Russia Gives Assad 24 Iskander 9K720 Cruise Missile Systems, Designed For Theater Level Conflicts | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29744072 12/19/2012 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Gives Assad 24 Iskander 9K720 Cruise Missile Systems, Designed For Theater Level Conflicts On Dec. 5, the first American, Dutch and German Patriot missiles landed in Turkey. Quoting: Dixie Normous Within hours, three Russian warships had put into Syria’s Tartus port – the Novocherkassk and Saratov landing craft and the MB-304 supply vessel. Aboard were 300 marines. And not only fighting men. They also delivered a fearsome weapon for Assad’s army and a game changer in the Syrian conflict: 24 Iskander 9K720 (NATO codenamed SS-26 Stone) cruise missile systems, designed for theater level conflicts. While NATO unpacked the Patriots in Turkey, a dozen mobile batteries, each carrying a pair of Iskander missiles, were fixed into position opposite Turkey, and another dozen, opposite Jordan and Israel. At all their stations, the Russian missiles pointed at US military targets. So while the West was gripped with alarm over Assad’s poison sarin gas shells and bombs and gearing up for missile attacks on Turkey, the Russians were injecting into the Syrian war field the most sophisticated weapon of death thus far. The West and Israel have no answer for the Iskander’s hypersonic speed of more than 1.3 miles per second with a 280 mile-range and a 1,500-pound warhead which destroys targets with pinpoint accuracy. It is also nuclear-capable. [link to debka.com] The key thing here is that the Iskander missile is also a ballistic missile (it can hit air, land and sea targets). Patriot missiles, to my knowledge, are only anti-air. The Russians have NATO over a barrel in Syria. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22151483 12/19/2012 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Gives Assad 24 Iskander 9K720 Cruise Missile Systems, Designed For Theater Level Conflicts On Dec. 5, the first American, Dutch and German Patriot missiles landed in Turkey. Quoting: Dixie Normous Within hours, three Russian warships had put into Syria’s Tartus port – the Novocherkassk and Saratov landing craft and the MB-304 supply vessel. Aboard were 300 marines. And not only fighting men. They also delivered a fearsome weapon for Assad’s army and a game changer in the Syrian conflict: 24 Iskander 9K720 (NATO codenamed SS-26 Stone) cruise missile systems, designed for theater level conflicts. While NATO unpacked the Patriots in Turkey, a dozen mobile batteries, each carrying a pair of Iskander missiles, were fixed into position opposite Turkey, and another dozen, opposite Jordan and Israel. At all their stations, the Russian missiles pointed at US military targets. So while the West was gripped with alarm over Assad’s poison sarin gas shells and bombs and gearing up for missile attacks on Turkey, the Russians were injecting into the Syrian war field the most sophisticated weapon of death thus far. The West and Israel have no answer for the Iskander’s hypersonic speed of more than 1.3 miles per second with a 280 mile-range and a 1,500-pound warhead which destroys targets with pinpoint accuracy. It is also nuclear-capable. [link to debka.com] The key thing here is that the Iskander missile is also a ballistic missile (it can hit air, land and sea targets). Patriot missiles, to my knowledge, are only anti-air. The Russians have NATO over a barrel in Syria. Patriot missile system can shoot down ballistic missiles. Syria has always had these anyways, just the media blowing up a normal weapons shipment. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29744072 12/19/2012 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Gives Assad 24 Iskander 9K720 Cruise Missile Systems, Designed For Theater Level Conflicts Interesting.. I really do think though that this little proxy experiment in Syria is doomed. The more harm the rebels appear to be doing to the central government the more help the Russians will send Assad. The West can't afford a bunch of dangerous Islamic fundamentalists shouting "Allahu Akbhar!" from the President's office in Damascus. Ultimately, they're just trying to destabilise Assad enough so that when Israel hits Iran Syria won't open up another front. But it really is doomed. There is no way these rebels will be able to defeat the Syrian army, navy and air force entirely. |
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| MHz User ID: 25505891 12/19/2012 06:33 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Gives Assad 24 Iskander 9K720 Cruise Missile Systems, Designed For Theater Level Conflicts Patriot missile system can shoot down ballistic missiles. Syria has always had these anyways, just the media blowing up a normal weapons shipment. