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FL, MN, OK, OR, SD, TN are drafting GUN legislation to allow teachers to carry in schools

 
lemmik1900

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Jesus Christ, how long before a group of smart ass kids gets an armed teacher to snap and go postal?
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With that kind of logic, I'm surprised that you are not freaked out because police officers have guns.
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"People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both."

B Franklin (1775)- still true
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The only one who loses freedom in this case is the psycho who wants to shoot up a school...
Are you not ok with that??
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12/20/2012 02:46 PM
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Jesus Christ, how long before a group of smart ass kids gets an armed teacher to snap and go postal?
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With that kind of logic, I'm surprised that you are not freaked out because police officers have guns.
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Stockholm syndrome

ohyeah
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12/20/2012 02:49 PM
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Yes, they should require at least one teacher with a gun for every 10 classrooms/teachers. I am a teacher and I think this could work. We prob have about 100 teachers, so thats 10 guns against 1 if anyone is ever stupid enough to try to pull something.
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There is no doubt in my mind that this will ABSOLUTELY work.

The thing is though, each teacher/staff that gets qualified for this must carry concealed. This way any lunatics don't know who is carrying and who isn't.

Make the schools a "hard" target. It's basic common sense, built upon thousands of years of fundamental military doctrine. Why don't lunatics shoot up police stations? Because all the cops have GUNS.

My wife is a public school teacher, and she has a permit. We are in TN and she is going to do what she can to get on board with actively trying to get this legislation passed in our state.

To all you anti-gun imbeciles: Only criminals will refuse to obey a "gun free zone" - they simply disarm the good guys.
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Jesus Christ, how long before a group of smart ass kids gets an armed teacher to snap and go postal?
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With that kind of logic, I'm surprised that you are not freaked out because police officers have guns.
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Stockholm syndrome

ohyeah
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Definition:
Stockholm syndrome, or capture-bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy, sympathy and have positive feelings towards their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness. The FBI’s Hostage Barricade Database System shows that roughly 27% of victims show evidence of Stockholm Syndrome.

Seems to be legit.

And for the custodian who is scared that Miss Marples might shoot him,....go find a new job.
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Yes, they should require at least one teacher with a gun for every 10 classrooms/teachers. I am a teacher and I think this could work. We prob have about 100 teachers, so thats 10 guns against 1 if anyone is ever stupid enough to try to pull something.
 Quoting: Machine42


There is no doubt in my mind that this will ABSOLUTELY work.

The thing is though, each teacher/staff that gets qualified for this must carry concealed. This way any lunatics don't know who is carrying and who isn't.

Make the schools a "hard" target. It's basic common sense, built upon thousands of years of fundamental military doctrine. Why don't lunatics shoot up police stations? Because all the cops have GUNS.

My wife is a public school teacher, and she has a permit. We are in TN and she is going to do what she can to get on board with actively trying to get this legislation passed in our state.

To all you anti-gun imbeciles: Only criminals will refuse to obey a "gun free zone" - they simply disarm the good guys.
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There was always criminals and will be, but as we know they do not kill children in schools. You just need a "little" dose of realism to figure this out.
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12/20/2012 03:16 PM
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they should undergo extensive background and psychological tests, and be a excellent shot.
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Jesus Christ, how long before a group of smart ass kids gets an armed teacher to snap and go postal?
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With that kind of logic, I'm surprised that you are not freaked out because police officers have guns.
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12/20/2012 03:38 PM
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Would tazers be effective against a nut with a gun?
"When you don't keep your word, you lose credibility and trustworthy friends"
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12/20/2012 03:39 PM
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!!!YES!!!

Smart Move ...
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Would tazers be effective against a nut with a gun?
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teachers are childrens cops...
they dont need to teach anymore, tablets and software do that.
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teachers are childrens cops...
they dont need to teach anymore, tablets and software do that.
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idk im in teaching classes right now and we go teach third graders a few times in the semester and then watch the actual teacher teach.... well they use programs like ur talking about to teach math and the kids dont pay attention at all
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12/20/2012 03:53 PM

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Why not try a Life Alert-
Why not try having teachers, etc. wear a life alert alarm. You could possibly add a camera? They could wear it around their necks, and tap it a couple of times to set off the alarm. What do you think?
I posted this previously, but it was quickly buried.
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Well, the first responders could get there faster maybe.

As has been said before, the police are more often investigating a crime rather than stopping it in the midst of commission.
Adversity is inevitable, misery is optional.

Do or do not. There is no try.

