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Lips Of Lucifer

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Why are American's so Triple A rated stupid?

And the hillbillie folks from Tennessee the most stupid of them all.

Why are they so unable to think beyond guns?

There are numerous other alternatives that are NEVER considered.

For instance, if you want people in schools who can act as a first line of defence, why not arm up some security guards with long bows. Remember, the Welsh Long Bow is capable of puncjing through 2 inches of mild steel at 100 yards and at ranges of under 10 feet has the same impacting pressure wave of a Point 50 Magnum.

A Long bow will incapacitate or seriously hospitalise a lone gun man, yet will rarely kill on first use AND speed of reloading drags makes it hard for anyone to create a "massacre situation".

However much you laugh, as showing in the film :"Weatherman" people really, really move away from you scared if you walk down the street with one.
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It is only a matter of time before Canada has its first horrific outrage for reasons to numerous to mention - it will happen in a town near you....tic toc
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I fail to see even the slightest connection between my post and the reply to it... it gives the impression that the poster has severe autism.
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Arming teachers while not inherently a bad idea has LOTS of problems.

Will the guns be locked up but available to the teacher?

Will they be openly carried?

Will the teacher REALLY be trained to be accurate when firing under pressure (MOST police, who have continual recurrent training, TOTALLY MISS when engaged in a gun battle, even when only 15 feet away - seems being shot BACK at detroys one's concentration and aim)

What will schools do if an ARMED TEACHER goes off the deep end and shoots someone who is unarmed, but who they claim they "thought" was armed?


What will schools do if an ARMED TEACHER shoots students, particularly unruly students who are in a major league fight? (in my older son's middle school the fights sometimes got so bad not even ALL the male teachers on staff working in unison could break them up and they had to await the police to show up and start pepper spraying and tasering people in order to end the fight)


LOTS of potential problems and potentially MORE shooting in schools than caused by outsiders coming in if weapons are available and NOT under the control of the Principal or Office.

Our State Attorney General yesterday said it was OK under out laws IF the local school board set out a policy AND the guns were KEPT LOCKED UP but quickly available to TRAINED teachers or staff, people who have been through the full Peace Officer Training/Certification Program. (which is a LOT more involved than just a CCW Permit)
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I fail to see even the slightest connection between my post and the reply to it... it gives the impression that the poster has severe autism.
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Why are they so unable to think beyond guns?

You Ya?
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In its upcoming session tn will be considering a plan to secretly arm teachers so perps wont know who is armed and who isn't. This will work like the sky marshall program. Read more here.
[link to www.businessinsider.com]
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Insanity. What a great country you have made for yourselves!
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I think the reply from Tennessee shows just how stupid they are.

Keep all guns out of school and someone walks in and another Newtown massacre.

Arm up teachers and someone punches out teach and grabs their gun and a new Newtown Massacre.

Arm up guard with long bows as a first line of defence and there is no risk of anyone else grabbing the weapon and causing a weapon because by the time they've loaded their next shot, all the kids are on the school bus on their wa home.

But if some jerk, probably from Tennessee, walks in for some fun killing kids, he'll (of she'll if it's a sickos from Tennessee) face being crippled by a bunch of guards aiming at just one target - him.

Above all, however, one thing is clear in this debate. People from Tennessee need to be kept the f**k out of it. In 52 years I have never, never met a single person from Tennessee who isn't a thick, ignorant, aggressive primadonna, obsessed with shallow bunk - it's like the bottom of the human barrel down there. I guess its a example to all of us if inbreeding with your sister and your ma is left unchecked for a couple of hundred years.
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Why are American's so Triple A rated stupid?

And the hillbillie folks from Tennessee the most stupid of them all.

Why are they so unable to think beyond guns?

There are numerous other alternatives that are NEVER considered.

For instance, if you want people in schools who can act as a first line of defence, why not arm up some security guards with long bows. Remember, the Welsh Long Bow is capable of puncjing through 2 inches of mild steel at 100 yards and at ranges of under 10 feet has the same impacting pressure wave of a Point 50 Magnum.

A Long bow will incapacitate or seriously hospitalise a lone gun man, yet will rarely kill on first use AND speed of reloading drags makes it hard for anyone to create a "massacre situation".

However much you laugh, as showing in the film :"Weatherman" people really, really move away from you scared if you walk down the street with one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30288790


Well, dude.. you are a moran.
You advocate the use of a longbow versus a firearm..?
Really..? How quaint.

