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FWIW. I'm employed by the local School dist, one of the largest in the USA, about 70,000 students and....

while being in favor of Conceal carry (prefer open carry,I wish)...I'm not in favor of this idea.

I'm in maintenance and real fond of being shot at by "Miss Marple" because she did not recognize me and thought I was "there to Harm the Students"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5969114


That is the issue with it.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


With proper training.. this would not happen.
Even if it did.. why would he think his life is more important than a child's...?

A mop-holder is just not that precious in the grand scheme..
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When the first teachers shoots another teacher in some love triangle this "secret law" will be scuttled.
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...


So what is your plan, sparky..?

Continue to let innocents be slaughtered..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


well, maybe the "innocents" shouldn't go to places like that,
and then these things wouldn't happen.
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Are you endorsing home-schooling or did you just go full retard..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


wow! yer right. our schools really aren't safe. are they?
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the kids certainly aren't learning anything. they're just
government sponsored day-care centers.
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When the first teachers shoots another teacher in some love triangle this "secret law" will be scuttled.
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If that is going to happen... it will happen, regardless..

Gosh, you people are dense.
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12/20/2012 11:37 AM
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Being armed didn't help those at Ft Hood, what makes you think arming a civilian teacher would be any different.
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Shows how much you know, dumbass shill, those soldiers guns were locked away on base. Go away fucking liberal piece of shit
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I'm reasonably positive this is NOT the reaction most blatheringly ignorant people were hoping for as their chance to "get rid of those evil guns".

Also, Oklahoma is about to introduce (actually re-introduce) similar legislation as well.

cool2
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Yes, you know its severely pissing off the liberal gun grabbers that people are using common sense instead of emotional uselessness that they desire.
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Lmao, this is backfiring on obama and feinstein. Priceless. Gun shops and gun shows are booming and people are talking about MORE guns being the answer rather than less.
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FWIW. I'm employed by the local School dist, one of the largest in the USA, about 70,000 students and....

while being in favor of Conceal carry (prefer open carry,I wish)...I'm not in favor of this idea.

I'm in maintenance and real fond of being shot at by "Miss Marple" because she did not recognize me and thought I was "there to Harm the Students"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5969114


That is the issue with it.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


With proper training.. this would not happen.
Even if it did.. why would he think his life is more important than a child's...?

A mop-holder is just not that precious in the grand scheme..
 Quoting: Waterbug


If it makes you feel better to think of me as a "Mop Holder" then by all means knock yourself out.

but who is sitting home on 2 weeks PAID(your tax dollars) winter break..and that's on top of another 6 paid holidays + 3 weeks vacation, oh and almost forgot 18 paid "sick" days...

Mop Holder, my ass
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12/20/2012 11:47 AM
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You people are morons, do some reseacrch.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Arming a handful of trained/depustised teachers in combination with school SROs is an answer.

It has been going on for a long time in many schools already.

1992–1993 (44 Homicides and 55 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
1993–1994 (42 Homicides and 51 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
1994–1995 (17 Homicides and 20 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
1995–1996 (29 Homicides and 35 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
1996–1997 (23 Homicides and 25 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
1997–1998 (35 Homicides and 40 Deaths resulting from school shootings in the U.S.)
1998–1999 (25 Homicides from school shootings in the U.S.)
1999–2000 (25 Homicides from school shootings in the U.S.)


In 1994 many school districts began allowing CHL/CCH teachers to carry in thier classrooms, there is a downward trend.goaway

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FWIW. I'm employed by the local School dist, one of the largest in the USA, about 70,000 students and....

while being in favor of Conceal carry (prefer open carry,I wish)...I'm not in favor of this idea.

I'm in maintenance and real fond of being shot at by "Miss Marple" because she did not recognize me and thought I was "there to Harm the Students"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5969114


That is the issue with it.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


With proper training.. this would not happen.
Even if it did.. why would he think his life is more important than a child's...?

A mop-holder is just not that precious in the grand scheme..
 Quoting: Waterbug


If it makes you feel better to think of me as a "Mop Holder" then by all means knock yourself out.

but who is sitting home on 2 weeks PAID(your tax dollars) winter break..and that's on top of another 6 paid holidays + 3 weeks vacation, oh and almost forgot 18 paid "sick" days...

Mop Holder, my ass
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30411784


So.. you value your safety more than that of a defenseless child..
and you are proud to be a leech, as well..?

