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Anonymous Coward User ID: 628775 Canada 12/19/2012 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.huffingtonpost.ca] Lauren Rousseau, Teacher Killed In Newtown Shooting, Mourned By Canadian Family Her Canadian-born father, Gilles Rousseau, told Radio-Canada that he wanted to see his daughter's body but was informed by authorities that it would not be possible. "They told me, 'You can't see (the body),'" Gilles Rousseau told Radio-Canada, the French-language CBC. "Because most people he shot, it was two or three shots in the face, point-blank." What I don't get is once the bodies were released to the families for burial, what would prevent them from viewing them at that time. What happens if your beliefs dictate an open casket funeral. |
Bluebird User ID: 27748381 United States 12/19/2012 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Once the funeral director or mortuary takes the body from the Medical examiner, it's out of the hands of the govt and up to you if you see the remains or not. I have never heard of families being denied this right except in cases of military remains being shipped in sealed caskets from overseas. The parents can just tell the funeral director they want a private viewing and I think he has to comply. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15326304 United States 12/19/2012 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | would you want to see your child all shot up, or shot in the head? I would think not and I am a parent. if you are not a parent you may not understand. Quoting: Rochelle fuck you. "I" verify my kin. not the govt. if you cant....designate someone who can. how do you know these kids werent shipped off to a pedo ring? youre one ball short of a scrotum yanno that? i would demand to see my childs body u couldnt keep me from not knowing 100 percent btw where are the school camera's ? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15368494 United States 12/19/2012 05:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | would you want to see your child all shot up, or shot in the head? I would think not and I am a parent. if you are not a parent you may not understand. Quoting: Rochelle fuck you. "I" verify my kin. not the govt. if you cant....designate someone who can. how do you know these kids werent shipped off to a pedo ring? youre one ball short of a scrotum yanno that? This ++++1000^^^^ |
Redcat1 Redcat User ID: 16666441 United States 12/19/2012 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No they did not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775 [link to www.huffingtonpost.ca] Lauren Rousseau, Teacher Killed In Newtown Shooting, Mourned By Canadian Family Her Canadian-born father, Gilles Rousseau, told Radio-Canada that he wanted to see his daughter's body but was informed by authorities that it would not be possible. "They told me, 'You can't see (the body),'" Gilles Rousseau told Radio-Canada, the French-language CBC. "Because most people he shot, it was two or three shots in the face, point-blank." What would be left if that was the case? Yes, its a gruesome idea but point-blank 3,000 ft/sec FMJ rounds are not going to leave much - after the first rounds. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2849260 United States 12/19/2012 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do not remember the link I read it on, but I recall reading that they identified them with pictures. Probably not showing the wounds if at all possible. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13761155 If you could find the link, that would be great. On another matter: I read in the Telegraph that no one has yet retrieved the bodies of Adam and Nancy Lanza ... [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] I followed your link and noticed the article was dated 12/18. no family member had yet come forward to claim the bodies of Lanza or his mother. I wonder why? Perhaps the bodies CAN'T be claimed since they aren't the bodies of the people that media say they are? Or maybe I've just been spending too much time at GLP? |
ParallaxPam User ID: 15366249 United States 12/19/2012 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | would you want to see your child all shot up, or shot in the head? I would think not and I am a parent. if you are not a parent you may not understand. Quoting: Rochelle Um..yeah..I would...for closure. NOT knowing for sure via seeing them (and not a body that has been given a DRUG that rendered them coma like) would be mandatory for me. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18040556 United States 12/19/2012 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is just BULLSHIT. What proof do any of those parents have that their children even DIED that day?? Fuckin PICTURES?? Like they couldn't be manipulated. I would scream bloody murder and shit little green apples before they could keep my away from seeing my kid. I don't care if their face was blown off...I would still know if it was my child or not How can these parents be so blind to what's going on? THose poor kids. If they're not really dead by rifle then they have been kidnapped and await and fate WORSE than death. Shit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27571238 United States 12/19/2012 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The rest of the kids in the school were forced to keep their eyes closed when leaving. Authorities swoop in, take control of the bodies, and denies any family members to see them. They are shown pictures, which may or may not have been real. I think, and this is my conclusion on the matter...that 12/21/12 is here, the end of the Mayan long-count, an equinox that won't happen again for thousands of years...and the Satanic Bastages that run this nation needed some extra special sacrifices for the event...with the added bonus of stirring up their minions on the ground and the sheeple in general, to get their gun control measures passed...so they can do their major crackdown in the years ahead... Yes, I believe it's that evil and that bad now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30353078 United States 12/19/2012 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did any of the parents of the shooting victims see their child's body? