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Guns need to be banned - period.

 
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Re: Guns need to be banned - period.
No amount of conspiracy theories as to who what or why can say otherwise.

Gun possesion = life in prison.
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Would that rule apply to police, soldiers, security guards, and the newly armed railway ticket inspectors?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30376378


No because they are screened and usually not psychotic, and they need to uphold the law.

You can talk all day long about illegal possession etc, crooks getting hold of guns, selling illegally etc, custom made, the whole deal, but life in prison is a massive deterrent. A very small percentage will put their entire life at risk over a weapon. They will decide its not worth the risk.
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Riiight.

Ask Rodney King that.
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12/20/2012 06:36 AM
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No amount of conspiracy theories as to who what or why can say otherwise.

Gun possesion = life in prison.
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That is retarded.
In my humble opinion.
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12/20/2012 06:37 AM
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Re: Guns need to be banned - period.
No amount of conspiracy theories as to who what or why can say otherwise.

Gun possesion = life in prison.
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In your country!
Just try and stop it in mine!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20068093


You going to shoot some people?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28829336


Hell no!
But if they try to shoot innocents, hell yes!
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12/20/2012 06:38 AM
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As for stabbings, knives or sharp objects cant murder on a mass scale.
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12/20/2012 06:40 AM
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Re: Guns need to be banned - period.
As for stabbings, knives or sharp objects cant murder on a mass scale.
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Vehicles can.....So can planes and explosions. If someone is intents on destruction. I'm sure they will find a medium to do it.
Crap might as well ban fertilizer and kitty litter.

Last Edited by Blue Skies on 12/20/2012 06:41 AM
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Re: Guns need to be banned - period.
No amount of conspiracy theories as to who what or why can say otherwise.

Gun possesion = life in prison.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28805634


In your country!
Just try and stop it in mine!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20068093


You going to shoot some people?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28829336


Hell no!
But if they try to shoot innocents, hell yes!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20068093


The government will ban guns. Why would the government shoot innocents?
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12/20/2012 06:41 AM
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We never got to be a free country for nothing!
We came here.
Fought!
Left our print for life.
Made our country ours!
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As for stabbings, knives or sharp objects cant murder on a mass scale.
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No... but bombs and long bladed weapons surely can.

Hell a damn set of hedge trimmers could be used.

Do you people even hear yourselves?
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12/20/2012 06:41 AM
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We banned guns in the UK in the late 90's, and its amazing since then we haven't had any gun crime at all.
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only a retard would believe you

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12/20/2012 06:42 AM
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Re: Guns need to be banned - period.
Murderers commonly receive life sentences for their acts that doesn't stop people from doing it. OP, honestly I can understand what you wish the world to be, a world without guns, violence, murder. I wish there was just peace too. The problem is we all live in a modern society, yet we all are wired with 50000 year old software. Human beings are animals. Some are just more likely to follow the rules set forth by society than others. I would rather be able to defend myself from the criminals and insane among us than not.
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12/20/2012 06:42 AM
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IMO gun possession = the ability of the individual law abiding citizen to potentially defend himself and others against criminal assault.

Currently in Australia, only high ranking politicans and public office holders and those wealthy enough to afford personal body guards have this ability.

Perhaps, if so armed, the female news reporter who was recently kidnapped and murdered by two males might have had a chance.
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12/20/2012 06:43 AM
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People make them in workshops here illegally. It's a hassle to own a legal handgun, but that doesn't stop anyone who wants a bang bang.
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See how life in prison goes for custom made bang bangs. Thugs that sell em will bitch out eventually.
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Boy, you're a fucking genius. You must have an IQ of fucking 190. Did you go to fuckin Harvard???

Two immediate critical flaws come to mind with your brilliant plan


1) Anyone that wants to see his enemy put away in prison for life only needs to set him up by tossing a gun on his property and phoning in a tip.

2) Making things a "life sentences" willy nilly inspires fanatical, suicidal resistance from desperate people who have nothing left to lose.