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22151483 Actually they can't. What the Patriot can do is target land locations with a shaped charge that goes off before impact. Like the pic below. [link to www.futuremovement.ca] [link to www.siyese.com] Last Edited by MHz on 12/19/2012 06:35 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24782026 12/19/2012 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Gives Assad 24 Iskander 9K720 Cruise Missile Systems, Designed For Theater Level Conflicts On Dec. 5, the first American, Dutch and German Patriot missiles landed in Turkey. Quoting: Dixie Normous Within hours, three Russian warships had put into Syria’s Tartus port – the Novocherkassk and Saratov landing craft and the MB-304 supply vessel. Aboard were 300 marines. And not only fighting men. They also delivered a fearsome weapon for Assad’s army and a game changer in the Syrian conflict: 24 Iskander 9K720 (NATO codenamed SS-26 Stone) cruise missile systems, designed for theater level conflicts. While NATO unpacked the Patriots in Turkey, a dozen mobile batteries, each carrying a pair of Iskander missiles, were fixed into position opposite Turkey, and another dozen, opposite Jordan and Israel. At all their stations, the Russian missiles pointed at US military targets. So while the West was gripped with alarm over Assad’s poison sarin gas shells and bombs and gearing up for missile attacks on Turkey, the Russians were injecting into the Syrian war field the most sophisticated weapon of death thus far. The West and Israel have no answer for the Iskander’s hypersonic speed of more than 1.3 miles per second with a 280 mile-range and a 1,500-pound warhead which destroys targets with pinpoint accuracy. It is also nuclear-capable. [link to debka.com] Fap, fap, fap, uhhh... fap, fap, fap.. |
| MHz User ID: 25505891 12/19/2012 06:37 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Gives Assad 24 Iskander 9K720 Cruise Missile Systems, Designed For Theater Level Conflicts The West and Israel have no answer for the Iskander’s hypersonic speed of more than 1.3 miles per second with a 280 mile-range and a 1,500-pound warhead which destroys targets with pinpoint accuracy. It is also nuclear-capable. Quoting: Dixie Normous That would make the sneaking across in the dark somewhat risky would it not? (in that Russian detection systems are part of the 'package')Makes you wonder when the 'rebels' will get told about the new system. Last Edited by MHz on 12/19/2012 06:39 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29271249 12/19/2012 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Gives Assad 24 Iskander 9K720 Cruise Missile Systems, Designed For Theater Level Conflicts I see a glass parking lot stretching from libya/sudan/egypt across israel/jordan/syria/iraq/saudi arabia and all the way across iran. Because you can still drill holes through the glass to get to the oil. There just won't be any people and their religions to get in the way of making all that good oil money... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29271249 12/19/2012 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Gives Assad 24 Iskander 9K720 Cruise Missile Systems, Designed For Theater Level Conflicts Why the moderate approach, think anybody will trust you after that? Quoting: MHz The glass you mention will be from the next civil war in America. Just pointing out that the oil barons don't give a shit about a moderate approach which has already been exemplified by a million or so innocent dead folks in iraq and afghanistan. Has anybody stepped in to moderate their approach to date? Do the oil barons need anybody's trust? Does the guy driving the steamroller over you care whether you trust him? |
| IMAX User ID: 30117938 12/19/2012 07:12 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Gives Assad 24 Iskander 9K720 Cruise Missile Systems, Designed For Theater Level Conflicts On Dec. 5, the first American, Dutch and German Patriot missiles landed in Turkey. Quoting: Dixie Normous Within hours, three Russian warships had put into Syria’s Tartus port – the Novocherkassk and Saratov landing craft and the MB-304 supply vessel. Aboard were 300 marines. And not only fighting men. They also delivered a fearsome weapon for Assad’s army and a game changer in the Syrian conflict: 24 Iskander 9K720 (NATO codenamed SS-26 Stone) cruise missile systems, designed for theater level conflicts. While NATO unpacked the Patriots in Turkey, a dozen mobile batteries, each carrying a pair of Iskander missiles, were fixed into position opposite Turkey, and another dozen, opposite Jordan and Israel. At all their stations, the Russian missiles pointed at US military targets. So while the West was gripped with alarm over Assad’s poison sarin gas shells and bombs and gearing up for missile attacks on Turkey, the Russians were injecting into the Syrian war field the most sophisticated weapon of death thus far. The West and Israel have no answer for the Iskander’s hypersonic speed of more than 1.3 miles per second with a 280 mile-range and a 1,500-pound warhead which destroys targets with pinpoint accuracy. It is also nuclear-capable. [link to debka.com] Fap, fap, fap, uhhh... fap, fap, fap.. squirk .. squirk...squiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrkkk Imagine if there was no country Stop the Sabre Rattlings and Wars |
| Dexdrake User ID: 30000025 12/19/2012 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Gives Assad 24 Iskander 9K720 Cruise Missile Systems, Designed For Theater Level Conflicts ..just wikipedia; Iskander9K720...it's capabilities are something to comprehend. just waiting for the SHTF...been watching the USA go into the sewer for 52 years.tried to fight the gun grabbers, had some victories...tried to fight corrupt politicians as a delegate to the Republican party...found out it's all BS |