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1478493 Could you post a link to this info? I have no agenda. I just can't find this out via search. OP - I posted a thread last night about the couple interviewed by Anderson Cooper and it was deleted . . . why, not sure. But in the interview, the couple was laughing, absolutely NO sadness, no tears or emotion - very straightforward. Cooper said something like "it must have been hard not to have been able to see her" . . . and they said yes, but it was ok because they wanted to remember her as she was, something about how she always wore a bow or barrette in her hair, etc. So it seemed to indicate that it was not these parents who CHOSE not to see her, they were not allowed to see her and decided that was ok. They talked about the white casket, they took things she loved into the room, spent time there, and then left. I made that post because, as a parent, I simply could not fathom ANY parent accepting being denied the right to see their murdered child. It's one thing to CHOOSE, it's quite another to be denied. If a parent did not see them, they would NEVER know if they were really murdered in that way, or if their bodies were even there. It's horrible. Those children were allegedly murdered, their bodies were left in the schoolroom for an extended time, and then parents don't even see them . . . ?! That is appalling. And the fact that so many of the parents show no emotion, do interviews, wave to cameras, and seem perfectly fine with not having the option to see their children is all very telling and disturbing, very disturbing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1280257 United States 12/19/2012 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fucking assholes...they don't own these bodies... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28368227 [link to www.huffingtonpost.ca] Her Canadian-born father, Gilles Rousseau, told Radio-Canada that he wanted to see his daughter's body but was informed by authorities that it would not be possible. In a tearful interview, he said the rounds used were so powerful that they ripped through the school's walls and left several holes in his daughter's car outside in the parking lot. "They told me, 'You can't see (the body),'" Gilles Rousseau told Radio-Canada, the French-language CBC. "Because most people he shot, it was two or three shots in the face, point-blank." This is not a young childs body this father is talking about here...this is a grown daughter...a teacher, and the father was NOT allowed to see her body...so, who positively ID'd this woman? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30353078 United States 12/19/2012 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is just BULLSHIT. What proof do any of those parents have that their children even DIED that day?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18040556 Fuckin PICTURES?? Like they couldn't be manipulated. I would scream bloody murder and shit little green apples before they could keep my away from seeing my kid. I don't care if their face was blown off...I would still know if it was my child or not How can these parents be so blind to what's going on? THose poor kids. If they're not really dead by rifle then they have been kidnapped and await and fate WORSE than death. Shit. And it could be theorized that it was "convenient" for the authorities to state, after initial reports, that the poor children were shot "multiple" times, which would give them an "excuse" as to why they would deny parents the right to see them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20901334 United States 12/19/2012 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just like that other case, the Bin Laden one and 9/11, no bodies anywhere. I know people who have had to ID their loved ones body, even after horrible disfiguring accidents or murders. This is just ANOTHER thing that does not add up. Well, it does add up to a cover up? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30291476 Canada 12/19/2012 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fucking assholes...they don't own these bodies... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28368227 [link to www.huffingtonpost.ca] Her Canadian-born father, Gilles Rousseau, told Radio-Canada that he wanted to see his daughter's body but was informed by authorities that it would not be possible. In a tearful interview, he said the rounds used were so powerful that they ripped through the school's walls and left several holes in his daughter's car outside in the parking lot. "They told me, 'You can't see (the body),'" Gilles Rousseau told Radio-Canada, the French-language CBC. "Because most people he shot, it was two or three shots in the face, point-blank." oh my God point blank? I would not want to see my child this way. never I couldn't. not for closure not for nothing. I would always want to remember my child as they were I would never want that image in my head never never Nobody agrees with you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29182916 United States 12/19/2012 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fucking assholes...they don't own these bodies... