I can't hunt dear with a .223

My deer this year wasn't unarmed it had two arms and two legs.

Only if the other hunter was willing. I didn't mean shoot him in the back. Only if each knows that the other is hunting him. Should be good fun. Humans have over populated areas too. So I suppose a bit of culling by war etc could be a good thing. After all many starving and living on the streets all over the world.

Me? Don't think I am sick in the head, I don't kill anything at all if I can help it. I let the others who enjoy it do it, I don't want them missing out on their idea of fun. I have heard all the justifications before. Boring, same old, same old!

Nothing is guaranteed to kill a deer unless you make a good shot. The .223 will easily kill a deer with a well placed shot.

For me and billions of others eating meat is a fact of life.

I hunt,I enjoy hunting,I am not filled with joy at the death of the animal I kill. I respect that animal and believe killing it to eat it is more honest than buying a pound of hamburger and blaming others for killing that animal.

Mini 14 is a nice target rifle, especially with a scope. We used to take beer bottles and shoot them with it. Always hit in dead square and the bottle didn't blow up just took out the body of the bottle. The bottom and neck stayed in tact. It was odd seeing the neck just go straight down. Yep a .223 would be pretty mean. Prolly okay to take out small varmints.

Your just jealous.....

Same here, deer brains seem a bit mad cow scary.

My problem with the .223 for deer hunting is that it is a very light high velocity round that very frequently does not give up its energy in the body of the beast, but passes straight through and continues to be a potential danger for quite a distance. This is great for military use, where your objective is to injure, not kill, as many opposing troops as possible.

I prefer a heavy slower bullet like a .729 that goes up and falls like a mortar. These give up all their energy on impact and knocks the animal over, the shock wave set up then pretty much ensures one shot, one kill.

.50 cal. has been proven to be great for deer if there is anything left after you hit it. :-)

For deer I use a 6mm and a 257 roberts Ruger M77 bolt action. They are nice deer rifles.

I don't blame the others. We all have to eat. I agree with some of what you say. I have feed many animals and noticed if I do, then they stop hunting. They kill to eat. We have shop loads of dead animals to eat already. I would agree to stopping that, and making everyone hunt their own meat.

Excellent point about not killing but just injuring the enemy.

It is a fact that if a enemy in combat is injured,that could remove more troops from the fight because they are caring for the wounded.

You're doing it wrong. You are supposed to say that the .223 is an evil "HIGH POWER Assault Rifle" that kills little kids.

Any caliber is enough to kill a child and a shot from any of them hurt like hell. Duh.

What's your point? You hate the freaking bullet and not the person who put it there? That's real smart.

Shooting a deer with a clean shot is probably the least bad way for deer to die. Cougar might come second. Dogs and wolves are horrible. Winter starvation is horrible. Getting hit by a car is turrible. Then their is disease, infection, poisoning. Deer have no chance of dieing of old age, unless in a zoo. Good deer hunting is humane.

I don't have a problem with it. It makes for a more long range accurate shot.

A .223 ca kill a deer all day long!
Sure a .270 will kill it from hydrostatic shock but a well placed shot it will take no more steps than with any rifle.


Your state just makes you use larger calibers because it is making up for your poor shooting.

A .22 LR has killed more deer than any weapon.

I have taken Deer with .223, Never had a problem.

I have shot 6 or 7 deer with my .222, and have dropped all of them. I have never had one run.

Again, this is a purely personal preference, but the .223 in my mind is a predator gun, for smaller, more distant coyotes, foxes etc. The flat trajectory makes aiming on a smaller more distant target easier. There is less flying metal and less probability of blowing the animal up and making a real mess.

Yes! On all that you posted, I think you know better than me, and it makes sense. I so believe you, it is more humane, but with so many animals already killed, why kill more?

As I said animals I leave food out for stop hunting, they don't need to. Neither do you, unless you are broke. Then you could not afford guns and ammunition or a freezer. You have another reason why you go hunting - I know it - you know it!

We should do away with most meat in shops and make everyone hunt their own. Now, I would not be eating any meat, but that would be my problem.

I watched a kid about 15yo shoot a moose with a 22lr! Screwed it in it's ear and it dropped instantly! The distance was about 25ft and the kid was stone cold brave(crazy)to be that close with that small a zip thrower.

Deer with a 223 NO PROBLEM!

Yes! On all that you posted, I think you know better than me, and it makes sense. I so believe you, it is more humane, but with so many animals already killed, why kill more?

As I said animals I leave food out for stop hunting, they don't need to. Neither do you, unless you are broke. Then you could not afford guns and ammunition or a freezer. You have another reason why you go hunting - I know it - you know it!

We should do away with most meat in shops and make everyone hunt their own. Now, I would not be eating any meat, but that would be my problem.


Well they are on the property and they need to be culled. Besides I enjoy venison including making wild hog with venison sausage. A good head shot gives you the opportunity to open up the chest cavity and massage the heart to bleed the animal out. I don the same with wild hogs when possible. It makes for much better flavored meat. Along with aging the carcass with the kidneys attached. We use the animal as much as possible and leave the rest on the cliff rock for the turkey vultures and caracaras.

Sorry that my number changed but lately when I post a reply on GLP I loose my connection,dial up. A BS flag because he said he can kill a DEER(did I spell that right?)with a .223,really.

My whole point in this thread is that TPTB are singling out a a specific gun and caliber as the root of all evil. I think they are just pushing us to the edge of the slippery slope.

They are planning years ahead of what they present to us,just like their military admits to what they use now compared ti what they really have in their arsenal.

I have seen many MSM shows talking about gun control laws,like America doesn't have any already.

All I,m really saying is that I could give a fuck about banning a BS weapon that they call a assault rifle. The whole point to a militia is to be an insurgency that grows in power from the body that it feeds off of.

I don't believe that Americans will ever again take arms against the Federal Government. I say again,because the Civil war was all about what the second amendment represents.

The majority of Americans believe what ever the MSM tells them to believe.

Goebbles would be proud(he was Hitlers propaganda minister)of the way the MSM works.

The state won't allow me to hunt dear either.

Damn I marred her until death do us part, but does the state allow you to end the marriage with death.

Noooooo....


Unless you meant deer, in which case 0.30 is the best gauge to use. It is swift and if your aim is true, pretty much painless for the prey.

The terrible thing is that in previous decades people have shot up a lot of game and left the animal to suffer not wanting to chase it down and finish the job.

Arrows are the worst, and I am an avid bowsman. however people insist on using 35# instead of 50+# bows and then have no clue how to actually hit the animal with an arrow to swiftly bring it down.

Which is leading to more pressure to ban bows as a method of hunting in many parts of the world.

Try an ar-10.

Go protest a fast food joint...

the point being, it is illegal to hunt deer with a 22.

next point, did I get this right, the kids were all killed with a 22?
100 rounds with a 22???? how could anyone reload that fast?

now they want to ban our pump 22's?????