BTW GLP, is there like a "Moran of the Year" award here? This Aus-tard deserves it.
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We never got to be a free country for nothing!
We came here.
Fought!
Left our print for life.
Made our country ours!
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and it's going to stay ours !!!
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12/20/2012 06:44 AM
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In your country!
Just try and stop it in mine!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20068093


You going to shoot some people?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28829336


Hell no!
But if they try to shoot innocents, hell yes!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20068093


The government will ban guns. Why would the government shoot innocents?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16577218


Ask those who perished in the Holocaust why their government wanted to shoot innocents. Government is inherently bad.
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12/20/2012 06:45 AM
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Re: Guns need to be banned - period.
As for stabbings, knives or sharp objects cant murder on a mass scale.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16577218

Vehicles can.....So can planes and explosions. If someone is intents on destruction. I'm sure they will find a medium to do it.
 Quoting: Blue Skies


A vehicle cant do what an automatic gun can, not even close.

Planes.. thats why you have strong airport security.

Explosions.. again, explosive materials come under the same scrutiny as airport security.

Walmart doesn't sell bombs or Boeing jets to Joe Blow.
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12/20/2012 06:48 AM
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OP, the the government have guns?
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Re: Guns need to be banned - period.
As for stabbings, knives or sharp objects cant murder on a mass scale.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16577218

Vehicles can.....So can planes and explosions. If someone is intents on destruction. I'm sure they will find a medium to do it.
 Quoting: Blue Skies


A vehicle cant do what an automatic gun can, not even close.

Planes.. thats why you have strong airport security.

Explosions.. again, explosive materials come under the same scrutiny as airport security.

Walmart doesn't sell bombs or Boeing jets to Joe Blow.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16028523

I have to ask you......Do you seriously think that 99.9% of those that own guns would ever think of going on a rampage and killing people. I think not.
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12/20/2012 06:50 AM
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I as an Australian, I hope the American people stand against the call for a bans on guns. Do we need even MORE laws to dictate how we live our lives?

Cars cause more harm than guns. Should we ban cars too? To save the life of just one child would be worth it.

This sort of retarded thinking is where the mind of the OP is at. And it is flawed thinking. Their heart is in the right place, but their mind has slipped down the spinal cord and is firmly lodged in the buttocks.
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People make them in workshops here illegally. It's a hassle to own a legal handgun, but that doesn't stop anyone who wants a bang bang.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30399566


See how life in prison goes for custom made bang bangs. Thugs that sell em will bitch out eventually.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28829336


Boy, you're a fucking genius. You must have an IQ of fucking 190. Did you go to fuckin Harvard???

Two immediate critical flaws come to mind with your brilliant plan


1) Anyone that wants to see his enemy put away in prison for life only needs to set him up by tossing a gun on his property and phoning in a tip.

2) Making things a "life sentences" willy nilly inspires fanatical, suicidal resistance from desperate people who have nothing left to lose.

BTW GLP, is there like a "Moran of the Year" award here? This Aus-tard deserves it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29807310


1) Bad luck to those with such enemies.

2) If desperate people with nothing left to lose cant get a gun, they cant mass murder school kids.
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Damn phone, I meant to ask the OP if in his no gun scenario that the government should still have guns?
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12/20/2012 06:51 AM
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Some Aussies are fuckin tarded. It isn't the gun that kills people, it's the person. In places where gun laws aren't applicable they have less deaths because they carry guns and can respond instantaneously.
 Quoting: Jaid0gz

Hey, this guy gets it, right on man.
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Not sure what you are saying. We banned guns in the UK in the late 90's, and its amazing since then we haven't had any gun crime at all. No gang related shootings, no bank or security van hold ups, no police shooting innocent electricians, its brilliant, after all if guns are banned then no one can get hold off them.

Yo op, maybe stay out of the sun, its destroyed your brain
 Quoting: F F S


Or maybe yours because your crime rate went up.

lol

An audit at The Royal London Hospital found a rise in admissions for stabbing injuries over the last decade.
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retard
 Quoting: Children of the Atom


Sorry, didn't realise i had to add sarcasm in brackets at the end, i thought you may have spotted it.
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A vehicle cant do what an automatic gun can, not even close.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16028523


What about a bus full of school children and a drunk bus driver?
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12/20/2012 06:53 AM
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People make them in workshops here illegally. It's a hassle to own a legal handgun, but that doesn't stop anyone who wants a bang bang.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30399566


See how life in prison goes for custom made bang bangs. Thugs that sell em will bitch out eventually.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28829336


Boy, you're a fucking genius. You must have an IQ of fucking 190. Did you go to fuckin Harvard???