And.. as for your premise that people from Tennessee are 'hillbillies'..
People from Tennessee are 'ridge-runners.'
Hillbillies are from Kentucky..

And, I have lived here for 37 years.. consider myself a 'Tennessean'.. although I am still a 'Canadian' by birth.

How do you like them apples....?
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I fail to see even the slightest connection between my post and the reply to it... it gives the impression that the poster has severe autism.
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Let me help you with that..

You categorized 'Tennesseans' as 'hillbillies' and stupid.
I set the record straight.

You advocated a 'longbow' versus a 'firearm' as a
more suitable weapon in defense of schoolchildren.
I called you on it..

I am a Tennessean, not stupid, a Canadian by birth..
and by calling you on your idiocy.. remove the impression that all Canadians are idiots.

Accusing me of having 'autism' doesn't relieve you of
making the impression of being a moran.

Do you see the 'slightest connection', now..?
Lips Of Lucifer

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In its upcoming session tn will be considering a plan to secretly arm teachers so perps wont know who is armed and who isn't. This will work like the sky marshall program. Read more here.
[link to www.businessinsider.com]
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Insanity. What a great country you have made for yourselves!
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Here's a fun scenario for UK public schooling...did you know the Global Security Corp, GS4, is currently in negotiations with that Capitalist Pirate you call Camoran to procure tax-grunting tenders to protect the little ones for healthy profit? Prole Violence is profitable...when the little ones bleed, the Pigs Feed..
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Why are American's so Triple A rated stupid?

And the hillbillie folks from Tennessee the most stupid of them all.

Why are they so unable to think beyond guns?

There are numerous other alternatives that are NEVER considered.

For instance, if you want people in schools who can act as a first line of defence, why not arm up some security guards with long bows. Remember, the Welsh Long Bow is capable of puncjing through 2 inches of mild steel at 100 yards and at ranges of under 10 feet has the same impacting pressure wave of a Point 50 Magnum.

A Long bow will incapacitate or seriously hospitalise a lone gun man, yet will rarely kill on first use AND speed of reloading drags makes it hard for anyone to create a "massacre situation".

However much you laugh, as showing in the film :"Weatherman" people really, really move away from you scared if you walk down the street with one.
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It is only a matter of time before Canada has its first horrific outrage for reasons to numerous to mention - it will happen in a town near you....tic toc
 Quoting: Lips Of Lucifer


What DO they see, they live off the land, they'll SEE IT first. What do they KNOW that everyone else IS ignoring. Remember, they STILL HAVE VERY CLOSE FAMILIES, and HISTORIES that are NOT MADE UP for the REST of the masses.

Hicks are left alone, but they are STILL MAN, with ALL the opportunities to come out of the hole they've been left in, think Aboriginals, smart like an idiot, and dumb like a fox.
Survival, they've MASTERED it.
Think. Kay?
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I think the reply from Tennessee shows just how stupid they are.

Keep all guns out of school and someone walks in and another Newtown massacre.

Arm up teachers and someone punches out teach and grabs their gun and a new Newtown Massacre.

Arm up guard with long bows as a first line of defence and there is no risk of anyone else grabbing the weapon and causing a weapon because by the time they've loaded their next shot, all the kids are on the school bus on their wa home.

But if some jerk, probably from Tennessee, walks in for some fun killing kids, he'll (of she'll if it's a sickos from Tennessee) face being crippled by a bunch of guards aiming at just one target - him.

Above all, however, one thing is clear in this debate. People from Tennessee need to be kept the f**k out of it. In 52 years I have never, never met a single person from Tennessee who isn't a thick, ignorant, aggressive primadonna, obsessed with shallow bunk - it's like the bottom of the human barrel down there. I guess its a example to all of us if inbreeding with your sister and your ma is left unchecked for a couple of hundred years.
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Care to explain to all of the dumbasses here in the states.. why Canada is easing their gun restrictions..?

Brainiac..?
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While you are at it..

Explain this.. you self-righteous, hypocritical bastard.

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Being armed didn't help those at Ft Hood, what makes you think arming a civilian teacher would be any different.
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The soldiers at Ft Hood weren't armed, stupid. What, do you think that all soldiers on state side bases carry around M4s? Only the MPs are armed except during training.

What you are suggesting is that a gunman is some type of omnipotent being that can't be killed.....except by law enforcement I suppose.

