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Ruminations on the Mayan Tzolk'in and 12/21/2012...

 
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Ruminations on the Mayan Tzolk'in and 12/21/2012...
I am so tired of either purposeful obfuscation, or misguided, uneducated, misinformation!

I personally have studied the Mayan people at a top University in the northeast U.S., and I have read primary and secondary sources regarding the Mayan people, for example: The Diary of Hernan Cortes (in Spanish) and the Popol Vuh (which is the Mayan creation story- think of it as "The Mayan Bible"- in Spanish.)

Another thing I heard my cousin say last month was, "The Mayans were completely wrong, they didn't account for Leap Year."
Well, it is true they did not account for Leap Year, because their calendar was much more accurate, and was not divided into a year consisting of 12 months and 365.25 days. The Mayan year was broken down into 13 shorter months (there are 13 moon cycles throughout the year) with 5 extra days at the end of the year (considered ominous days.)

The Mayans were EXPERT star watchers/trackers/charters.

The Mayans were able to accurately predict the movement of the heavenly/celestial bodies down to the exact day, hundreds and thousands of years into the future. In addition to charting and fortelling lunar eclipses, solar eclipses, solstices, and equinoxes down to the exact day, 100s of years into the future...
the Mayan Tzolk'in (calendar) also predicted the exact date of the event which would eventually begin the downfall of their mighty empire! (which at the time, the capital- Tenochtitlan was the most advanced city in the world, with floating farmland, ziggurats, a.k.a. step pyramids, irrigation, planned cities, and sewer systems.)

The Tzolk'in predicted that on April 21, 1519 (the European equivalent date) that men with white skin and red beards would appear on the coast from the East. Anticipating this predicted, grand event, the indigenous Mayan people traveled to the coastline, and awaited the "returning gods"...or so they believed.

Think of how amazing, astonishing, and remarkable that is: The Mayan calendar (Tzolk'in) predicted to the exact DAY, when a specific event would occur, and it did. On Easter Sunday, April 21, 1519, Hernan Cortes and other Spanish conquistadors arrived via sailing ships in "the new world."
Now, the Mayans believed their gods to be evil and wicked. And, the 'returning gods' which were the wicked conquistadors led by Cortes, extinguished an advanced civilization, sadly.

By sword and cannon, Cortes and his band of approximately 500 men conquered, destroyed, and vanquished an entire civilization, which numbered more than one million people. The capital city, Tenochtitlan, alone housed more than 200,000 people, on the low estimate!

It is a shame so much of the Mayan (and Aztec) culture was destroyed. Their gold was melted down, as was their silver....literally tons of silver and gold which had been fashioned into intricate, artistic jewelry, plates, and art pieces were simply melted down into convenient bricks.
Their temples were smashed and razed.
The Mayan books were nearly 100% eradicated...the so-called "Christian" missionaries burnt almost every single piece of Mayan and Aztec writing they discovered.

In fact, of all the tomes and tomes of Mayan knowledge which was recorded onto paper and in book form, today only THREE books have survived.

Imagine the knowledge the Mayans must have had! The Mayans had an advanced written language, and an absolute genius understanding of mathematics and astrology, among other things.


So, what does this mean for us? Well, the 4/21/1519 date proved to not be "the end of the world" for the Mayans....but it was the date that marked the beginning of what would be their swift and nearly complete destruction.

So, what will happen on 12/21/2012? I do not expect the world to end this Friday, but I do expect something to occur which will develop into a drastic change of the way we live life here on planet Earth. It could be an actual event such as an E.L.E., for example: Yellowstone erupting and enveloping the world's atmosphere in clouds of dust. Or, it could be extra-terrestrials arriving via spacecraft at the major cities of the world. Or, it could be an shift in consciousness which leads to more harmony on the planet. It could perhaps mark the date of the birth of the saviour of mankind...whether Jesus Christ is reborn as a child, or it is a completely human infant which is born, but who will lead the world to peace and harmony and liberty for all in 25-50 years time.

Who knows?

I hope this post has been interesting and instructive!

Last Edited by The Sonic Dreamer on 12/19/2012 04:13 PM
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"a top University in the northeast"

who talks like that?
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This justified the crucification of jesus christ whose missonaries and mercernaries destroyed and genocided mayans.

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Re: Ruminations on the Mayan Tzolk'in and 12/21/2012...
"a top University in the northeast"

who talks like that?
 Quoting: Swinburnian


Is that a rhetorical question? If you would like your question answered, here is the answer: "Me."

My alma mater is not a community college, nor a state college. It is a private institution which has a demanding and rigorous education requirement- All students, regardless of specific area of study, must take four courses of foreign language, three theology courses, three philosophy courses, two mathematics courses, two Western Civilization courses, two courses in Chemistry and Biology, one course in Accounting, one course in Finance, one course in Marketing, in addition to required volunteer work before graduation.