Two immediate critical flaws come to mind with your brilliant plan


1) Anyone that wants to see his enemy put away in prison for life only needs to set him up by tossing a gun on his property and phoning in a tip.

2) Making things a "life sentences" willy nilly inspires fanatical, suicidal resistance from desperate people who have nothing left to lose.

BTW GLP, is there like a "Moran of the Year" award here? This Aus-tard deserves it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29807310


1) Bad luck to those with such enemies.

2) If desperate people with nothing left to lose cant get a gun, they cant mass murder school kids.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16028523


We are supposed to void our constitution and disarm every American,to keep desperate people from mass murder??

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard!!

putin
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Well then the next constitutional amendment to go shall be your right to free speech, so why not just shut the fu#$ up now instead of later
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Re: Guns need to be banned - period.
We banned guns in the UK in the late 90's, and its amazing since then we haven't had any gun crime at all.
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only a retard would believe you

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30386043


And again, what is it with you Americans that you cant spot sarcasm.
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Re: Guns need to be banned - period.
As for stabbings, knives or sharp objects cant murder on a mass scale.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16577218

Vehicles can.....So can planes and explosions. If someone is intents on destruction. I'm sure they will find a medium to do it.
 Quoting: Blue Skies


A vehicle cant do what an automatic gun can, not even close.

Planes.. thats why you have strong airport security.

Explosions.. again, explosive materials come under the same scrutiny as airport security.

Walmart doesn't sell bombs or Boeing jets to Joe Blow.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16028523

I have to ask you......Do you seriously think that 99.9% of those that own guns would ever think of going on a rampage and killing people. I think not.
 Quoting: Blue Skies


The whole point is that gun control needs to be scrutinised as strictly as airports.

99.9% of people with their own jets wouldnt think of going on a rampage and killing people either, but imagine if crooks or psychos could walk up to a Boeing in the Walmart car park and fly it away?

Get the point.. guns need to become Boeings.. post 9/11 that is.
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Damn phone, I meant to ask the OP if in his no gun scenario that the government should still have guns?
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Yeah apparently so. OP seems to think that his governement has his best interests at heart.
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A vehicle cant do what an automatic gun can, not even close.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16028523


What about a bus full of school children and a drunk bus driver?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30376378


You've watched too many Simpsons episodes bro. Or Happy Madison.
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People make them in workshops here illegally. It's a hassle to own a legal handgun, but that doesn't stop anyone who wants a bang bang.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30399566


See how life in prison goes for custom made bang bangs. Thugs that sell em will bitch out eventually.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28829336


Boy, you're a fucking genius. You must have an IQ of fucking 190. Did you go to fuckin Harvard???

Two immediate critical flaws come to mind with your brilliant plan


1) Anyone that wants to see his enemy put away in prison for life only needs to set him up by tossing a gun on his property and phoning in a tip.

2) Making things a "life sentences" willy nilly inspires fanatical, suicidal resistance from desperate people who have nothing left to lose.

BTW GLP, is there like a "Moran of the Year" award here? This Aus-tard deserves it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29807310


1) Bad luck to those with such enemies.

2) If desperate people with nothing left to lose cant get a gun, they cant mass murder school kids.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16028523


You just keep digging yourself deeper into a hole of your own retardation.

1) That's just convenient hand waving on your part. If you were actually responsible for running a government and had this attitude, you'd simply lose power to the groups that could successfully systemitize the tactics which subvert your ham fisted policies. If you simply say "too bad, ignore the obvious setups and sally forth with life sentences for everybody" you'd end up with a failed state.

2) Nope, you already agreed that criminals have no problem obtaining guns through smuggling or shop fabrication. You already said that your brilliant plan of draconian penalty would simply be a deterrent which would prevent the act in and of itself. This is invalid and you're not making any argument to address that.

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