HOW MANY HERE TRULY BELIEVE IN LIBERTY? | |
*HEISENBERG* (OP) User ID: 30143760 United States 12/19/2012 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dukembg no.. the complete opposite.. get rid of ALL LAW and we'd be free. Just saying how we've been funneled into this reality doing that would create a hell hole here and now. Ok, I got ya..I think. You ARE for freedom, total freedom.....but you think right now in human history, if we had total freedom, we would eff it up? Correct. All the different lives and knowledge we gained will not mix very well without law... Have you read 5000 years leap book? It explains why founding father set up U.S. Constitution and where they got ideas from in order to protect liberty. Unfortunately, that went away a long time ago when Federal Reserve was formed... Pay tax or go to jail... Yes sir! |
Saddletramp User ID: 17497054 United States 12/19/2012 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An intelligent specie doesn't need semi-automatic guns. 1 in 10,000 that dies every year for being "free" is a hefty price. And on top of everything, the USA is the least free country in the Western world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30254321 About time you guys put the Bill of Rights in the trash can. This is 2012. The far West era is over since a long time. Let's see Belgium...y'all are considering Euthanasia for Minors and Alzheimer's patients....yeah you guys have a totally evolved society over there... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
WAKEUPAMERICA01 User ID: 30352727 United States 12/19/2012 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759 Where liberty dwells, there is my country. Benjamin Franklin (attributed), letter to Benjamin Vaughn, t is a common observation here that our cause is the cause of all mankind, and that we are fighting for their liberty in defending our own. Benjamin Franklin, letter to Samuel Cooper, May 1, 1777 March 14, 1783 WAKE UP AMERICA WAKE UP AMERICA "I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776 "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777 "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President. "A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency." |
*HEISENBERG* (OP) User ID: 30143760 United States 12/19/2012 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01 Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759 Where liberty dwells, there is my country. Benjamin Franklin (attributed), letter to Benjamin Vaughn, t is a common observation here that our cause is the cause of all mankind, and that we are fighting for their liberty in defending our own. Benjamin Franklin, letter to Samuel Cooper, May 1, 1777 March 14, 1783 WAKE UP AMERICA Great quotes! |
*HEISENBERG* (OP) User ID: 30143760 United States 12/19/2012 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An intelligent specie doesn't need semi-automatic guns. 1 in 10,000 that dies every year for being "free" is a hefty price. And on top of everything, the USA is the least free country in the Western world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30254321 About time you guys put the Bill of Rights in the trash can. This is 2012. The far West era is over since a long time. award for worst comment in history goes to... this moron from belgium. stand up and take a bow. there are some damn good beers that come from belgium though mmmmmmm...beeeeer. |
s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 12/19/2012 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An intelligent specie doesn't need semi-automatic guns. 1 in 10,000 that dies every year for being "free" is a hefty price. And on top of everything, the USA is the least free country in the Western world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30254321 About time you guys put the Bill of Rights in the trash can. This is 2012. The far West era is over since a long time. And we had to save your ass during WW2... Next time a country invades your country and butt rape you, I'll think twice about risking my life saving your sorry ass... Not again.... "You'd be speaking German if we didn't help you out"-bullshit line. WW2 was a set up. A promise to the Zionists that helped (financed) WW1. They wanted Palestine in return. So they financed a 2nd WW. And we all know what state was created after WW2. You guys think you're better than the rest and should be policing the world. I assure you that the rest of the world would rather want you to stick with your own affairs. Forever. Your Zionist conspiracy crap has no place on this thread. This thread has nothing to do with that. The Belgian isn't worth responding to. |
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TTX8K82 User ID: 26400095 United States 12/19/2012 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Check Points on I-8 from Phoenix to San Diego, in 340 miles I had 2 go through 3 last December. They have dogs & if they tip the handler they will search ur car. Quoting: TTX8K82 Do these check points violate our rights? I think so there r several more here in AZ & more in CA.- the BP claims that they can set these up anywhere w/in 100 miles. I am wondering is they r going to start these along the boarder w/Canada, if they have not already. |
WAKEUPAMERICA01 User ID: 30352727 United States 12/19/2012 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever." Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, Query 18, 1781 The ideals and principles that founded this once great country have been washed away by the sands of time and the lack of freedom loving men's and women's failure to do nothing in the face of losing all their rights and liberties. Our morals and responsiblities and obligations to liberty have faltered, while the goverment has taken to task of reinstalling these lost values in a new name of liberty and freedom. However their idea of freedom and liberty is equality and progression. This can never happen. WAKE UP AMERICA01 DEC 2012 WAKE UP AMERICA "I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776 "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777 "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President. "A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency." |
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WAKEUPAMERICA01 User ID: 30352727 United States 12/19/2012 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My question is: With this poll being so lopsided, how did Obama get re elected? Quoting: *HEISENBERG* how much money you got. you can buy anything in this country except for liberty and freedom. WAKE UP AMERICA WAKE UP AMERICA "I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776 "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777 "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President. "A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency." |
TTX8K82 User ID: 26400095 United States 12/19/2012 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Check Points on I-8 from Phoenix to San Diego, in 340 miles I had 2 go through 3 last December. They have dogs & if they tip the handler they will search ur car. Quoting: TTX8K82 Do these check points violate our rights? I think so of course they do. I agree, but, I know lots of people who just except them. They buy in to the protection thing. |