Hopefully this expanded answer is helpful for you to understand why I "talk like that."
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This justified the crucification of jesus christ whose missonaries and mercernaries destroyed and genocided mayans.
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This is an irrational, unreasonable, and illogical argument.

If you notice in my post, I refer to the conquistadors and missionaries as "so-called Christians." They were Christians in name only. The vast majority of Christians, at least the Christians in America today, are Christians in name only.

A true follower of Christ would not have given the Mayan peoples two choices: Convert immediately, or be put to the sword.


Your statement is backward and is a form of circular reasoning.

By your reasoning then, the following statement would be true:
The bombing of Japanese civilians, including women and children, via atomic weaponry in 1945 is justified, because the Japanese government is allowing radiation to spread across the planet from the crippled Fukushima nuclear power plants.
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"a top University in the northeast"

who talks like that?
 Quoting: Swinburnian


Is that a rhetorical question? If you would like your question answered, here is the answer: "Me."

My alma mater is not a community college, nor a state college. It is a private institution which has a demanding and rigorous education requirement- All students, regardless of specific area of study, must take four courses of foreign language, three theology courses, three philosophy courses, two mathematics courses, two Western Civilization courses, two courses in Chemistry and Biology, one course in Accounting, one course in Finance, one course in Marketing, in addition to required volunteer work before graduation.

Hopefully this expanded answer is helpful for you to understand why I "talk like that."
 Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer


i meant more like "Who capitalizes university and adds "in the northeast" when there's no relevance to the university's location?"
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Re: Ruminations on the Mayan Tzolk'in and 12/21/2012...
"a top University in the northeast"

who talks like that?
 Quoting: Swinburnian


Is that a rhetorical question? If you would like your question answered, here is the answer: "Me."

My alma mater is not a community college, nor a state college. It is a private institution which has a demanding and rigorous education requirement- All students, regardless of specific area of study, must take four courses of foreign language, three theology courses, three philosophy courses, two mathematics courses, two Western Civilization courses, two courses in Chemistry and Biology, one course in Accounting, one course in Finance, one course in Marketing, in addition to required volunteer work before graduation.

Hopefully this expanded answer is helpful for you to understand why I "talk like that."
 Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer


i meant more like "Who capitalizes university and adds "in the northeast" when there's no relevance to the university's location?"
 Quoting: Swinburnian


It is well known that outside of a handful of institutions such as the University of California, Stanford, Notre Dame, and C.I.T., the universities in the northeast United States are far superior to the state and private universities and colleges in the rest of the country.

You can debate the appropriateness of me capitalizing the word university, perhaps it was correct and appropriate and mayhap 'twer not.
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So, what will happen on 12/21/2012? I do not expect the world to end this Friday, but I do expect something to occur which will develop into a drastic change of the way we live life here on planet Earth. It could be an actual event such as an E.L.E., for example: Yellowstone erupting and enveloping the world's atmosphere in clouds of dust. Or, it could be extra-terrestrials arriving via spacecraft at the major cities of the world. Or, it could be an shift in consciousness which leads to more harmony on the planet. It could perhaps mark the date of the birth of the saviour of mankind...whether Jesus Christ is reborn as a child, or it is a completely human infant which is born, but who will lead the world to peace and harmony and liberty for all in 25-50 years time.
 Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer

TSD, it's the 29th any inkling yet?
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So, what will happen on 12/21/2012? I do not expect the world to end this Friday, but I do expect something to occur which will develop into a drastic change of the way we live life here on planet Earth. It could be an actual event such as an E.L.E., for example: Yellowstone erupting and enveloping the world's atmosphere in clouds of dust. Or, it could be extra-terrestrials arriving via spacecraft at the major cities of the world. Or, it could be an shift in consciousness which leads to more harmony on the planet. It could perhaps mark the date of the birth of the saviour of mankind...whether Jesus Christ is reborn as a child, or it is a completely human infant which is born, but who will lead the world to peace and harmony and liberty for all in 25-50 years time.
 Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer

TSD, it's the 29th any inkling yet?
 Quoting: uscrusader1




I think it does seem like there have been more and more people awakening, no?

I just heard Clark Howard on the radio today say, "The Fiscal Cliff was a manufactured crisis, which both the Democrats and Republicans created."

Now, you and I hear that and think, noshitsherlock
But, my grandmother or my neighbor, or any other random sheeple hears that and they think, "What the hell? It was made-up? Clark Howard isn't a whacko-conspiracy theorist...he always tells it like it is. Hmmmm...if he knows this was fake, I wonder if anything else has been fake or a manufactured crisis? Maybe The Sonic Dreamer is right about the major discrepancies with the Newtown school shooting!"
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