public will finally begin to understand that what they were taught was money simply isn't.

In 2008, I predicted that the silver price would reach $1,000 an ounce within 10 years, and I stand by that assessment. Learn the math, run the fractals, and the inevitability of what today would be considered stratospheric price levels for silver will be quite easily achievable in the absence of the omnipresent and powerful price suppression.

It's always hard to time these things, but I strongly believe that silver will blow past $50 an ounce next year and never look back. And within 5 years, the idea of $50 an ounce silver will seem as ridiculous as using colored pieces of paper as money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30272530


lmao
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I'm glad you find my post funny. A lot of people also found my advice funny when I told them to sell their U.S.-based real estate in 2005 and to short a lot of big financial names like Citigroup, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in late 2007. Some of those people now pay me to manage their money for them.
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Dhimmi, got a sorta related question...

How the hell can people pay, on average, 6-10 dollars over spot?

let me say this first, I buy local....but


being off for the holidays, I hit E-bay...I figured with the drop over the last week I may find a deal or two....

hell no, on average everything that sold was, at minimum 5.50 over spot....with most falling in at the 6-10 range

just boggles my mind
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30659794


I strongly suggest you avoid buying on E-bay; there's quite a bit of fake silver and gold being sold there nowadays. Find a good, local coin shop you trust or, failing that, places like Apmex and Tulving are reputable and can be used with confidence (if you're in the U.S.). As you can see if you go check out the Apmex site, ASE's are currently running $3 over spot. Paying $5.50 or more over spot doesn't make much sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30693483



guess you missed my 3rd line...huh
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30659794


No, I saw that, but I was trying to give an answer that would both help you and also help newbies who might not know much about investing in silver. Most people still know very little about precious metals investing, actually. You clearly don't fall into that camp, but I still hoped I could help out.
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Dhimmi, got a sorta related question...

How the hell can people pay, on average, 6-10 dollars over spot?

let me say this first, I buy local....but


being off for the holidays, I hit E-bay...I figured with the drop over the last week I may find a deal or two....

hell no, on average everything that sold was, at minimum 5.50 over spot....with most falling in at the 6-10 range

just boggles my mind
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I strongly suggest you avoid buying on E-bay; there's quite a bit of fake silver and gold being sold there nowadays. Find a good, local coin shop you trust or, failing that, places like Apmex and Tulving are reputable and can be used with confidence (if you're in the U.S.). As you can see if you go check out the Apmex site, ASE's are currently running $3 over spot. Paying $5.50 or more over spot doesn't make much sense.
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guess you missed my 3rd line...huh
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No, I saw that, but I was trying to give an answer that would both help you and also help newbies who might not know much about investing in silver. Most people still know very little about precious metals investing, actually. You clearly don't fall into that camp, but I still hoped I could help out.
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And GOOD advice at that!!
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Re: Silver's Outlook for 2013
Dhimmi, got a sorta related question...

How the hell can people pay, on average, 6-10 dollars over spot?

let me say this first, I buy local....but

being off for the holidays, I hit E-bay...I figured with the drop over the last week I may find a deal or two....

hell no, on average everything that sold was, at minimum 5.50 over spot....with most falling in at the 6-10 range

just boggles my mind
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My local dealer only charges about $3 over spot so I use him (if he has SE in stock) at times he is sold out so I use APMEX only for those times I want to assure I stack then the price is low. I do hate to pay more than $4 over spot!
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Re: Silver's Outlook for 2013
Dhimmi, got a sorta related question...

How the hell can people pay, on average, 6-10 dollars over spot?

let me say this first, I buy local....but

being off for the holidays, I hit E-bay...I figured with the drop over the last week I may find a deal or two....

hell no, on average everything that sold was, at minimum 5.50 over spot....with most falling in at the 6-10 range

just boggles my mind
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My local dealer only charges about $3 over spot so I use him (if he has SE in stock) at times he is sold out so I use APMEX only for those times I want to assure I stack then the price is low. I do hate to pay more than $4 over spot!
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Got 3 guys I do biz with myself, ain't nothing like paying and walking out the door with it!

Do you ever buy any "Art Bar" type stuff...sometimes I see some at closer to spot than SAE's or Englehard, JM stuff?
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So far, I mostly buy the SAEs - just love the quality and look. I did buy a few MS-70 proof ones, for gifts, not investments. Planning on heading to the dealer later this week for about 60 more!
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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
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Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.

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