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VIDEO GAMES MAY NOT CAUSE A MASSACRE BUT THEY DO TRAIN ACURATE ASSASSINS

 
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Ever wonder how all of these children can pull off such incredible shooting during these massacres? How such high casualty rates with fast moving targets? Well, I think its obvious that the first person shooter video games, played for hours on end daily, can provide quite the training for some psycho motivated enough to use them for such purposes.



The U.S. Military’s Video Game Training
[link to publicintelligence.net]
About a month ago, from March 29-31 in the Orlando Hilton, the Defense GameTech conference was being held to discuss “gaming technologies” that can enhance “warfighter training” and so-called “virtual world” technologies...In addition to industry people, the conference was also attended by military, government, and academic experts on “serious games”. One of the main presentations at this year’s conference was given by General James Mattis, Commander of Joint Forces Command.


For the U.S. Military, Video Games Get Serious
[link to www.livescience.com]
That has not stopped the military from embracing video games to recruit and train a young generation of gamers who typically play commercial games such as "Modern Warfare 2," which passed $1 billion in sales in January.

"The Army has really taken a hold of gaming technology," said Marsha Berry, executive producer for the game "America's Army 3." Such blurring between entertainment and war may have unwanted consequences, according to Peter Singer, a Brookings Institute defense expert. He argues in a Foreign Policy journal article that the "militainment" phenomenon can lead to greater distortions in how people view war.


Not playing around: Army to invest $50M in combat training games
[link to www.stripes.com]
"The Army takes this seriously," Stephens said of PEO-STRI and its Army gaming unit, which will handle military video game requirements. "We own gaming for the Army — from requirements through procurement," he said.

Game development has become a multibillion-dollar industry in recent years, with large game studios employing thousands of developers and sales that compete with Hollywood’s blockbusters.


These Real Soldiers Are Being Trained On Amazing Video Game
[link to kotaku.com]
What's cool here, though, is the gear Laser Shot uses. Soldiers aren't trained using a mouse and keyboard. They're trained using replica firearms and even replica vehicles, all rigged up to the software in elaborate virtual reality-like systems. There are sniper systems where actual rifles use modified scopes that are plugged into the "game". There are "multiplayer" systems where squads can practice combined arms tactics.
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M M M M M M MONSTER KILL!!!!!!
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M M M M M M MONSTER KILL!!!!!!
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So? Football makes people physically fit, which is also important for a soldier. Don't hear anyone complaining about that.
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Tying Columbine to Video Games - July 5, 2007
[link to thelede.blogs.nytimes.com]
Last month, The American Medical Association flirted with adding video game addiction to its list of mental illnesses before deciding on “more study” and a firm call for parents to watch their children more closely.


Some of the blame has fallen on violent video games, which the two Columbine shooters, Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris, played religiously. But are these games actually part of the problem, or just an easy target?
[link to www.webmd.com]


Virginia Tech Killer Was Another Video-Game Fanatic
[link to www.larouchepub.com]
Within hours of the Virginia Tech killings—where 33 people died, and at least 15 more were injured—LaRouche outlined "critical questions" to be pursued in the investigation of the incident—questions that were framed by the campaign led by LaRouche, and his wife Helga Zepp-LaRouche, chairwoman of the Civil Rights Solidarity (BüSo) party of Germany to expose the video game industry for mental genocide, or "menticide," in both brainwashing young people with a cult of violence, and also training them to kill at the same time.

the Washington Post answered LaRouche's concerns in a very curious way. In a profile of shooter Cho Seung-Hui published on the Internet, Post reporters had obtained eyewitness information from his high school classmates, detailing that Cho had been a fanatical player of "shooter" video games, especially one called "Counterstrike."
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So? Football makes people physically fit, which is also important for a soldier. Don't hear anyone complaining about that.
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I'm specifically referencing their level of shooting ability associated with video game training. Try to keep up.
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These are not "games," they are "killing simulators," and training devices used by law enforcement SWAT teams, and military training. The role of video games in the Cho Seung-Hui shootings cannot be covered up.
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Adam Lanza

Killer’s basement his eerie lair of violent video games
[link to www.nypost.com]
For hours on end, alone in his windowless basement den, Adam Lanza studied photos of guns and obliterated virtual victims in violent video games — until the virtual became a reality...Lanza, 20, especially liked “Call of Duty” — a wartime role-playing game where participants use high-powered assault rifles, machine guns and other weapons to slaughter scores of people, according to a published report.