TXGal4Truth User ID: 27742262 United States 12/19/2012 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An intelligent specie doesn't need semi-automatic guns. 1 in 10,000 that dies every year for being "free" is a hefty price. And on top of everything, the USA is the least free country in the Western world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30254321 About time you guys put the Bill of Rights in the trash can. This is 2012. The far West era is over since a long time. See, this is why Americans Don't listen to the rest of the world. Which is also why we have been more prosperous the last century and a half. Because we go our own way. Prosperity coming from a world war (financed by the Jews who control America) is not exactly something to brag about. Quite on the contrary. And by the way, what is left of "the only superpower"? A mountain of debt that can never be paid back. Idiot So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16 *********************************** You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed. :tgdmwt: |
SFC_Swede User ID: 26708534 United States 12/19/2012 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An intelligent specie doesn't need semi-automatic guns. 1 in 10,000 that dies every year for being "free" is a hefty price. And on top of everything, the USA is the least free country in the Western world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30254321 About time you guys put the Bill of Rights in the trash can. This is 2012. The far West era is over since a long time. I swear to god every time I hear garbage from you Eurotrash, I wish my grandfather and other Americans didnt save your ass from the Nazi's in WW2, and I shouldnt have been in Germany keeping the Soviets from taking you to the gulag. "Problem solved, Problem staying solved...Rangers lead the Way" Action Figure Therapy "We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately." Benjamin Franklin |
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*HEISENBERG* (OP) User ID: 30143760 United States 12/19/2012 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An intelligent specie doesn't need semi-automatic guns. 1 in 10,000 that dies every year for being "free" is a hefty price. And on top of everything, the USA is the least free country in the Western world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30254321 About time you guys put the Bill of Rights in the trash can. This is 2012. The far West era is over since a long time. See, this is why Americans Don't listen to the rest of the world. Which is also why we have been more prosperous the last century and a half. Because we go our own way. Prosperity coming from a world war (financed by the Jews who control America) is not exactly something to brag about. Quite on the contrary. And by the way, what is left of "the only superpower"? A mountain of debt that can never be paid back. Idiot |
RomeoKiller User ID: 4172271 United States 12/19/2012 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My question is: With this poll being so lopsided, how did Obama get re elected? Quoting: *HEISENBERG* "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy."Alexander Fraser Tytler The Exact reason for (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants.) Unfortunately we have let the Liberty tree wither and it is very hard to return it to health. If I have to kill you it’s just Business |
WAKEUPAMERICA01 User ID: 30352727 United States 12/19/2012 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My question is: With this poll being so lopsided, how did Obama get re elected? Quoting: *HEISENBERG* "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy."Alexander Fraser Tytler The Exact reason for (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants.) Unfortunately we have let the Liberty tree wither and it is very hard to return it to health. First part is why we are in the shape we are in. Second the tree of liberty is looking a little thirsty. WAKE UP AMERICA WAKE UP AMERICA "I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776 "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777 "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President. "A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency." |
*HEISENBERG* (OP) User ID: 30143760 United States 12/19/2012 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My question is: With this poll being so lopsided, how did Obama get re elected? Quoting: *HEISENBERG* "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy."Alexander Fraser Tytler The Exact reason for (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants.) Unfortunately we have let the Liberty tree wither and it is very hard to return it to health. It amazes me that people these days don't get it. Look at history, our founders, they knew, they understood. They tried to warn us, they tried to teach us.....and it has fallen upon deaf sheep ears. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24392638 United States 12/19/2012 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An intelligent specie doesn't need semi-automatic guns. 1 in 10,000 that dies every year for being "free" is a hefty price. And on top of everything, the USA is the least free country in the Western world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30254321 About time you guys put the Bill of Rights in the trash can. This is 2012. The far West era is over since a long time. I am glad you're not an American! Trash can my ass! America is still the best country in the world. You wouldn't know cuz you don't live here. Don't believe everything you hear. |
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*HEISENBERG* (OP) User ID: 30143760 United States 12/19/2012 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you have a decompensator? ;) Quoting: Hahahaha 28872856 Seriously, OP, you need an education. Freedom and liberty ARE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE TERMS as you use them here. I am all for FREEDOM, but NOT LIBERTY!! Liberty is a FREEMASONIC term. Look it up!! lol That's your contribution here? oh well Last Edited by *Evan on 12/19/2012 06:44 PM |
*HEISENBERG* (OP) User ID: 30143760 United States 12/19/2012 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you have a decompensator? ;) Quoting: Hahahaha 28872856 Seriously, OP, you need an education. Freedom and liberty ARE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE TERMS as you use them here. I am all for FREEDOM, but NOT LIBERTY!! Liberty is a FREEMASONIC term. Look it up!! lib·er·ty Noun 1.The state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life. free·dom Noun 1.The power or right to act, speak, or think as one wants without hindrance or restraint. Seem pretty close to me Last Edited by *Evan on 12/19/2012 06:46 PM |
Ostria1 User ID: 29325791 Greece 12/19/2012 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe in this: liberty presuppose free thinking, open minded, mature individuals who act responsible within their society and respect every other member recognizing their right to think and act different than them. But we are talking about free thinking, open minded, mature individuals.. Ostria |
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