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In this tiny Texas town, children and their parents don't give much thought to safety at the community's lone school - mostly because some of the teachers are carrying concealed weapons.

In remote Harrold, the nearest sheriff's office is 30 minutes away, and people tend to know - and trust - one another. So the school board voted to let teachers bring guns to school.

"We don't have money for a security guard, but this is a better solution," Superintendent David Thweatt said. "A shooter could take out a guard or officer with a visible, holstered weapon, but our teachers have master's degrees, are older and have had extensive training. And their guns are hidden. We can protect our children."

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What sad times we live in when teachers need to be armed.

I would not want to have to worry about having to possibly shoot someone, most women teachers just want to teach their little children not engage in combat.
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conceal carry = less shootings in that town
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What sad times we live in when teachers need to be armed.

I would not want to have to worry about having to possibly shoot someone, most women teachers just want to teach their little children not engage in combat.
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The times are no different than they have ever been, the elite caused the massacre at that school, and if the elite didn't do it we wouldn't have massacres.

Think about it, whats the difference between 1950 and now? Nothing. Why would there be so many massacres? to take away our guns. Why would they do that?

To disarm us, and bring in the new world order.

Thats the whole plan, it's been that all along.

Thats why walmart exists, thats why huge companies dominate markets; if we don't have farms anymore then we cannot defend ourselves as a community, we cannot grow our own food, we can't do anything without the GOVERNMENT.
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"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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What sad times we live in when teachers need to be armed.

I would not want to have to worry about having to possibly shoot someone, most women teachers just want to teach their little children not engage in combat.
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The times are no different than they have ever been, the elite caused the massacre at that school, and if the elite didn't do it we wouldn't have massacres.

Think about it, whats the difference between 1950 and now? Nothing. Why would there be so many massacres? to take away our guns. Why would they do that?

To disarm us, and bring in the new world order.

Thats the whole plan, it's been that all along.

Thats why walmart exists, thats why huge companies dominate markets; if we don't have farms anymore then we cannot defend ourselves as a community, we cannot grow our own food, we can't do anything without the GOVERNMENT.
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Exactly. It's all part of the big plan to control populations of people. Divide and Conquer.

Our goverment has created the whole "Terrorist" scare also. If it were not for greedy goverments led by the elite then we could ALL be living a beautiful truly free life.
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So away with gun free zones and then all of a sudden there are no easy targets out there.

Then the perp has to consider instead of being a big shot after death with news worldwide showing how smart and efficient they are, ect. they may well end up dead and still in hell and nobody knows there name.

DETERRENTS work
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Here is a post I made in another thread: I work for a school district in Texas, thought it would be pertinent to post here as well.




An SRO is a sheriff that is assigned to a school. They handle crimes, fights, harassment in schools.

In Texas schools at least in Hays school district they are armed with standard police issue tasers/hand guns. They also have rifles and shot guns on lock down.


Currently all middle schools and high schools have 2 SROs on campus at all times, after this event our school district will be adding SROs to the elementary schools. All the entry points into the schools are now going to be equipped with ballistic glass.

As an addendum to this our school district has decided to take 3-10 voulenteer teachers depending on school size and deputize them and allow them to carry while in school.

There was a determination made that arming all teachers would be a bad idea, and alot of teachers ABSOLUTELY wanted nothing to do with being arms in their classrooms. When it was proposed to arm only a few voulenteers and put them through police training course for weapons and engagement training it was a unanimous decision.

That is the current plan that is going through approval. Here is a general link of other districts in texas adopting similar policies or at least considering them.

