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Maybe This Sun Rising/Setting At Wrong Time Isn't So Wacky

 
Anonymous Coward
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12/20/2012 08:23 AM
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Maybe This Sun Rising/Setting At Wrong Time Isn't So Wacky
I've always been laughing and shaking my head over the years at all of these people on GLP who claim the sun has been rising and setting at the wrong times. I figured they were morons/morans who just finally started paying attention to what is going on around them.

After today, well now I'm not so sure.

I've been working from home in the upstate NY area for the past 15 years, and I am definitely an early bird. I've very well aware at what time the sun rises in the winter, because at that time of year I have to draw the curtains because for the first hour or so the sun is directly in my eyes.

Tomorrow is the winter solstice, meaning the sun should rise the latest it will during the entire year. During the winter the sun does not begin peaking above the horizon from my office window until around 7:40. Imagine my surprise today that before 7:30 the sun was already completely above the horizon!

I'll have to check tomorrow to see if that is consistent or a one-day anomaly. Our area being known for cloudiness does not help for day-to-day observations. I just know that what I saw today does not match the norm for the past 14 winters at my house.
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12/20/2012 08:35 AM
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Thanks for your awareness and posting in. The thread the other day was interesting. I didn't pay attention yesterday but will this afternoon if the clouds move out. Strange weather in South today. Wonder if it has anything to do with all of the criss cross trails yesterday. ;( Keep us posted!
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12/20/2012 08:45 AM
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Re: Maybe This Sun Rising/Setting At Wrong Time Isn't So Wacky
If anyone reading this thread hasn't already seen it, there is another thread (18 pages and counting) started on 12/18 that discusses this "phenomenon." Lots of theories and a lot of (attempted?) debunking by "shills", but it is interesting to say the least. I don't know how to link a thread, but if you GLP search "Missouri", you will find it.
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12/21/2012 10:35 AM
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Re: Maybe This Sun Rising/Setting At Wrong Time Isn't So Wacky
This is where we are discussing it.

Thread: The Sun Was Supposed To Set At 4:41 Central Time In Missouri, 12/18 , Still Hasn't Set At 5:01
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12/22/2012 08:25 AM
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Re: Maybe This Sun Rising/Setting At Wrong Time Isn't So Wacky
OP what time-keeping device/display are you going by?
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12/22/2012 11:16 PM
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12/24/2012 08:48 PM
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Re: Maybe This Sun Rising/Setting At Wrong Time Isn't So Wacky
I've always been laughing and shaking my head over the years at all of these people on GLP who claim the sun has been rising and setting at the wrong times. I figured they were morons/morans who just finally started paying attention to what is going on around them.

After today, well now I'm not so sure.

I've been working from home in the upstate NY area for the past 15 years, and I am definitely an early bird. I've very well aware at what time the sun rises in the winter, because at that time of year I have to draw the curtains because for the first hour or so the sun is directly in my eyes.

Tomorrow is the winter solstice, meaning the sun should rise the latest it will during the entire year. During the winter the sun does not begin peaking above the horizon from my office window until around 7:40. Imagine my surprise today that before 7:30 the sun was already completely above the horizon!

I'll have to check tomorrow to see if that is consistent or a one-day anomaly. Our area being known for cloudiness does not help for day-to-day observations. I just know that what I saw today does not match the norm for the past 14 winters at my house.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22687793


"During the winter"? That's just silly. Sunrise times will vary a great deal during the winter, so what you're saying can't possibly be accurate.

We look forward to your reporting of specific sunrise times as often as you can, clear through to to spring- please include pictures with a timepiece in the shot. I doubt you will. Personally, I think you are lying and trolling.
Yankee Doodle Society (OP)

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Well, we finally had a day when it wasn't totally cloudy at sunrise (sucks in this part of upstate NY). So I was able to get a reading this morning.

As per a previous question, what I use for time devices are my watch and my computer. My watch is set by listening to WWV in Fort Collins, CO (I have a shortwave radio). My computer is automatically synchronized by the Windows operating system to some atomic clock. So I am not "guessing" at the time - I know exactly what it is.

And when I earlier said I knew "what time the sun rises in the winter", I was referring to the variations that I know happen as the weeks progress. I know that in the dead of winter - the winter solstice - it will be around 7:40. As it gets toward March it will be around 7:05. I know when the sunlight is going to be coming in my office, as I have an east-facing window (along with one to the south).

As I observed on Dec 20, the sun had completely risen and was quite a bit above the horizon before 7:30.

Today - 19 days after the winter solstice - the first tip of the sun crested the horizon at 7:32, and the sun did not fully clear the horizon until 7:36.

And no - there are no hills or trees that could affect the readings over the past few days as the sun slowly begins to move to the north. It is exactly the same sight line.
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Re: Maybe This Sun Rising/Setting At Wrong Time Isn't So Wacky
Got any theories OP ?
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01/09/2013 11:21 AM
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Got any theories OP ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 907170


Hmmm - how about the comments and reader observations about changes to time that have been posted on the web site of the w3b b0t's partner in crime? (his name seems to be banned here too for some reason)
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01/09/2013 11:31 AM

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Personally, I think you are lying and trolling.
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Of course...
This is what you do..chuckle

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