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28368227 [link to www.huffingtonpost.ca] Her Canadian-born father, Gilles Rousseau, told Radio-Canada that he wanted to see his daughter's body but was informed by authorities that it would not be possible. In a tearful interview, he said the rounds used were so powerful that they ripped through the school's walls and left several holes in his daughter's car outside in the parking lot. "They told me, 'You can't see (the body),'" Gilles Rousseau told Radio-Canada, the French-language CBC. "Because most people he shot, it was two or three shots in the face, point-blank." oh my God point blank? I would not want to see my child this way. never I couldn't. not for closure not for nothing. I would always want to remember my child as they were I would never want that image in my head never never LOL!! I know who you are "Rochelle"! I'm dead fuckin serious, I personally know this fuck! "Rochelle" is not who "she" appears...let's just keep it at that for now.. Hey "Rochelle", you apparently got that new job, eh? How much is it paying? Quite well, I hear. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30353078 United States 12/19/2012 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The rest of the kids in the school were forced to keep their eyes closed when leaving. Authorities swoop in, take control of the bodies, and denies any family members to see them. They are shown pictures, which may or may not have been real. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27571238 I think, and this is my conclusion on the matter...that 12/21/12 is here, the end of the Mayan long-count, an equinox that won't happen again for thousands of years...and the Satanic Bastages that run this nation needed some extra special sacrifices for the event...with the added bonus of stirring up their minions on the ground and the sheeple in general, to get their gun control measures passed...so they can do their major crackdown in the years ahead... Yes, I believe it's that evil and that bad now. With all I've read about this case, I tend to believe that it had something to do with some kind of sacrifice . . . that's why it was so many of that young age, why they were allegedly left inside the school, and why the parents are denied the right to see them. |
Bluebird User ID: 27748381 United States 12/19/2012 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The wounds are so open that the bodies can't be embalmed as is customary. I think they may be sealing them in body bags because of the smell and so forth. But if truly determined, I don't think there is any law that could prevent the family from seeing them. They could get a court order for example. For that matter, they could exhume them later even. But I don't believe there is legal way to prevent this unless, as I suggested it was a health issue with the massive body pulp that could not be preserved in any real manner. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28100246 United States 12/19/2012 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How could anyone identify them by pics if their were shot point blank multiple times in the face? The parents identified by pics? No better than seeing a mangled face personally, imo. So there's an illogical construct here about pics verses actually seeing physically. Understand? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28911861 United States 12/19/2012 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fucking assholes...they don't own these bodies... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28368227 [link to www.huffingtonpost.ca] Her Canadian-born father, Gilles Rousseau, told Radio-Canada that he wanted to see his daughter's body but was informed by authorities that it would not be possible. In a tearful interview, he said the rounds used were so powerful that they ripped through the school's walls and left several holes in his daughter's car outside in the parking lot. "They told me, 'You can't see (the body),'" Gilles Rousseau told Radio-Canada, the French-language CBC. "Because most people he shot, it was two or three shots in the face, point-blank." Can a .223 really go through a brick wall and get larged in a car? Serious question. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15326304 United States 12/19/2012 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did any of the parents of the shooting victims see their child's body? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1478493 Could you post a link to this info? I have no agenda. I just can't find this out via search. OP - I posted a thread last night about the couple interviewed by Anderson Cooper and it was deleted . . . why, not sure. But in the interview, the couple was laughing, absolutely NO sadness, no tears or emotion - very straightforward. Cooper said something like "it must have been hard not to have been able to see her" . . . and they said yes, but it was ok because they wanted to remember her as she was, something about how she always wore a bow or barrette in her hair, etc. So it seemed to indicate that it was not these parents who CHOSE not to see her, they were not allowed to see her and decided that was ok. They talked about the white casket, they took things she loved into the room, spent time there, and then left. I made that post because, as a parent, I simply could not fathom ANY parent accepting being denied the right to see their murdered child. It's one thing to CHOOSE, it's quite another to be denied. If a parent did not see them, they would NEVER know if they were really murdered in that way, or if their bodies were even there. It's horrible. Those children were allegedly murdered, their bodies were left in the schoolroom for an extended time, and then parents don't even see them . . . ?! That is appalling. And the fact that so many of the parents show no emotion, do interviews, wave to cameras, and seem perfectly fine with not having the option to see their children is all very telling and disturbing, very disturbing. but we must give up our freedoms so this kind of thing never happens again |