[link to www.foxnews.com]

Here is some other info:

For years, some areas in the US have allowed "armed classrooms" to deter (or truncate) future attacks, presumably by changing helpless victims into armed defenders. In 2008, Harrold Independent School District in Texas became the first public school district in the U.S. to allow teachers with state-issued firearm-carry permits to carry their arms in the classroom; special additional training and ricochet-resistant ammunition were required for participating teachers.[44] Students at the University of Utah have been allowed to carry concealed pistols (so long as they possess the appropriate state license) since a State Supreme Court decision in 2006.[45][46] In addition to Utah, Wisconsin and Mississippi each have legislation that allow students, faculty and employees with the proper permit, to carry concealed weapons on their public university's campuses.[47][48] Colorado and Oregon state courts have ruled in favor of Campus Carry laws by denying University's proposals to ban guns on campus. Ruling that the UC Board of Regents and the Oregon University System did not have the authority to ban weapons on campus.[49][50] A selective ban was then re-instated, wherein Oregon state universities enacted a ban on guns in school building and sporting events or by anyone contracted with the university in question.[51]
Michigan State University as of June 2009, allows students to carry firearms on campus, the university still prohibits knives and other non-firearm weapons however.
A commentary in the conservative National Review Online argues that the armed school approach for preventing school attacks, while new in the US, has been used successfully for many years in Israel and Thailand.[52] Teachers and school officials in Israel are allowed and encouraged to carry firearms if they have former military experience in the IDF, which almost all do. However, statistics on what percentage of teachers are actually armed are unavailable.

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What sad times we live in when teachers need to be armed.

I would not want to have to worry about having to possibly shoot someone, most women teachers just want to teach their little children not engage in combat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24063348


The times are no different than they have ever been, the elite caused the massacre at that school, and if the elite didn't do it we wouldn't have massacres.

Think about it, whats the difference between 1950 and now? Nothing. Why would there be so many massacres? to take away our guns. Why would they do that?

To disarm us, and bring in the new world order.


Thats the whole plan, it's been that all along.

Thats why walmart exists, thats why huge companies dominate markets; if we don't have farms anymore then we cannot defend ourselves as a community, we cannot grow our own food, we can't do anything without the GOVERNMENT.
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In this tiny Texas town, children and their parents don't give much thought to safety at the community's lone school - mostly because some of the teachers are carrying concealed weapons.

Wow, you murkins sure are messed up. To put the idea of safety all because some people carry guns.

Really, y'all are messed up.
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In this tiny Texas town, children and their parents don't give much thought to safety at the community's lone school - mostly because some of the teachers are carrying concealed weapons.

Wow, you murkins sure are messed up. To put the idea of safety all because some people carry guns.

Really, y'all are messed up.
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putin

With all the shit that's going on in this screwed up world of ours, you're damn right I'd feel safer knowing that these folks are packing.

Every single school/college shooting happened in gun free zones except for ONE.
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what's to stop someone like Adam lanza applying for a volunteer post as a gun carrier in a school?

he had no previous criminal record and most thought he was a highly intelligent polite but quiet young man.
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What sad times we live in when teachers need to be armed.

I would not want to have to worry about having to possibly shoot someone, most women teachers just want to teach their little children not engage in combat.
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What sad times? The Human race has been "engaged in combat" since day ONE. Read the Bible or any history book.

This life and planet are DANGEROUS. What kind of empty headed little fool thinks there was a time when it was all rainbows and unicorns pissed gold glitter to make flowers grow?

There has NEVER been a time when violence or death was NOT part of this existence.
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what's to stop someone like Adam lanza applying for a volunteer post as a gun carrier in a school?

he had no previous criminal record and most thought he was a highly intelligent polite but quiet young man.
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Extensive background check. Criminal history, MENTAL history, etc, etc.
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TOTALLY INSANE!!!

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we live in desperate times and desperate times require exteme actions.
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Yep
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TOTALLY INSANE!!!

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Protecting children is totally insane?
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we live in desperate times and desperate times require exteme actions.
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No, actually, we do not live in such times, stop fear mongering. We (in the US) are the MOST sheltered and over protected people anywhere and in any time recorded.

Seat belts, heated homes, cars with anti-lock breaks, hospitals, police, fire, emt professionals, in door plumbing, and everything else.

Very few die from thousands of things that killed people daily just a few decades ago.

Stop with the pity party, its bullshit propaganda.

Get a gun, learn to use it and stop being afraid of the MEDIA hype crap.
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TOTALLY INSANE!!!

waaahtahdribble
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Protecting children is totally insane?
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


GUNS don't protect children...PARENTS DO!