“He sat in his room playing video games for hours and hours,” the friend said. “She thought the best thing was for him to get out of the house and into the world. To interact with people a little bit."

Read more: [link to www.nydailynews.com]
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Ever wonder how all of these children can pull off such incredible shooting during these massacres? How such high casualty rates with fast moving targets? Well, I think its obvious that the first person shooter video games, played for hours on end daily, can provide quite the training for some psycho motivated enough to use them for such purposes.



The U.S. Military’s Video Game Training
[link to publicintelligence.net]
About a month ago, from March 29-31 in the Orlando Hilton, the Defense GameTech conference was being held to discuss “gaming technologies” that can enhance “warfighter training” and so-called “virtual world” technologies...In addition to industry people, the conference was also attended by military, government, and academic experts on “serious games”. One of the main presentations at this year’s conference was given by General James Mattis, Commander of Joint Forces Command.


For the U.S. Military, Video Games Get Serious
[link to www.livescience.com]
That has not stopped the military from embracing video games to recruit and train a young generation of gamers who typically play commercial games such as "Modern Warfare 2," which passed $1 billion in sales in January.

"The Army has really taken a hold of gaming technology," said Marsha Berry, executive producer for the game "America's Army 3." Such blurring between entertainment and war may have unwanted consequences, according to Peter Singer, a Brookings Institute defense expert. He argues in a Foreign Policy journal article that the "militainment" phenomenon can lead to greater distortions in how people view war.


Not playing around: Army to invest $50M in combat training games
[link to www.stripes.com]
"The Army takes this seriously," Stephens said of PEO-STRI and its Army gaming unit, which will handle military video game requirements. "We own gaming for the Army — from requirements through procurement," he said.

Game development has become a multibillion-dollar industry in recent years, with large game studios employing thousands of developers and sales that compete with Hollywood’s blockbusters.


These Real Soldiers Are Being Trained On Amazing Video Game
[link to kotaku.com]
What's cool here, though, is the gear Laser Shot uses. Soldiers aren't trained using a mouse and keyboard. They're trained using replica firearms and even replica vehicles, all rigged up to the software in elaborate virtual reality-like systems. There are sniper systems where actual rifles use modified scopes that are plugged into the "game". There are "multiplayer" systems where squads can practice combined arms tactics.
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Playing video games does not make you a good shot. There's a huge difference between drawing a bead on someone's chest with a 10 pound weapon and clicking a button on a plastic toy.

Video games do however condition the subconscious mind to perform the shooting function without conscious thought. If the geeks are capable of lifting ten pounds after a life time of sitting on their ass, then maybe they can learn to shoot.

Operating drones brings cowardess to a whole new level.

