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How long can a jet remain stationary?

 
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12/20/2012 12:03 AM
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How long can a jet remain stationary?
Coming home 6:30 pm tonight, I see a huge light in the sky
straight east of me. I am an hour west of Toronto so I do see alot of planes taxi-ing to land at Pearson. But this huge light remained stationary the whole time i was driving home which is a 15 minute drive??? Anyone else see it?
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12/20/2012 12:04 AM
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Re: How long can a jet remain stationary?
Harrier.
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12/20/2012 12:05 AM
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What is a harrier?
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12/20/2012 12:10 AM
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A US marine Jet developed by a British company that can turn its jets down and hover it is one of the only jets that can take off vertically. They are fucking amazing and can hover in one spot for long periods of time. You may have seen them test a new version. Up in Dayton Ohio next to Wright Patt they initially tested them when they were still a prototype and three or four Dayton Police officers chased it across the city thinking it was an Alien space craft. Three years later it was debuted and the cops felt fucking stupid.
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oh i just googled it and its a military jump jet, i don't know if our air force has those LOL
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12/20/2012 12:12 AM
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Re: How long can a jet remain stationary?
It sounds amazing! That had to be what I saw.
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They may have been testing it out to buy it. You never know really. I knew at first it was the UK and the US that had them and then I think Australia bought some.
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12/20/2012 12:13 AM
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Re: How long can a jet remain stationary?
It sounds amazing! That had to be what I saw.
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They are by far one of the coolest Jets possible. One was even used in MGS 2 as a boss mission which was fucking beautiful.
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12/20/2012 12:14 AM
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Re: How long can a jet remain stationary?
Are they also insanely fast? By the time I reached my driveway it took off like a streak.
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12/20/2012 12:15 AM
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Re: How long can a jet remain stationary?
Under the right conditions, as long as it has fuel.
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12/20/2012 12:17 AM
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Re: How long can a jet remain stationary?
Hmm Aussie, thanks for checking in. So you think it could have been a regular jet?
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Longer than it can stay flying.
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12/20/2012 12:21 AM
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LOL @ shr....yeah I guess I never worded that right! I meant in the air.
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12/20/2012 12:21 AM
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Re: How long can a jet remain stationary?
Was it real windy?
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12/20/2012 12:23 AM
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No it wasn't windy at all.
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12/20/2012 12:24 AM
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Re: How long can a jet remain stationary?
They can hover for about Ten to Fifteen Minutes depending how cool it is outside.
Also they take off like bats out of Hell from the hover position.
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12/20/2012 12:24 AM
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Re: How long can a jet remain stationary?
Hmm Aussie, thanks for checking in. So you think it could have been a regular jet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30377425


If it had a head wind speed above its stall speed and equal to its air speed it would remain stationary relative to the ground.

This would be around 200 mph for a guess, so unlikely at low altitudes, but possible none the less. IMO.

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12/20/2012 12:27 AM
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Re: How long can a jet remain stationary?
Cool info Aussie. Thanks.

The temperature here is sort of mild. It would have been around 5 celcius or so this evening. In fahrenheit i would say thats around 45
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12/20/2012 12:34 AM
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Re: How long can a jet remain stationary?
The way they work is they use coolant to keep their jets from over heating, also the outside temperature effects it greatly.
If it hadn't used very much coolant and they were testing it to see how long it could last in 45 degree weather 15 shouldn't be much of a stretch seeing as 80 degree weather they can hover longer then ten minutes.
If they were testing it to buy it it would explain why they let it hover for 10 to fifteen minutes.
That is the most rational thing I can think of without saying aliens. However I do remember something about a new version from the same company that was designed smaller and holding less fire power so it could have speed and stability along with longer hover times. I saw one at Wright Patt a few years ago as a prototype but I'm not sure if it has been complete. I was told they were having issues holding enough fuel for it to be practical, but they could have solved it.
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12/20/2012 12:37 AM
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Re: How long can a jet remain stationary?
Found an article from 06 about our military purchasing some

[link to www.canada.com]

That is really interesting about how they hover.
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12/20/2012 12:38 AM
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oh and it said we'd take delivery in 2013 I believe.
It's almost here.
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oh and it said we'd take delivery in 2013 I believe.
It's almost here.
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12/20/2012 12:40 AM
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Re: How long can a jet remain stationary?
Found an article from 06 about our military purchasing some

[link to www.canada.com]

That is really interesting about how they hover.
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It is pretty cool. I think it was based off of an old experimental Twin Engine plane that was designed to be able to take off at harsh angles by tilting their engine. It wasn't very practical at the time because engines at the time were still pretty primitive compared to even engines in ATVs now.
An even cooler jet is the Warthog. It is a jet built around a giant 50 mm Gatling cannon that can fire its entire payload in 10 seconds.
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12/20/2012 12:41 AM
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Re: How long can a jet remain stationary?
oh and it said we'd take delivery in 2013 I believe.
It's almost here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30377425


You may have been the first to see the pilots get training. Hell yeah you made history my friend and didn't even know it.
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12/20/2012 12:44 AM
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Re: How long can a jet remain stationary?
Are you sure it wasn't a Carbon Cub? They can hover in one spot.
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12/20/2012 12:48 AM
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Re: How long can a jet remain stationary?
New JSF? Supersonic STOVL aircraft.
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12/20/2012 12:49 AM
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Re: How long can a jet remain stationary?
Are you sure it wasn't a Carbon Cub? They can hover in one spot.

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He said it wasn't windy and that it took off fast from hover. Any small plane can hover if there is wind, for example a Cessna 152 only needs about 60 mph of wind to stay stationary, and another example are gliders they can catch up drafts that can make them seem like they are hovering.
But the only jet that I know of apart from prototypes that can hover and then take off hauling ass is a Harrier.
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12/20/2012 12:52 AM
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Re: How long can a jet remain stationary?
New JSF? Supersonic STOVL aircraft.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25323670


It could have been but I doubt it seeing as the only countries to test it are US and UK until its finished.
They don't wanna risk even other allies to have one until its finished.
But they could have been testing it in low weather.
What is the Altitude where you are at? That might give more reason to test the F-35 L II.
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12/20/2012 12:59 AM
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Re: How long can a jet remain stationary?
F35B:




Yak-38:

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12/20/2012 01:02 AM
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F35B:




Yak-38:


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Holy shit I completely forgot about the YAK.
Wow thank you for that one man.
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Re: How long can a jet remain stationary?
Are you sure it wasn't a Carbon Cub? They can hover in one spot.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15488325


He said it wasn't windy and that it took off fast from hover. Any small plane can hover if there is wind, for example a Cessna 152 only needs about 60 mph of wind to stay stationary, and another example are gliders they can catch up drafts that can make them seem like they are hovering.
But the only jet that I know of apart from prototypes that can hover and then take off hauling ass is a Harrier.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13179944


A 152 has a stall speed of about 40 mph with full flaps, about half of that with vortex generators.