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Russia Gives Assad 24 Iskander 9K720 Cruise Missile Systems, Designed For Theater Level Conflicts
On Dec. 5, the first American, Dutch and German Patriot missiles landed in Turkey.

Within hours, three Russian warships had put into Syria’s Tartus port – the Novocherkassk and Saratov landing craft and the MB-304 supply vessel. Aboard were 300 marines. And not only fighting men. They also delivered a fearsome weapon for Assad’s army and a game changer in the Syrian conflict: 24 Iskander 9K720 (NATO codenamed SS-26 Stone) cruise missile systems, designed for theater level conflicts.

While NATO unpacked the Patriots in Turkey, a dozen mobile batteries, each carrying a pair of Iskander missiles, were fixed into position opposite Turkey, and another dozen, opposite Jordan and Israel.

At all their stations, the Russian missiles pointed at US military targets.

So while the West was gripped with alarm over Assad’s poison sarin gas shells and bombs and gearing up for missile attacks on Turkey, the Russians were injecting into the Syrian war field the most sophisticated weapon of death thus far.

The West and Israel have no answer for the Iskander’s hypersonic speed of more than 1.3 miles per second with a 280 mile-range and a 1,500-pound warhead which destroys targets with pinpoint accuracy. It is also nuclear-capable.

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It sounds like Obama is being pushed around by Putin.

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Re: Russia Gives Assad 24 Iskander 9K720 Cruise Missile Systems, Designed For Theater Level Conflicts
On Dec. 5, the first American, Dutch and German Patriot missiles landed in Turkey.

Within hours, three Russian warships had put into Syria’s Tartus port – the Novocherkassk and Saratov landing craft and the MB-304 supply vessel. Aboard were 300 marines. And not only fighting men. They also delivered a fearsome weapon for Assad’s army and a game changer in the Syrian conflict: 24 Iskander 9K720 (NATO codenamed SS-26 Stone) cruise missile systems, designed for theater level conflicts.

While NATO unpacked the Patriots in Turkey, a dozen mobile batteries, each carrying a pair of Iskander missiles, were fixed into position opposite Turkey, and another dozen, opposite Jordan and Israel.

At all their stations, the Russian missiles pointed at US military targets.

So while the West was gripped with alarm over Assad’s poison sarin gas shells and bombs and gearing up for missile attacks on Turkey, the Russians were injecting into the Syrian war field the most sophisticated weapon of death thus far.

The West and Israel have no answer for the Iskander’s hypersonic speed of more than 1.3 miles per second with a 280 mile-range and a 1,500-pound warhead which destroys targets with pinpoint accuracy. It is also nuclear-capable.

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 Quoting: Dixie Normous



The key thing here is that the Iskander missile is also a ballistic missile (it can hit air, land and sea targets).

Patriot missiles, to my knowledge, are only anti-air.

The Russians have NATO over a barrel in Syria.
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By the way, there are plenty of MSM articles on the Iskanders being delivered to Syria. Why use Debka? lol
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Re: Russia Gives Assad 24 Iskander 9K720 Cruise Missile Systems, Designed For Theater Level Conflicts
On Dec. 5, the first American, Dutch and German Patriot missiles landed in Turkey.

Within hours, three Russian warships had put into Syria’s Tartus port – the Novocherkassk and Saratov landing craft and the MB-304 supply vessel. Aboard were 300 marines. And not only fighting men. They also delivered a fearsome weapon for Assad’s army and a game changer in the Syrian conflict: 24 Iskander 9K720 (NATO codenamed SS-26 Stone) cruise missile systems, designed for theater level conflicts.

While NATO unpacked the Patriots in Turkey, a dozen mobile batteries, each carrying a pair of Iskander missiles, were fixed into position opposite Turkey, and another dozen, opposite Jordan and Israel.

At all their stations, the Russian missiles pointed at US military targets.

So while the West was gripped with alarm over Assad’s poison sarin gas shells and bombs and gearing up for missile attacks on Turkey, the Russians were injecting into the Syrian war field the most sophisticated weapon of death thus far.

The West and Israel have no answer for the Iskander’s hypersonic speed of more than 1.3 miles per second with a 280 mile-range and a 1,500-pound warhead which destroys targets with pinpoint accuracy. It is also nuclear-capable.

[link to debka.com]
 Quoting: Dixie Normous



The key thing here is that the Iskander missile is also a ballistic missile (it can hit air, land and sea targets).

Patriot missiles, to my knowledge, are only anti-air.