ParallaxPam User ID: 15366249 United States 12/19/2012 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is just BULLSHIT. What proof do any of those parents have that their children even DIED that day?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18040556 Fuckin PICTURES?? Like they couldn't be manipulated. I would scream bloody murder and shit little green apples before they could keep my away from seeing my kid. I don't care if their face was blown off...I would still know if it was my child or not How can these parents be so blind to what's going on? THose poor kids. If they're not really dead by rifle then they have been kidnapped and await and fate WORSE than death. Shit. You know what? What if they aren't dead and won't come to harm? I mean...there were more girls then boys (less boys can impregnate girls...the stud theory). This just might be my crazy thinking and forgive me if someone else has come up with this but...What if they were targeted because there is something awful about to hit the earth? And If the Powers That Be have a plan (and you know they fucking do...), they took these kids to ensure the procreation of future humanity? These kids were not "geniuses"...that would have been too suspicious. They were kids from a really good school. The adults "shot" could have been the ones deemed the ones the kids trusted the most and would listen to when they were abducted for the sake of humanity. Seriously...are all these funerals closed coffins? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1478493 United States 12/19/2012 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [ OP - I posted a thread last night about the couple interviewed by Anderson Cooper Cooper said something like "it must have been hard not to have been able to see her" . . . and they said yes, but it was ok because they wanted to remember her as she was, something about how she always wore a bow or barrette in her hair, etc. So it seemed to indicate that it was not these parents who CHOSE not to see her, they were not allowed to see her and decided that was ok. . Yes, that's what I saw. That's what got me thinking. But I did not see all of the interview. However, I did hear him make a statement like that ... and it, too, caused me to wonder. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15597712 United States 12/19/2012 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did any of the parents of the shooting victims see their child's body? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1478493 Could you post a link to this info? I have no agenda. I just can't find this out via search. No, they didn't, because no children were killed. If you perpetuate the myth that any children WERE killed, then you should take a good look at yourself and your morals and ethics. |
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ParallaxPam User ID: 15366249 United States 12/19/2012 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a relative of one of the little boys, YES. Quoting: JanJan 18450840 If you wanted to see utterly destroyed human beings, you should have been with one of them at the morgue. And a big FUCK YOU for that fucking question. Yeah...prove you are a relative and even if you are...did YOU see the kid at the morgue? If not STFU. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29182916 United States 12/19/2012 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The wounds are so open that the bodies can't be embalmed as is customary. Quoting: Bluebird I think they may be sealing them in body bags because of the smell and so forth. But if truly determined, I don't think there is any law that could prevent the family from seeing them. They could get a court order for example. For that matter, they could exhume them later even. But I don't believe there is legal way to prevent this unless, as I suggested it was a health issue with the massive body pulp that could not be preserved in any real manner. There are no "DEAD BODIES", shill. Unreal that people actually fall for your shit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15597712 United States 12/19/2012 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a relative of one of the little boys, YES. Quoting: JanJan 18450840 If you wanted to see utterly destroyed human beings, you should have been with one of them at the morgue. And a big FUCK YOU for that fucking question. You think because it's a serious subject, you can get away with this without questioning. You probably could, and do, anywhere else. Luckily, at GLP, non-questioning acceptance is NOT the norm. We look at actual facts here. And there aren't any to prove that ANY children were killed. Hope you don't spend your quarter a post all in one place. |
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