Good for you...

goof
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That is the issue with it.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


With proper training.. this would not happen.
Even if it did.. why would he think his life is more important than a child's...?

A mop-holder is just not that precious in the grand scheme..
 Quoting: Waterbug


If it makes you feel better to think of me as a "Mop Holder" then by all means knock yourself out.

but who is sitting home on 2 weeks PAID(your tax dollars) winter break..and that's on top of another 6 paid holidays + 3 weeks vacation, oh and almost forgot 18 paid "sick" days...

Mop Holder, my ass
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30411784


So.. you value your safety more than that of a defenseless child..
and you are proud to be a leech, as well..?

Good for you...

:goof:
 Quoting: Waterbug


this the best u got "waterbug"

Just where in my post do you get that I would value my life over anyone? especially a childs?
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With proper training.. this would not happen.
Even if it did.. why would he think his life is more important than a child's...?

A mop-holder is just not that precious in the grand scheme..
 Quoting: Waterbug


If it makes you feel better to think of me as a "Mop Holder" then by all means knock yourself out.

but who is sitting home on 2 weeks PAID(your tax dollars) winter break..and that's on top of another 6 paid holidays + 3 weeks vacation, oh and almost forgot 18 paid "sick" days...

Mop Holder, my ass
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30411784


So.. you value your safety more than that of a defenseless child..
and you are proud to be a leech, as well..?

Good for you...

goof
 Quoting: Waterbug


this the best u got "waterbug"

Just where in my post do you get that I would value my life over anyone? especially a childs?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30411784


FWIW. I'm employed by the local School dist, one of the largest in the USA, about 70,000 students and....

while being in favor of Conceal carry (prefer open carry,I wish)...I'm not in favor of this idea.

I'm in maintenance and real fond of being shot at by "Miss Marple" because she did not recognize me and thought I was "there to Harm the Students"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5969114
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If you are that frightened.. you could mop the floors at night..
when no teachers are present.
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If it makes you feel better to think of me as a "Mop Holder" then by all means knock yourself out.

but who is sitting home on 2 weeks PAID(your tax dollars) winter break..and that's on top of another 6 paid holidays + 3 weeks vacation, oh and almost forgot 18 paid "sick" days...

Mop Holder, my ass
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30411784


So.. you value your safety more than that of a defenseless child..
and you are proud to be a leech, as well..?

Good for you...

:goof:
 Quoting: Waterbug


this the best u got "waterbug"

Just where in my post do you get that I would value my life over anyone? especially a childs?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30411784


FWIW. I'm employed by the local School dist, one of the largest in the USA, about 70,000 students and....

while being in favor of Conceal carry (prefer open carry,I wish)...I'm not in favor of this idea.

I'm in maintenance and real fond of being shot at by "Miss Marple" because she did not recognize me and thought I was "there to Harm the Students"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5969114

 Quoting: Waterbug


I'm sorry but how does my not wanting to be shot by a armed teacher with a CCW, ever translate too me thinking my life is better that a childs?....sorry Dipshit But your Dots Don't Connect...wanna try again?
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If you are that frightened.. you could mop the floors at night..
when no teachers are present.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Ah, now it comes to light Winner Bug is just a run of the mill TROLL...

Later
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If you are that frightened.. you could mop the floors at night..
when no teachers are present.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Ah, now it comes to light Winner Bug is just a run of the mill TROLL...

Later
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30411784


Wow... truth hurts, don't it..?
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This is where I live and my mother is a teacher.

I am going with her in the next two weeks with her to get her ccw permit.

I am so proud of my mom, you guys just dont even know.

She recognizes that you can be a victim, or be proactive.

We all hope we would never have to use a gun in self defense, but it is nice to have that pound of metal pressed into your side if you ever need it.
War, War never changes...
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This is where I live and my mother is a teacher.

I am going with her in the next two weeks with her to get her ccw permit.

I am so proud of my mom, you guys just dont even know.

She recognizes that you can be a victim, or be proactive.

We all hope we would never have to use a gun in self defense, but it is nice to have that pound of metal pressed into your side if you ever need it.
 Quoting: PapaMidnite


Loos like she will have a fight on her hands.. from the janitors.
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Read some of the research out there - Sandy Hook Elementary was a 'Gun-Free' zone. People just will not look at what is in front of them when trying to find a start to a solution. You'd think that the horrific mass murder of school children and their brave Teachers, folks would put their own personal beliefs and political affiliations aside and get to workable answers...This is not difficult stuff...It takes Will and long term commitment..

