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FL, MN, OK, OR, SD, TN are drafting GUN legislation to allow teachers to carry in schools

 
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"People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both."

B Franklin (1775)- still true
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Ban all advertising that states, "7 out of 8 DOCTORS recommend, Camels.. er, Paxil, er, Zoloft, Ambien...."

If they can Ban Cigarette ads on TV ... "for the good of the nation" they can also ban Drug ads on TV.
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Times are a changing MANDATE IT. Oh and bring back GOD he doesn't like being left out of our affairs.
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Idiot, God never left, you did.
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NOT SO in CT !

Lawmakers sill changing underwear, constantly !

BUT, they WILL think up some 'new' law, statute, regulation SOON, that WILL bring in MORE MONEY to the state by fines, fees and charges they haven't already passed !
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Man isn't that the truth....grew up and my best friends dad had a very cool rifle collection....not assault weapon types but hunting rifles from around the world....the tax is so high here per weapon it forced him to sell off most of his possessions!!!
Was a damn shame too!!!
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Never met anyone important enough to lie to.....
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I heard Arizona is also considering it to in the wake of you-know-what.

Let Teachers Carry Guns? Some State Lawmakers Say Yes

By Mark Memmott

published on Wed December 19, 2012 12:52 pm

There are reports from a variety of states about local lawmakers who want to give teachers the right to bring guns to school. They're making the case that school shootings such as the one Friday in Newtown, Conn., that left 20 small children and six adults dead could be prevented or stopped if some school staffers were armed.

Monday, Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) said that teachers with licenses to carry concealed handguns should have "access to weapons in their school."

[link to www.knau.org]
 Quoting: Nexus-9


Yes, THIS is HOW to DEAL WITH BULLIES, EVERYWHERE.
Bullies want you to leave your guns at home, Kay?
THINK!!
NO MORE BULLIES, ANYWHERE!
The psychopaths FROM THE TOP DOWN, are VERY ascared of lead.
Keep it close. got kids? I ask this often, because it seems that you just got them, and don't know HOW to CARE for them yet, or something .. . let alone YOURSELVES..
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well couldnt a fucked up teacher do the same thing as lanza and shoot his/her students?
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the assault rifle ban will go into effect, my friend,
because it only takes one single, itty-bitty little missing part (that is readily available on the under-the-counter-market) to make any of these semi-autos fully auto-matic.
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You're talking about a $250,000 fine and at least 10 years in the Fed pen for anyone who did that (without a Class 3 tax stamp).

Why? You having ideas?
 Quoting: Nexus-9


every gun-jerk, every gun-creep, every gun-tard all over the
country has got those "missing parts" for their semi-autos.
you can be certain of that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896


Where are you getting this info? It takes an new lower receiver, or some actual machine work on the existing receiver and trigger assembly. Certainly not jsut a missing part.

Once again....RUMOR stated as fact.

cheers
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all semi-autos will be banned. live with it.

(and buy yerself a sling-shot)
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don't be a creep around the kids and Miss Marple will have no reason to shoot you.
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Just knowing teachers have guns would prevent psychos bringing guns into schools
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I hope AR does too
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well couldnt a fucked up teacher do the same thing as lanza and shoot his/her students?
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Any teacher that screwed up will do it anyway.
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Wow, that's terrifying.

I can't believe some of you think this is a good thing. I seriously hope some of these kids learn how to defend themselves.
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Why not try a Life Alert-
Why not try having teachers, etc. wear a life alert alarm. You could possibly add a camera? They could wear it around their necks, and tap it a couple of times to set off the alarm. What do you think?
I posted this previously, but it was quickly buried.
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Jesus Christ, how long before a group of smart ass kids gets an armed teacher to snap and go postal?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3168735


NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!

My wife is a H. S. Principal of a very large School. This is absolutely the wrong approach.

She is LOCKING DOWN her H. S. and the Super is locking down all their other schools, about 12 of them, throughout the district.