No, a teacher should be able to shoot as well as the typical unskilled madman.
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So you are tellingme that there wasn't one gun on site at FT Hood?

bsflag
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Hey asswhipe....weapons everywhere....no ammunition is given to anyone except ranking MPs.....STFU
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Arm up teachers and someone punches out teach and grabs their gun and a new Newtown Massacre.




stfu
OH yea....those bad ass 5-10 year olds.....can't imagine how many teachers would find them any problem.....asshat
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Yeah.. Tn is the best...
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Arm up teachers and someone punches out teach and grabs their gun and a new Newtown Massacre.




stfu
OH yea....those bad ass 5-10 year olds.....can't imagine how many teachers would find them any problem.....asshat
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look folks, 10% of the entire human population is totally batshit crazy, and it always has been that way. learn to live with it.
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Why are American's so Triple A rated stupid?

And the hillbillie folks from Tennessee the most stupid of them all.

Why are they so unable to think beyond guns?

There are numerous other alternatives that are NEVER considered.

For instance, if you want people in schools who can act as a first line of defence, why not arm up some security guards with long bows. Remember, the Welsh Long Bow is capable of puncjing through 2 inches of mild steel at 100 yards and at ranges of under 10 feet has the same impacting pressure wave of a Point 50 Magnum.

A Long bow will incapacitate or seriously hospitalise a lone gun man, yet will rarely kill on first use AND speed of reloading drags makes it hard for anyone to create a "massacre situation".

However much you laugh, as showing in the film :"Weatherman" people really, really move away from you scared if you walk down the street with one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30288790


It is only a matter of time before Canada has its first horrific outrage for reasons to numerous to mention - it will happen in a town near you....tic toc
 Quoting: Lips Of Lucifer


What DO they see, they live off the land, they'll SEE IT first. What do they KNOW that everyone else IS ignoring. Remember, they STILL HAVE VERY CLOSE FAMILIES, and HISTORIES that are NOT MADE UP for the REST of the masses.

Hicks are left alone, but they are STILL MAN, with ALL the opportunities to come out of the hole they've been left in, think Aboriginals, smart like an idiot, and dumb like a fox.
Survival, they've MASTERED it.
Think. Kay?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1327743



They see an increase in 3rd world immigration to the friendly continent...they see locals with new neighbors who slaughter cows or sheep in their new backyards according to their primitive customs, as the locals children watch though the fence...They see a Canadian version of Anders Breivik taking back Canada from the invading hordes..they see locked doors and private security products being bought across Canada and an increase in turn over of those multinationals 'invested' in Canada's new found violence...this they see my friend...it's coming your way like a blood tsunami...Canada is the global Corp's low hanging fruit when it come to security potential..You and your children are ripe for profit taking...as it was in Newtown - now you can buy Bullet Proof back-packs for children while stocks last, thanks to the Sandy Hook Massacre Incorp.

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Arm up teachers and someone punches out teach and grabs their gun and a new Newtown Massacre.




stfu
OH yea....those bad ass 5-10 year olds.....can't imagine how many teachers would find them any problem.....asshat
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30288790


look folks, 10% of the entire human population is totally batshit crazy, and it always has been that way. learn to live with it.
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it's a statistical problem. that's all.
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About damn time they did something about the psyhco attracting "defense-free" zones.

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Still no comeback..?

I guess Tennesseans aren't as dumb as portrayed by our Canadian blowhard, are they..?

Don't get me wrong.. I love Canada.
It is one of the greatest places on Earth.
Clean, wild and mostly pristine.

What bugs the shit out of me, is the few self-righteous blowhards,
so naive as to think that Canada is not involved in arming the world.
80% of the weapons and related items, manufactured in Canada, are sold to the US.
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Still no comeback..?

I guess Tennesseans aren't as dumb as portrayed by our Canadian blowhard, are they..?


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don't forget that Tennessee gave us the "Scopes Trial"
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Still no comeback..?

I guess Tennesseans aren't as dumb as portrayed by our Canadian blowhard, are they..?


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don't forget that Tennessee gave us the "Scopes Trial"
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I'm not saying there aren't dogmatic religious zealots here.
I'm merely countering the stereotype of a state full of dummies.
Vanderbilt University is here.
ORNL is here.
The heart and soul of country music is here.

This state has an abundance of brilliant minds in residence.
It is not a 'Hee Haw' studio production.
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Still no comeback..?