[link to www.thecollegefix.com]

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If you love your kids and really want them to be safe, then you'll home school them ... and not send them to public or private schools - because they can't not be made "safe" ... "security" is delusional thinking
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I seem to recall 8 people being injured in crossfire in NY recently by trained cops.

Stupid idea.
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I seem to recall 8 people being injured in crossfire in NY recently by trained cops.

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did you notice that there was never any follow-up reporting
on that fiasco?
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it's the Wild Wild West all over again. nothing new.
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FWIW. I'm employed by the local School dist, one of the largest in the USA, about 70,000 students and....

while being in favor of Conceal carry (prefer open carry,I wish)...I'm not in favor of this idea.

I'm in maintenance and real fond of being shot at by "Miss Marple" because she did not recognize me and thought I was "there to Harm the Students"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5969114



shill

I've seen the comments before.... copy pasted in the other discussion.
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Why are American's so Triple A rated stupid?

And the hillbillie folks from Tennessee the most stupid of them all.

Why are they so unable to think beyond guns?

There are numerous other alternatives that are NEVER considered.

For instance, if you want people in schools who can act as a first line of defence, why not arm up some security guards with long bows. Remember, the Welsh Long Bow is capable of puncjing through 2 inches of mild steel at 100 yards and at ranges of under 10 feet has the same impacting pressure wave of a Point 50 Magnum.

A Long bow will incapacitate or seriously hospitalise a lone gun man, yet will rarely kill on first use AND speed of reloading drags makes it hard for anyone to create a "massacre situation".

However much you laugh, as showing in the film :"Weatherman" people really, really move away from you scared if you walk down the street with one.
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I seem to recall 8 people being injured in crossfire in NY recently by trained cops.

Stupid idea.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30307266



Now you are talking - disarm all the cops and VIP bodyguard outfits...even in the UK they would not be dumb enough not to have high powered fully automatic weaponry protecting the more valuable lives among us...They want to disarm the little people in case they aim high one day - this is the truth of it...defraying the 5th in the leftist political arena has zero to do with dead school children and everything to do with the safety of a few hypocrites...always look at the actions of your leaders from the left - none would be in favour of the tax-saving reduction of their own personal armed security...that would be unthinkable..
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it's the Wild Wild West all over again. nothing new.
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FWIW. I'm employed by the local School dist, one of the largest in the USA, about 70,000 students and....

while being in favor of Conceal carry (prefer open carry,I wish)...I'm not in favor of this idea.

I'm in maintenance and real fond of being shot at by "Miss Marple" because she did not recognize me and thought I was "there to Harm the Students"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5969114



shill

I've seen the comments before.... copy pasted in the other discussion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30119987


So, my instincts were correct.. again.
Thank you.
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I've seen the comments before.... copy pasted in the other discussion.
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in fact. the whole problem with this whole country
is that NOBODY has any respect for any of the authorities in this country, anywhere! (because none of them are deserving
of anyones respect!)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


one thing is for certain, though:

they certainly did show "the balloon boy" who's boss. didn't they.
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Well, I am from TN, and I say it's not going to happen. Obama is going to get rid of all guns. Feds are above state.
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Why are American's so Triple A rated stupid?

And the hillbillie folks from Tennessee the most stupid of them all.

Why are they so unable to think beyond guns?

There are numerous other alternatives that are NEVER considered.

For instance, if you want people in schools who can act as a first line of defence, why not arm up some security guards with long bows. Remember, the Welsh Long Bow is capable of puncjing through 2 inches of mild steel at 100 yards and at ranges of under 10 feet has the same impacting pressure wave of a Point 50 Magnum.

A Long bow will incapacitate or seriously hospitalise a lone gun man, yet will rarely kill on first use AND speed of reloading drags makes it hard for anyone to create a "massacre situation".

However much you laugh, as showing in the film :"Weatherman" people really, really move away from you scared if you walk down the street with one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30288790


Well, dude.. you are a moran.
You advocate the use of a longbow versus a firearm..?
Really..? How quaint.

And.. as for your premise that people from Tennessee are 'hillbillies'..
People from Tennessee are 'ridge-runners.'
Hillbillies are from Kentucky..

And, I have lived here for 37 years.. consider myself a 'Tennessean'.. although I am still a 'Canadian' by birth.

How do you like them apples....?