They're bringing in a company to massively increase physical security and demanding/contracting with, the County for 11 additional DARE/SRO officers from the county.

Please don't put a gun in Wife's hands as the Principal and expect her to use it properly. She would be devastated if she hurt any of her 2,300+ kids that she loves with all her heart...and would lay down her life to save even one of them from this kind of thing first.
 Quoting: Top Hat


Security had just been increased a the school where the shooting happened at. That didn't save the children. The only weapon the principal had to save her children was her body. He used a couple of bullets on her and went on to kill an entire classroom of children.

Perhaps you and your wife need to get over your irrational fear of being able to protect oneself and get her to a gun range. Or at least get her some pepper spray and teacher her how to use it.

Liberalism really is a mental disorder.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower

It seems so commonly said, 'I would lay down my life... ".. but these same people refuse to 'lay down their heart..."... Easier to die than it is is to live with a broken heart because you had no choice but to kill someone to defend others.
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Please understand Obama declared the US a war zone.
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Look at your flag, it is the War Flag of the USA. Clue.
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I'm willing to give this a try.

Also, classrooms are designed with one exit that lead into a hallway. These kids are sitting ducks. Assuming there is only one shooter I would like my kids have an escape route out of the building.
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"Security" always build Box Canyons, for the herd to corral for easy killing.
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... You noobs talking about the kids getting the teachers gun .. common now obviously you have never heard of Biometrics.. Yeah maybe the tech is still a bit premature and might have flaws but if this was going to be pushed then this tech can surely be improved upon.. PROBLEM SOLVED! In Fact i think Bio- Metrics should be required for all guns this will solve the problem of someone stealing someone else's gun and using it.
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So that's the plan, even more blood. I feared it would be so, keep safe the gun and ban the children burnit
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My great grand mother and father and all of their 13 children, all had (at least from the time they were five years old) 1 shotgun, 1 rifle, and 1 pistol. They were all sharp shots. None of them killed any other person, none of them were killed.

Keep the guns and the children and teach your children well.
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I'm going to write my State reps and county sheriff in TN and tell them I support this legislation.

If you live in one of these states, please do the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1144869


I would recommend you go through the proposed legislation with a fine toothed comb and fully understand the law purposed, on each little jot and tittle, every word, every phrase, every clause, every sentence... and work to understand the desired consequences and consider the possible unintended consequences before you do such equally knee-jerk thing as approve of the passage of a law just because is 'seems' its going to do the desired job and 'others' are in favor of it -- usually these will have taken even less care to read and understand it then even perhaps you.

Law, that is to say, Legislation is not for the weak minded, its is very difficult to draw up legislation as a purposeful.

Consider also that you yourself are only one vote among thousands or tens of thousand or even millions of others your your same State Legislative District.
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A psychopath can easily pass evaluations, just like pedos who find jobs in education.

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So true.

This is also a reason so many of L.E.O. are now tazering people to death. Or putting tens of bullets in some 'perp'.
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the only defense against a Gun is a GUN.. Even if they banned all weapons in the US it should still be mandatory guns in schools to protect against the crazy criminal.. Right now they have them banned in the only place they should be mandatory,, schools,,, protecting the children.. duh.. Its mandatory,, any incident is over in minutes far before any cop shows up,, use your common sence people,, Hire retired cop to sit at a dest up front or anything..
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So that's the plan, even more blood. I feared it would be so, keep safe the gun and ban the children burnit
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My great grand mother and father and all of their 13 children, all had (at least from the time they were five years old) 1 shotgun, 1 rifle, and 1 pistol. They were all sharp shots. None of them killed any other person, none of them were killed.

Keep the guns and the children and teach your children well.
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Well, unfortunately many other family's will not be able to tell such a story. Weapons are lethal and not for everyone.
This situation development is disastrous and destructive.
Help yourself and God will help you also.
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I heard Arizona is also considering it to in the wake of you-know-what.