"The enemy will never attack where you are strongest...He will attack where you are weakest. If you do not know your weakest point, be certain, your enemy will." Sun Tzu
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12/20/2012 04:01 PM
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A poster mentioned using a taser. I believe this is a good idea. Teachers could also have a Life Alert around their necks. These precautions could save lives.
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12/20/2012 04:07 PM
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Thank you 25512310.
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teachers are childrens cops...
they dont need to teach anymore, tablets and software do that.
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idk im in teaching classes right now and we go teach third graders a few times in the semester and then watch the actual teacher teach.... well they use programs like ur talking about to teach math and the kids dont pay attention at all
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my god. this is exactly what i am talking about. you are obviously not an english teacher.
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12/20/2012 04:27 PM
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Maguyver,
What do you think about using a private security firm to respond to an alert if police are busy responding to another incident? Use them both. I'm sure taxpayers would consider this option especially for elementary schools where the teachers and children are vulnerable.
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12/20/2012 05:00 PM
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bump
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Maguyver,
What do you think about using a private security firm to respond
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why don't we leave that alone for a while and just
ban all semi-automatic firearms first. 'kay.
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12/20/2012 05:05 PM
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FWIW. I'm employed by the local School dist, one of the largest in the USA, about 70,000 students and....

while being in favor of Conceal Carry (prefer open carry,I wish)...I'm not in favor of this idea.

I'm in maintenance and NOT real fond of being shot at by "Miss Marple" because she did not recognize me and thought I was "there to Harm the Students"
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Ever heard of a training program?
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teachers are childrens cops...
they dont need to teach anymore, tablets and software do that.
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idk im in teaching classes right now and we go teach third graders a few times in the semester and then watch the actual teacher teach.... well they use programs like ur talking about to teach math and the kids dont pay attention at all
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my god. this is exactly what i am talking about. you are obviously not an english teacher.
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math and thank you for going off of your arguement to insult my english ^^
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12/20/2012 05:09 PM
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This is a great idea.

Teachers should be able to protect the kids.
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The teachers in Israel carry guns with no big problems, right?
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12/20/2012 05:14 PM
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This is a great idea.

Teachers should be able to protect the kids.
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The teachers in Israel carry guns with no big problems, right?
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yes. Israel is a fine example of a nation under siege.

Israeli's airport security was the model for all of
our airport security measure (and more).
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12/20/2012 05:28 PM
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FWIW. I'm employed by the local School dist, one of the largest in the USA, about 70,000 students and....

while being in favor of Conceal Carry (prefer open carry,I wish)...I'm not in favor of this idea.

I'm in maintenance and NOT real fond of being shot at by "Miss Marple" because she did not recognize me and thought I was "there to Harm the Students"
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Ever heard of a training program?
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Would you like to work in a environment where the chance of mistaken identity means you get shot?

I've got 117 schools that I work at and it may be 3 months between visits...when I come down from a roof inspection bumping into someone that knows me is kinda rare?

Let me say again...I'm PRO GUN!!...I just do not think this is the best solution to this problem.
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12/20/2012 06:06 PM
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HOW ARE YOU DENSE PEOPLE OK WITH THIS?!

What are they going to do next? Lay bricks over where the windows used to be? Have a TSA checkpoint before you enter the school? Barbed wire fences around the school?
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I'm going to write my State reps and county sheriff in TN and tell them I support this legislation.

If you live in one of these states, please do the same.
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I would recommend you go through the proposed legislation with a fine toothed comb and fully understand the law purposed, on each little jot and tittle, every word, every phrase, every clause, every sentence... and work to understand the desired consequences and consider the possible unintended consequences before you do such equally knee-jerk thing as approve of the passage of a law just because is 'seems' its going to do the desired job and 'others' are in favor of it -- usually these will have taken even less care to read and understand it then even perhaps you.

Law, that is to say, Legislation is not for the weak minded, its is very difficult to draw up legislation as a purposeful.

Consider also that you yourself are only one vote among thousands or tens of thousand or even millions of others your your same State Legislative District.
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Great point!

Thank you for this advice - will do!

cheers
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12/20/2012 06:11 PM
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HOW ARE YOU DENSE PEOPLE OK WITH THIS?!

What are they going to do next? Lay bricks over where the windows used to be? Have a TSA checkpoint before you enter the school? Barbed wire fences around the school?
 Quoting: jadksn 30407898


Are you reading the same thread as the rest of us? You do know that criminals already disregard the law, right?

Anyway, who in their right mind would want the TSA doing school checkpoints? My God man.

We're talking about having a SAFE school environment for our children.

Arm the teachers and staff. Keep our kids safe.
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A poster mentioned using a taser. I believe this is a good idea. Teachers could also have a Life Alert around their necks. These precautions could save lives.
 Quoting: LOM


Actually, that's not a bad idea either I don't think.

Maybe there could be tiers of protection?

Some teachers/staff aren't comfortable with firearms, aren't willing to go through the training and certification for them, etc. However, they'd be willing to carry tazers?

Another group IS willing to become school-certified firearm carriers. Let them carry.

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