The Russians have NATO over a barrel in Syria.
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Patriot missile system can shoot down ballistic missiles. Syria has always had these anyways, just the media blowing up a normal weapons shipment.
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Interesting..

I really do think though that this little proxy experiment in Syria is doomed.

The more harm the rebels appear to be doing to the central government the more help the Russians will send Assad.

The West can't afford a bunch of dangerous Islamic fundamentalists shouting "Allahu Akbhar!" from the President's office in Damascus.

Ultimately, they're just trying to destabilise Assad enough so that when Israel hits Iran Syria won't open up another front.

But it really is doomed. There is no way these rebels will be able to defeat the Syrian army, navy and air force entirely.
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Patriot missile system can shoot down ballistic missiles. Syria has always had these anyways, just the media blowing up a normal weapons shipment.
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Actually they can't. What the Patriot can do is target land locations with a shaped charge that goes off before impact.

Like the pic below.


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Re: Russia Gives Assad 24 Iskander 9K720 Cruise Missile Systems, Designed For Theater Level Conflicts
On Dec. 5, the first American, Dutch and German Patriot missiles landed in Turkey.

Within hours, three Russian warships had put into Syria’s Tartus port – the Novocherkassk and Saratov landing craft and the MB-304 supply vessel. Aboard were 300 marines. And not only fighting men. They also delivered a fearsome weapon for Assad’s army and a game changer in the Syrian conflict: 24 Iskander 9K720 (NATO codenamed SS-26 Stone) cruise missile systems, designed for theater level conflicts.

While NATO unpacked the Patriots in Turkey, a dozen mobile batteries, each carrying a pair of Iskander missiles, were fixed into position opposite Turkey, and another dozen, opposite Jordan and Israel.

At all their stations, the Russian missiles pointed at US military targets.

So while the West was gripped with alarm over Assad’s poison sarin gas shells and bombs and gearing up for missile attacks on Turkey, the Russians were injecting into the Syrian war field the most sophisticated weapon of death thus far.

The West and Israel have no answer for the Iskander’s hypersonic speed of more than 1.3 miles per second with a 280 mile-range and a 1,500-pound warhead which destroys targets with pinpoint accuracy. It is also nuclear-capable.

[link to debka.com]
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Fap, fap, fap, uhhh... fap, fap, fap..
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The West and Israel have no answer for the Iskander’s hypersonic speed of more than 1.3 miles per second with a 280 mile-range and a 1,500-pound warhead which destroys targets with pinpoint accuracy. It is also nuclear-capable.

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That would make the sneaking across in the dark somewhat risky would it not? (in that Russian detection systems are part of the 'package')Makes you wonder when the 'rebels' will get told about the new system.

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I see a glass parking lot stretching from libya/sudan/egypt across israel/jordan/syria/iraq/saudi arabia and all the way across iran.

Because you can still drill holes through the glass to get to the oil.

There just won't be any people and their religions to get in the way of making all that good oil money...
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Why the moderate approach, think anybody will trust you after that?
The glass you mention will be from the next civil war in America.
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Well if true that's or good deterrent, or potential WW3 trigger.
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Why the moderate approach, think anybody will trust you after that?
The glass you mention will be from the next civil war in America.
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Just pointing out that the oil barons don't give a shit about a moderate approach which has already been exemplified by a million or so innocent dead folks in iraq and afghanistan.

Has anybody stepped in to moderate their approach to date?

Do the oil barons need anybody's trust?

Does the guy driving the steamroller over you care whether you trust him?
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Re: Russia Gives Assad 24 Iskander 9K720 Cruise Missile Systems, Designed For Theater Level Conflicts
On Dec. 5, the first American, Dutch and German Patriot missiles landed in Turkey.

Within hours, three Russian warships had put into Syria’s Tartus port – the Novocherkassk and Saratov landing craft and the MB-304 supply vessel. Aboard were 300 marines. And not only fighting men. They also delivered a fearsome weapon for Assad’s army and a game changer in the Syrian conflict: 24 Iskander 9K720 (NATO codenamed SS-26 Stone) cruise missile systems, designed for theater level conflicts.

While NATO unpacked the Patriots in Turkey, a dozen mobile batteries, each carrying a pair of Iskander missiles, were fixed into position opposite Turkey, and another dozen, opposite Jordan and Israel.

At all their stations, the Russian missiles pointed at US military targets.

So while the West was gripped with alarm over Assad’s poison sarin gas shells and bombs and gearing up for missile attacks on Turkey, the Russians were injecting into the Syrian war field the most sophisticated weapon of death thus far.

