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HOW MANY HERE TRULY BELIEVE IN LIBERTY?

 
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I have and maintain rights.

If I was afraid to exercise my right to speak out, I would lose my right to keep and bear arms.

If I was afraid to exercise my right to keep and bear arms, I would lose my right to speak out.

They win when we let fear make decisions for us. Liberty and fear are like oil and water.
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But, a little deception peddled to the enemies of justice is a good thing. I'll remain anonymous.
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Seems on the same premise that you should shut the fuck up.
It's not YOUR country being talked about, douchebag.
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So, I'm not allowed to interfere, but Americans are allowed to kill people in any country in the world?

Interesting!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30254321


Boy, talk about ignorant fool...
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Instead of posting such a stupid line, why don't you tell us why I'm an ignorant fool.

You dumbasses are not interfering with foreign countries?
Truth hurts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30254321


[link to townhall.com]

Obama's buddy Bill Ayer, a communist, once said that to make communism work in USA is to kill 25,000,000 Americans...

That's why we have 2nd amendment...
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An intelligent specie doesn't need semi-automatic guns. 1 in 10,000 that dies every year for being "free" is a hefty price. And on top of everything, the USA is the least free country in the Western world.

About time you guys put the Bill of Rights in the trash can. This is 2012. The far West era is over since a long time.
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award for worst comment in history goes to... this moron from belgium. stand up and take a bow. there are some damn good beers that come from belgium though
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no.. the complete opposite.. get rid of ALL LAW and we'd be free. Just saying how we've been funneled into this reality doing that would create a hell hole here and now.
 Quoting: Dukembg


Ok, I got ya..I think.

You ARE for freedom, total freedom.....but you think right now in human history, if we had total freedom, we would eff it up?
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


Correct. All the different lives and knowledge we gained will not mix very well without law...
 Quoting: Dukembg


Have you read 5000 years leap book? It explains why founding father set up U.S. Constitution and where they got ideas from in order to protect liberty. Unfortunately, that went away a long time ago when Federal Reserve was formed... Pay tax or go to jail...
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Yes sir!

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An intelligent specie doesn't need semi-automatic guns. 1 in 10,000 that dies every year for being "free" is a hefty price. And on top of everything, the USA is the least free country in the Western world.

About time you guys put the Bill of Rights in the trash can. This is 2012. The far West era is over since a long time.
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Let's see Belgium...y'all are considering Euthanasia for Minors and Alzheimer's patients....yeah you guys have a totally evolved society over there...

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They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

Where liberty dwells, there is my country.

Benjamin Franklin (attributed), letter to Benjamin Vaughn,

t is a common observation here that our cause is the cause of all mankind, and that we are fighting for their liberty in defending our own.

Benjamin Franklin, letter to Samuel Cooper, May 1, 1777
March 14, 1783

WAKE UP AMERICA
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"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

Where liberty dwells, there is my country.

Benjamin Franklin (attributed), letter to Benjamin Vaughn,

t is a common observation here that our cause is the cause of all mankind, and that we are fighting for their liberty in defending our own.

Benjamin Franklin, letter to Samuel Cooper, May 1, 1777
March 14, 1783

WAKE UP AMERICA
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Great quotes!
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An intelligent specie doesn't need semi-automatic guns. 1 in 10,000 that dies every year for being "free" is a hefty price. And on top of everything, the USA is the least free country in the Western world.

About time you guys put the Bill of Rights in the trash can. This is 2012. The far West era is over since a long time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30254321


award for worst comment in history goes to... this moron from belgium. stand up and take a bow. there are some damn good beers that come from belgium though
 Quoting: mrmuffins69


mmmmmmm...beeeeer.
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An intelligent specie doesn't need semi-automatic guns. 1 in 10,000 that dies every year for being "free" is a hefty price. And on top of everything, the USA is the least free country in the Western world.

About time you guys put the Bill of Rights in the trash can. This is 2012. The far West era is over since a long time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30254321


And we had to save your ass during WW2...

Next time a country invades your country and butt rape you, I'll think twice about risking my life saving your sorry ass...
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Not again....

"You'd be speaking German if we didn't help you out"-bullshit line.

WW2 was a set up. A promise to the Zionists that helped (financed) WW1. They wanted Palestine in return. So they financed a 2nd WW. And we all know what state was created after WW2.

You guys think you're better than the rest and should be policing the world. I assure you that the rest of the world would rather want you to stick with your own affairs. Forever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30254321


Your Zionist conspiracy crap has no place on this thread. This thread has nothing to do with that.
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The Belgian isn't worth responding to.
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lmfao.. if there was intelligent life here on Earth I'd expect 80% no and 6% yes
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disgusting
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lmfao.. if there was intelligent life here on Earth I'd expect 80% no and 6% yes
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disgusting
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How have you been S.D?
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Check Points on I-8 from Phoenix to San Diego, in 340 miles I had 2 go through 3 last December. They have dogs & if they tip the handler they will search ur car.

Do these check points violate our rights?

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Check Points on I-8 from Phoenix to San Diego, in 340 miles I had 2 go through 3 last December. They have dogs & if they tip the handler they will search ur car.

Do these check points violate our rights?
BPCP1

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 Quoting: TTX8K82


I think so
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Check Points on I-8 from Phoenix to San Diego, in 340 miles I had 2 go through 3 last December. They have dogs & if they tip the handler they will search ur car.