And, Christians aren't supposed to cuss like sailors!
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Thank God for the great state of Texas!! I use to live in Texas about 30 years ago; and it is a wonderful and free state. And it has some of the most dynamic Americans living in that state!! But I wish that the whole state of Texas allowed all of their teachers to carry guns once they are thoroughly trained and skilled in automatic weapons!! God loves Texas, and so do I!!
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what's to stop someone like Adam lanza applying for a volunteer post as a gun carrier in a school?

he had no previous criminal record and most thought he was a highly intelligent polite but quiet young man.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18725862


Extensive background check. Criminal history, MENTAL history, etc, etc.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Actually, no, that would not have changed anything and frankly, is an infringement on basic lawful rights that this nation is (or was) founded on.

You cannot govern or mandate safety.

Frankly, nothing personal, but your religious zealotry and support of Israel would be considered by many as a mental illness and the could make a good case for keeping guns out of YOUR hands, TXgal.

You may not like that fact, but it is a fact and it destroys your stand and post.

just sayin.
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Thank God for the great state of Texas!! I use to live in Texas about 30 years ago; and it is a wonderful and free state. And it has some of the most dynamic Americans living in that state!! But I wish that the whole state of Texas allowed all of their teachers to carry guns once they are thoroughly trained and skilled in automatic weapons!! God loves Texas, and so do I!!
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If their AIM is as bad as their students TEST SCORES...you folks are pathetic!
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TOTALLY INSANE!!!

waaahtahdribble
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30409982


Protecting children is totally insane?
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


GUNS don't protect children...PARENTS DO!

And, Christians aren't supposed to cuss like sailors!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30409982


And how are parents gonna protect their children when an armed lunatic barges into a school? As far as I know parents don't attend school with their kids.

Oh and spare me the cussing crap.
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what's to stop someone like Adam lanza applying for a volunteer post as a gun carrier in a school?

he had no previous criminal record and most thought he was a highly intelligent polite but quiet young man.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18725862


Extensive background check. Criminal history, MENTAL history, etc, etc.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Actually, no, that would not have changed anything and frankly, is an infringement on basic lawful rights that this nation is (or was) founded on.

You cannot govern or mandate safety.

Frankly, nothing personal, but your religious zealotry and support of Israel would be considered by many as a mental illness and the could make a good case for keeping guns out of YOUR hands, TXgal.

You may not like that fact, but it is a fact and it destroys your stand and post.

just sayin.
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lol

Your post speaks volumes. Just saying. ;-)
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TOTALLY INSANE!!!

waaahtahdribble
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30409982


Protecting children is totally insane?
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


GUNS don't protect children...PARENTS DO!

And, Christians aren't supposed to cuss like sailors!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30409982


And how are parents gonna protect their children when an armed lunatic barges into a school? As far as I know parents don't attend school with their kids.

Oh and spare me the cussing crap.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Gee,how about you raise and educate your own children at home?

Nothing about modern, Government institutional education (actually programming) is needed.

Lets face it, the majority do it because they want time away from their children so they can work or do what they want.

I have spent a good amount of time de-programing and "unlearning" the crap "they" taught me as truth in public schools.

It is an institution after all.
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TOTALLY INSANE!!!

waaahtahdribble
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30409982


Protecting children is totally insane?
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


GUNS don't protect children...PARENTS DO!

And, Christians aren't supposed to cuss like sailors!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30409982


And how are parents gonna protect their children when an armed lunatic barges into a school? As far as I know parents don't attend school with their kids.

Oh and spare me the cussing crap.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Only ex-Marine parents, huh?

Your 'fruits' are showing....
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Protecting children is totally insane?
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


GUNS don't protect children...PARENTS DO!

And, Christians aren't supposed to cuss like sailors!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30409982


And how are parents gonna protect their children when an armed lunatic barges into a school? As far as I know parents don't attend school with their kids.

Oh and spare me the cussing crap.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Only ex-Marine parents, huh?

Your 'fruits' are showing....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30409982


English?
So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
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You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed.

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