The West and Israel have no answer for the Iskander’s hypersonic speed of more than 1.3 miles per second with a 280 mile-range and a 1,500-pound warhead which destroys targets with pinpoint accuracy. It is also nuclear-capable.

[link to debka.com]
 Quoting: Dixie Normous


Fap, fap, fap, uhhh... fap, fap, fap..
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..just wikipedia; Iskander9K720...it's capabilities are something to comprehend.
just waiting for the SHTF...been watching the USA go into the sewer for 52 years.tried to fight the gun grabbers, had some victories...tried to fight corrupt politicians as a delegate to the Republican party...found out it's all BS
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It sounds like Obama is being pushed around by Putin.

ohappy
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It sounds like someone eventually has got p*ssed at the wests attempt to dominate the middle east.
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Look how shook he is in front of Putin
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I'll call ya and rise ya 100 Jupiter IRBMs.. and place them in Turkey.

So, what are you doing for this New Years, the New 1963?
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It sounds like Obama is being pushed around by Putin.

ohappy
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It sounds like someone eventually has got p*ssed at the wests attempt to dominate the middle east.
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Islamic radicalisation of southern regions of mother russia will intensify ....overtime you will be fed the news about "heroic freedom fighters in Russian towns".
Patriots pointed towards Syria? How long it will take to turn them towards..... lets say.....Osetia.......
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It sounds like Obama is being pushed around by Putin.

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ohyeahverysad
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So.................obviously why the US has returned it's three carriers to port. Assad will still likely fall though unless the Russians really help him out, or he uses Sarin against the rebels.
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It sounds like Obama is being pushed around by Putin.

ohappy
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ohyeahverysad
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eh...don't get me started, makes me naseous thinking about it.
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I would think the answer to the iskanders would be to destroy them. Isn't that how you eliminate a threat?

Or am I to believe that the presence of 24 medium missiles changes everything and now the US is too scared to fight?
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I would think the answer to the iskanders would be to destroy them. Isn't that how you eliminate a threat?

Or am I to believe that the presence of 24 medium missiles changes everything and now the US is too scared to fight?
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this is worse than the cuba crisis.
people just haven't realized yet.

THE BIG QUESTION IS:

CAN NATO GIVE UP ON ITS PLANS(WHATEVER THEY MAY BE) ON SYRIA????

If it can't then there will be world war!
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These missiles are raising the hairs on the back of my neck and is downright fucking scary. This really is inching closer and closer to ww3 including russia china iran vs the west.

There is shit happening behind the scenes that is a recipe for a nuclear Holocaust. Why did those American carriers just pack the fuck up and leave...was that in response to the missiles ?
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I don't see how this changes anything. The FSA will finish off Assad with material support from NATO. There is no need for NATO involvement beyond that. Why people still think that NATO wants to "go in" is beyond me.

If Assad uses chemical weapons B2s or F22s will fly in within several hours and destroy the iskanders. Then Assad is back to scuds. Even if he gets a couple of iskanders off what does it matter? So he lands a few thousand pounds of ordinance and takes out some allied hardware and some soldiers. Is that supposed to be a serious deterrent? Since when did the threat of losing a squad and a missile battery amount to a game changer?
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I don't see how this changes anything. The FSA will finish off Assad with material support from NATO. There is no need for NATO involvement beyond that. Why people still think that NATO wants to "go in" is beyond me.

If Assad uses chemical weapons B2s or F22s will fly in within several hours and destroy the iskanders. Then Assad is back to scuds. Even if he gets a couple of iskanders off what does it matter? So he lands a few thousand pounds of ordinance and takes out some allied hardware and some soldiers. Is that supposed to be a serious deterrent? Since when did the threat of losing a squad and a missile battery amount to a game changer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29856998



I dont understand. Do you think Russia would tolerate their Iskanders simply destroyed by foreign fighters ? It wouldnt end their and knowing the Russians we will wind up having their soldiers stationed directly in the path of Damascus.
Then what... Look at what the russians did in Georgia..once a line is drawn they are known for double daring.

Once Russian forces are engaged by any percieved nato forces its on.
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I see a glass parking lot stretching from libya/sudan/egypt across israel/jordan/syria/iraq/saudi arabia and all the way across iran.

Because you can still drill holes through the glass to get to the oil.

There just won't be any people and their religions to get in the way of making all that good oil money...
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Luckily, the Rothschilds don't live in the Middle East, so they'll be able to scoop up all that moolah.