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| Trbl Ivan User ID: 18833981 12/19/2012 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Gives Assad 24 Iskander 9K720 Cruise Missile Systems, Designed For Theater Level Conflicts It sounds like someone eventually has got p*ssed at the wests attempt to dominate the middle east. Islamic radicalisation of southern regions of mother russia will intensify ....overtime you will be fed the news about "heroic freedom fighters in Russian towns". Patriots pointed towards Syria? How long it will take to turn them towards..... lets say.....Osetia....... |
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| godzilla85 G User ID: 22029621 12/19/2012 08:43 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Gives Assad 24 Iskander 9K720 Cruise Missile Systems, Designed For Theater Level Conflicts eh...don't get me started, makes me naseous thinking about it. "the only limits we have are the ones that we set for ourselves.." I provide analysis on a myriad of int'l issues...if you don't like my opinion...I don't care I'm not here to please you. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29856998 12/19/2012 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Gives Assad 24 Iskander 9K720 Cruise Missile Systems, Designed For Theater Level Conflicts I would think the answer to the iskanders would be to destroy them. Isn't that how you eliminate a threat? Or am I to believe that the presence of 24 medium missiles changes everything and now the US is too scared to fight? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30346886 12/19/2012 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Gives Assad 24 Iskander 9K720 Cruise Missile Systems, Designed For Theater Level Conflicts I would think the answer to the iskanders would be to destroy them. Isn't that how you eliminate a threat? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29856998 Or am I to believe that the presence of 24 medium missiles changes everything and now the US is too scared to fight? this is worse than the cuba crisis. people just haven't realized yet. THE BIG QUESTION IS: CAN NATO GIVE UP ON ITS PLANS(WHATEVER THEY MAY BE) ON SYRIA???? If it can't then there will be world war! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28032678 12/19/2012 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Gives Assad 24 Iskander 9K720 Cruise Missile Systems, Designed For Theater Level Conflicts These missiles are raising the hairs on the back of my neck and is downright fucking scary. This really is inching closer and closer to ww3 including russia china iran vs the west. There is shit happening behind the scenes that is a recipe for a nuclear Holocaust. Why did those American carriers just pack the fuck up and leave...was that in response to the missiles ? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29856998 12/19/2012 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Gives Assad 24 Iskander 9K720 Cruise Missile Systems, Designed For Theater Level Conflicts I don't see how this changes anything. The FSA will finish off Assad with material support from NATO. There is no need for NATO involvement beyond that. Why people still think that NATO wants to "go in" is beyond me. If Assad uses chemical weapons B2s or F22s will fly in within several hours and destroy the iskanders. Then Assad is back to scuds. Even if he gets a couple of iskanders off what does it matter? So he lands a few thousand pounds of ordinance and takes out some allied hardware and some soldiers. Is that supposed to be a serious deterrent? Since when did the threat of losing a squad and a missile battery amount to a game changer? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28032678 12/19/2012 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Gives Assad 24 Iskander 9K720 Cruise Missile Systems, Designed For Theater Level Conflicts I don't see how this changes anything. The FSA will finish off Assad with material support from NATO. There is no need for NATO involvement beyond that. Why people still think that NATO wants to "go in" is beyond me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29856998 If Assad uses chemical weapons B2s or F22s will fly in within several hours and destroy the iskanders. Then Assad is back to scuds. Even if he gets a couple of iskanders off what does it matter? So he lands a few thousand pounds of ordinance and takes out some allied hardware and some soldiers. Is that supposed to be a serious deterrent? Since when did the threat of losing a squad and a missile battery amount to a game changer? I dont understand. Do you think Russia would tolerate their Iskanders simply destroyed by foreign fighters ? It wouldnt end their and knowing the Russians we will wind up having their soldiers stationed directly in the path of Damascus. Then what... Look at what the russians did in Georgia..once a line is drawn they are known for double daring. Once Russian forces are engaged by any percieved nato forces its on. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30244341 12/19/2012 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Russia Gives Assad 24 Iskander 9K720 Cruise Missile Systems, Designed For Theater Level Conflicts I see a glass parking lot stretching from libya/sudan/egypt across israel/jordan/syria/iraq/saudi arabia and all the way across iran. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29271249 Because you can still drill holes through the glass to get to the oil. There just won't be any people and their religions to get in the way of making all that good oil money... Luckily, the Rothschilds don't live in the Middle East, so they'll be able to scoop up all that moolah. |