I guess Tennesseans aren't as dumb as portrayed by our Canadian blowhard, are they..?


 Quoting: Waterbug


don't forget that Tennessee gave us the "Scopes Trial"
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


I'm not saying there aren't dogmatic religious zealots here.
I'm merely countering the stereotype of a state full of dummies.
Vanderbilt University is here.
ORNL is here.
The heart and soul of country music is here.


This state has an abundance of brilliant minds in residence.
It is not a 'Hee Haw' studio production.
 Quoting: Waterbug


5a

It is quite Beautiful to watch..
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In its upcoming session tn will be considering a plan to secretly arm teachers so perps wont know who is armed and who isn't. This will work like the sky marshall program. Read more here.
[link to www.businessinsider.com]
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My wife is a public school teacher here in Tennessee.

She has a carry permit and is 100% on board with this. She is going to contact our country sheriff and state representatives to see how she can become involved in getting this legislation passed.

Finally, common-sense laws. Only the people who want our children in danger are opposed to this. I don't know why it's so hard for these anti-gun lunatics to understand.
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Still no comeback..?

I guess Tennesseans aren't as dumb as portrayed by our Canadian blowhard, are they..?


 Quoting: Waterbug


don't forget that Tennessee gave us the "Scopes Trial"
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


I'm not saying there aren't dogmatic religious zealots here.
I'm merely countering the stereotype of a state full of dummies.
Vanderbilt University is here.
ORNL is here.
The heart and soul of country music is here.

This state has an abundance of brilliant minds in residence.
It is not a 'Hee Haw' studio production.
 Quoting: Waterbug


The Nashville Parthenon, with statue of Athena gilded with
8 pounds of 24k gold leaf.

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Quite frankly I am amazed at the sort of guns that can be bought over the counter in the US. It is no wonder mass shootings like this happen.

People don't need these weapons and shouldn't have them.
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I'm not saying there aren't dogmatic religious zealots here.
I'm merely countering the stereotype of a state full of dummies.
Vanderbilt University is here.
ORNL is here.
The heart and soul of country music is here.

This state has an abundance of brilliant minds in residence.
It is not a 'Hee Haw' studio production.
 Quoting: Waterbug


The Nashville Parthenon, with statue of Athena gilded with
8 pounds of 24k gold leaf.

[link to 4.bp.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


when i visited the Nashville Parthenon in 1972, all they
has was an itty bitty two foot tall statue of Athena setting
in that spot.

Bravo! well done Nashville!!!
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The Nashville Parthenon, with statue of Athena gilded with
8 pounds of 24k gold leaf.

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Truly awesome. Much beauty can be found here.
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Why are American's so Triple A rated stupid?

And the hillbillie folks from Tennessee the most stupid of them all.

Why are they so unable to think beyond guns?

There are numerous other alternatives that are NEVER considered.

For instance, if you want people in schools who can act as a first line of defence, why not arm up some security guards with long bows. Remember, the Welsh Long Bow is capable of puncjing through 2 inches of mild steel at 100 yards and at ranges of under 10 feet has the same impacting pressure wave of a Point 50 Magnum.

A Long bow will incapacitate or seriously hospitalise a lone gun man, yet will rarely kill on first use AND speed of reloading drags makes it hard for anyone to create a "massacre situation".

However much you laugh, as showing in the film :"Weatherman" people really, really move away from you scared if you walk down the street with one.
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That has got to be the most stupid thing I have ever heard the long bow was lucky to go through 1/16 inch of steel. A long bow with a 60 lb pull shoots a 540 grain arrow 185 fps which equals 40.9 ft/lbs of energy a .22 long rifle stinger has 190 ft/lbs of energy and a 5.56x45 has around 1300 ft/lbs. the only advantage is a arrow has sharp tips.
You need to look at history a hand cannon which wasn't much more than a pipe with a hole in it tied to a stick made them obsolete.

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In its upcoming session tn will be considering a plan to secretly arm teachers so perps wont know who is armed and who isn't. This will work like the sky marshall program. Read more here.
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Now what if the teacher loses her/ his patience and gets hostile in the classroom?
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In its upcoming session tn will be considering a plan to secretly arm teachers so perps wont know who is armed and who isn't. This will work like the sky marshall program. Read more here.
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Now what if the teacher loses her/ his patience and gets hostile in the classroom?
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What if the school got hit with an asteroid.
What IF's are just endless possibilities and shouldn't be taken seriously.

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