And that kid did not do the killings. This should be obvious to anyone not buying the hoax.
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Hundreds of hours of CoD and Battlefield and I still can't shoot anywhere near a target in real life. I wonder why... Could it be because instead of a controller or a mouse and having aim assist on I get a real gun with no "sticky aim"? Games might teach you some tactics and make you understand how important it is to take cover or that to get accurate shots you can't be hip firing everything while sprinting around, but they certainly don't make you an "accurate assassin".
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They teach cover and things like that. Playing video games does make you better if you do perhaps decide to shoot weapons at people. Adam Lanza was a mental retard who belonged in a padded cell and had no business playing violent video games. It's not guns. It's not video games. It's mental retards. It's his mother's fault and she paid with her life. The meat wagon should have just came one day grabbed this kid and that should have been the last anyone ever heard of him. Video games don't make someone go to a school and blow away a classroom full of 5 year olds. Mental retards do this so get rid of mental retards and stop blaming it on guns. The solution is not pretty but how many families will be digging graves for their children instead of watch them open presents? You have to break a couple eggs if you want to make an omelet. Israel doesn't allow terrorist muslims attack their kids. Why do we allow mental retards to kill ours? The answer: too many bleeding heart liberals here in America.
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Hundreds of hours of CoD and Battlefield and I still can't shoot anywhere near a target in real life. I wonder why... Could it be because instead of a controller or a mouse and having aim assist on I get a real gun with no "sticky aim"? Games might teach you some tactics and make you understand how important it is to take cover or that to get accurate shots you can't be hip firing everything while sprinting around, but they certainly don't make you an "accurate assassin".
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Well I would imagine a young man would have to be pretty desensitized to be able to shoot that many people accurately in such a short amount of time. I'm sure hundreds of hours of playing a first person shooter video game would desensitize especially someone already with emotional instability issues...coupled with psychoactive meds. There isn't ONE thing to pin it on. But you can't deny their use in military training with a remote, joystick, keyboard, mouse, whatever; the software is used for multiple reasons.

Plus no one knows if these kids were actually playing the game with an objective goal in mind, or if they just enjoyed the simulated killing and sense of power it provided them.

And that's if you subscribe to the theory that all these young people were the ones responsible.
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I don't know how legit this website is or if it was an actual statement from Kissinger but here goes: [link to www.dailysquib.co.uk]

Quote:

Our young have been trained well for the last decade or so on combat console games, it was interesting to see the new Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 game, which mirrors exactly what is to come in the near future with its predictive programming.
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This is a proven concept in military training.

In WW2 they trained on bullseye targets. A high percentage of combatants either did not fire their rifle at the enemy or at all, or aimed off.

Fast forward to Vietnam. Silhouette targets were being used, and coincidentally 93% of combatants were firing their weapon at the enemy.

The whole idea is conditioning to react to a threat without thinking.This is where video games are effective. As far as actual marksmanship, that can be taught in several days, to perform to an acceptable standard for military use.

Military already uses video simulators extensively.
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lol already have bad karma now, just for making an intelligent observation. I'm not attacking video games, just pointing out they are a useful training tool of the military.

So then tell me how all these men became such accurate shooters? Hours of target practice at the range? Common sense seems to be lost on many.
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From another thread: When I joined the Army, all the targets we used in handgun training were human shaped. It's called predictive programming and is a type of psychological conditioning. It's very well know to influence reactionary impuses on the battlefield. No time to ask, "Do I kill this person or not?" You just do it.

The Army recognizes the power of conditioning and has released a video game called America's Army, where you go through a virtual basic combat training course. When new recruits get to basic training, they have already "been there and done that" which makes the transition from civilian to soldier easier.

Predictive programming and conditioning works poorly on people who have trained themselves to ignore it, or simply have problems accepting someone else's authority over their lives. I fall into that category, which made me a VERY BAD soldier.

Many many soldiers I know are still conditioned YEARS after getting out. They're the ones you see wearing the ballcaps that say "Nam Vet" or "First Sergeant (Retired)".
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I have been shooting real guns my entire life and I can tell you one thing,playing Duck Hunt on a Nintendo is in no way training for an assault on a school. Let's call this what it is a planned and eventual gun confiscation through negative PR on gun control.
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I have been shooting real guns my entire life and I can tell you one thing,playing Duck Hunt on a Nintendo is in no way training for an assault on a school. Let's call this what it is a planned and eventual gun confiscation through negative PR on gun control.
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I appreciate your attempt to minimize with the "duck hunt" reference, but we all know that's not at all what we're talking about.

I do agree with you that they are using this shooting, staged or not, to go for guns. Thanks.
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The military gets all the cool toys!

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