Let Teachers Carry Guns? Some State Lawmakers Say Yes


 Quoting: Nexus-9


are they trying to turn everything upside down and into the most bizzare life since "wild west" kind of life vanished?

or... let teachers to shoot kids instead to teach them 1dunno1 crazy
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I can just see it now, Junior approached by Teacher for sexual favors, Junior doesn't have even a knife, or a pair of blunt scissor. Teacher has hand gun. Teacher rapes junior, and theatens to shoot junior dead if junior tells.

Hmmm....

Say you want teachers to carry guns in schools... or even principles for that matter.



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Why is that even in your head? What a sick fuck you are.
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You have no awareness of Human Nature, because your soul is very very sick.
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I can't believe the support for this insanity.

It's no better than banning Guns as the Obama administration seeks to do. This is just preparing kids for prison. This is almost fascism..
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Jesus H. Christ - what does it take to get an education these days?

Learning is best achieved by being in a safe, relaxed environment.

Our children will continue to be dumbed down - mainly out of FEAR of being shot - by somebody - in public education institutions. Or on the streets. Or in the home. Wherever. Who the hell can learn ANYTHING in such an environment?

I never thought it would get THIS bad. But then, TPTB are nasty, evil scum and are having their way with us. Shocking, but not unexpected.

Time to teach the children our collective new 'reality' will require courses in firearms and situational awareness - if any of us expect to survive.

It's now a Mad Max world. Never thought I'd see the day but here it is. Lock 'n load.
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Arming teachers while not inherently a bad idea has LOTS of problems.

Will the guns be locked up but available to the teacher?

Will they be openly carried?

Will the teacher REALLY be trained to be accurate when firing under pressure (MOST police, who have continual recurrent training, TOTALLY MISS when engaged in a gun battle, even when only 15 feet away - seems being shot BACK at detroys one's concentration and aim)

What will schools do if an ARMED TEACHER goes off the deep end and shoots someone who is unarmed, but who they claim they "thought" was armed?


What will schools do if an ARMED TEACHER shoots students, particularly unruly students who are in a major league fight? (in my older son's middle school the fights sometimes got so bad not even ALL the male teachers on staff working in unison could break them up and they had to await the police to show up and start pepper spraying and tasering people in order to end the fight)


LOTS of potential problems and potentially MORE shooting in schools than caused by outsiders coming in if weapons are available and NOT under the control of the Principal or Office.

Our State Attorney General yesterday said it was OK under out laws IF the local school board set out a policy AND the guns were KEPT LOCKED UP but quickly available to TRAINED teachers or staff, people who have been through the full Peace Officer Training/Certification Program. (which is a LOT more involved than just a CCW Permit)
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Jesus H. Christ - what does it take to get an education these days?

Learning is best achieved by being in a safe, relaxed environment.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12432310


the education system in america began crumbling in the 1970s,
and here we are today.

we have folks graduating from college who can't read or
do arithmetic, because the universities need the revenue.
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I can't believe the support for this insanity.

It's no better than banning Guns as the Obama administration seeks to do. This is just preparing kids for prison. This is almost fascism..
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Fascism on one hand, Communism on the other. Remember both are controlled opposite against the Middle -- you and me.
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Jesus H. Christ - what does it take to get an education these days?

Learning is best achieved by being in a safe, relaxed environment.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12432310


the education system in america began crumbling in the 1970s,
and here we are today.

we have folks graduating from college who can't read or
do arithmetic, because the universities need the revenue.
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


... the more the schools come to resemble prisons, yes.

Smaller school, smaller class sizes in those smaller schools. Undo many of the problems.
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Jesus H. Christ - what does it take to get an education these days?

Learning is best achieved by being in a safe, relaxed environment.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12432310


the education system in america began crumbling in the 1970s,
and here we are today.

we have folks graduating from college who can't read or
do arithmetic, because the universities need the revenue.
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


... the more the schools come to resemble prisons, yes.

Smaller school, smaller class sizes in those smaller schools. Undo many of the problems.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27972246


it's too late. the situation is hopeless.

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