Do these check points violate our rights?
BPCP1

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 Quoting: TTX8K82


I think so
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of course they do.
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Check Points on I-8 from Phoenix to San Diego, in 340 miles I had 2 go through 3 last December. They have dogs & if they tip the handler they will search ur car.

Do these check points violate our rights?
BPCP1

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 Quoting: TTX8K82


I think so
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


there r several more here in AZ & more in CA.- the BP claims that they can set these up anywhere w/in 100 miles. I am wondering is they r going to start these along the boarder w/Canada, if they have not already.
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"And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever."

Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, Query 18, 1781


The ideals and principles that founded this once great country have been washed away by the sands of time and the lack of freedom loving men's and women's failure to do nothing in the face of losing all their rights and liberties. Our morals and responsiblities and obligations to liberty have faltered, while the goverment has taken to task of reinstalling these lost values in a new name of liberty and freedom. However their idea of freedom and liberty is equality and progression. This can never happen.

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"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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My question is: With this poll being so lopsided, how did Obama get re elected?
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My question is: With this poll being so lopsided, how did Obama get re elected?
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


how much money you got. you can buy anything in this country except for liberty and freedom.

WAKE UP AMERICA
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"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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Check Points on I-8 from Phoenix to San Diego, in 340 miles I had 2 go through 3 last December. They have dogs & if they tip the handler they will search ur car.

Do these check points violate our rights?
BPCP1

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 Quoting: TTX8K82


I think so
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


of course they do.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


I agree, but, I know lots of people who just except them. They buy in to the protection thing.
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An intelligent specie doesn't need semi-automatic guns. 1 in 10,000 that dies every year for being "free" is a hefty price. And on top of everything, the USA is the least free country in the Western world.

About time you guys put the Bill of Rights in the trash can. This is 2012. The far West era is over since a long time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30254321


See, this is why Americans Don't listen to the rest of the world. Which is also why we have been more prosperous the last century and a half. Because we go our own way.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


Prosperity coming from a world war (financed by the Jews who control America) is not exactly something to brag about. Quite on the contrary.


And by the way, what is left of "the only superpower"? A mountain of debt that can never be paid back.
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An intelligent specie doesn't need semi-automatic guns. 1 in 10,000 that dies every year for being "free" is a hefty price. And on top of everything, the USA is the least free country in the Western world.

About time you guys put the Bill of Rights in the trash can. This is 2012. The far West era is over since a long time.
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I swear to god every time I hear garbage from you Eurotrash, I wish my grandfather and other Americans didnt save your ass from the Nazi's in WW2, and I shouldnt have been in Germany keeping the Soviets from taking you to the gulag.
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My question is: With this poll being so lopsided, how did Obama get re elected?
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how much money you got. you can buy anything in this country except for liberty and freedom.

WAKE UP AMERICA
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Very true.
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An intelligent specie doesn't need semi-automatic guns. 1 in 10,000 that dies every year for being "free" is a hefty price. And on top of everything, the USA is the least free country in the Western world.

About time you guys put the Bill of Rights in the trash can. This is 2012. The far West era is over since a long time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30254321


See, this is why Americans Don't listen to the rest of the world. Which is also why we have been more prosperous the last century and a half. Because we go our own way.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


Prosperity coming from a world war (financed by the Jews who control America) is not exactly something to brag about. Quite on the contrary.


And by the way, what is left of "the only superpower"? A mountain of debt that can never be paid back.
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Idiot
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


ohyeah
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My question is: With this poll being so lopsided, how did Obama get re elected?
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"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy."Alexander Fraser Tytler

The Exact reason for (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants.) Unfortunately we have let the Liberty tree wither and it is very hard to return it to health.
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My question is: With this poll being so lopsided, how did Obama get re elected?
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"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy."Alexander Fraser Tytler

The Exact reason for (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants.) Unfortunately we have let the Liberty tree wither and it is very hard to return it to health.
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First part is why we are in the shape we are in. Second the tree of liberty is looking a little thirsty.

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"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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My question is: With this poll being so lopsided, how did Obama get re elected?
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy."Alexander Fraser Tytler

The Exact reason for (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants.) Unfortunately we have let the Liberty tree wither and it is very hard to return it to health.
 Quoting: RomeoKiller


It amazes me that people these days don't get it. Look at history, our founders, they knew, they understood. They tried to warn us, they tried to teach us.....and it has fallen upon deaf sheep ears.
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An intelligent specie doesn't need semi-automatic guns. 1 in 10,000 that dies every year for being "free" is a hefty price. And on top of everything, the USA is the least free country in the Western world.

About time you guys put the Bill of Rights in the trash can. This is 2012. The far West era is over since a long time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30254321


I am glad you're not an American! Trash can my ass! America is still the best country in the world. You wouldn't know cuz you don't live here. Don't believe everything you hear.
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Do you have a decompensator? ;)

Seriously, OP, you need an education.

Freedom and liberty ARE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE TERMS as you use them here.

I am all for FREEDOM, but NOT LIBERTY!! Liberty is a FREEMASONIC term. Look it up!!
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Do you have a decompensator? ;)

Seriously, OP, you need an education.

Freedom and liberty ARE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE TERMS as you use them here.

I am all for FREEDOM, but NOT LIBERTY!! Liberty is a FREEMASONIC term. Look it up!!
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lol

That's your contribution here?

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