FL, MN, OK, OR, SD, TN are drafting GUN legislation to allow teachers to carry in schools

"People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both."

B Franklin (1775)- still true

Ban all advertising that states, "7 out of 8 DOCTORS recommend, Camels.. er, Paxil, er, Zoloft, Ambien...."

If they can Ban Cigarette ads on TV ... "for the good of the nation" they can also ban Drug ads on TV.

Idiot, God never left, you did.

Man isn't that the truth....grew up and my best friends dad had a very cool rifle collection....not assault weapon types but hunting rifles from around the world....the tax is so high here per weapon it forced him to sell off most of his possessions!!!
Was a damn shame too!!!

Yes, THIS is HOW to DEAL WITH BULLIES, EVERYWHERE.
Bullies want you to leave your guns at home, Kay?
THINK!!
NO MORE BULLIES, ANYWHERE!
The psychopaths FROM THE TOP DOWN, are VERY ascared of lead.
Keep it close. got kids? I ask this often, because it seems that you just got them, and don't know HOW to CARE for them yet, or something .. . let alone YOURSELVES..

well couldnt a fucked up teacher do the same thing as lanza and shoot his/her students?

all semi-autos will be banned. live with it.

(and buy yerself a sling-shot)

Just knowing teachers have guns would prevent psychos bringing guns into schools

I hope AR does too

Any teacher that screwed up will do it anyway.

Wow, that's terrifying.

I can't believe some of you think this is a good thing. I seriously hope some of these kids learn how to defend themselves.

Why not try a Life Alert-
Why not try having teachers, etc. wear a life alert alarm. You could possibly add a camera? They could wear it around their necks, and tap it a couple of times to set off the alarm. What do you think?
I posted this previously, but it was quickly buried.

It seems so commonly said, 'I would lay down my life... ".. but these same people refuse to 'lay down their heart..."... Easier to die than it is is to live with a broken heart because you had no choice but to kill someone to defend others.

Look at your flag, it is the War Flag of the USA. Clue.

"Security" always build Box Canyons, for the herd to corral for easy killing.

... You noobs talking about the kids getting the teachers gun .. common now obviously you have never heard of Biometrics.. Yeah maybe the tech is still a bit premature and might have flaws but if this was going to be pushed then this tech can surely be improved upon.. PROBLEM SOLVED! In Fact i think Bio- Metrics should be required for all guns this will solve the problem of someone stealing someone else's gun and using it.

My great grand mother and father and all of their 13 children, all had (at least from the time they were five years old) 1 shotgun, 1 rifle, and 1 pistol. They were all sharp shots. None of them killed any other person, none of them were killed.

Keep the guns and the children and teach your children well.

I would recommend you go through the proposed legislation with a fine toothed comb and fully understand the law purposed, on each little jot and tittle, every word, every phrase, every clause, every sentence... and work to understand the desired consequences and consider the possible unintended consequences before you do such equally knee-jerk thing as approve of the passage of a law just because is 'seems' its going to do the desired job and 'others' are in favor of it -- usually these will have taken even less care to read and understand it then even perhaps you.

Law, that is to say, Legislation is not for the weak minded, its is very difficult to draw up legislation as a purposeful.

Consider also that you yourself are only one vote among thousands or tens of thousand or even millions of others your your same State Legislative District.

So true.

This is also a reason so many of L.E.O. are now tazering people to death. Or putting tens of bullets in some 'perp'.

the only defense against a Gun is a GUN.. Even if they banned all weapons in the US it should still be mandatory guns in schools to protect against the crazy criminal.. Right now they have them banned in the only place they should be mandatory,, schools,,, protecting the children.. duh.. Its mandatory,, any incident is over in minutes far before any cop shows up,, use your common sence people,, Hire retired cop to sit at a dest up front or anything..

Well, unfortunately many other family's will not be able to tell such a story. Weapons are lethal and not for everyone.
This situation development is disastrous and destructive.
Help yourself and God will help you also.

are they trying to turn everything upside down and into the most bizzare life since "wild west" kind of life vanished?

or... let teachers to shoot kids instead to teach them

You have no awareness of Human Nature, because your soul is very very sick.

I can't believe the support for this insanity.

It's no better than banning Guns as the Obama administration seeks to do. This is just preparing kids for prison. This is almost fascism..

Jesus H. Christ - what does it take to get an education these days?

Learning is best achieved by being in a safe, relaxed environment.

Our children will continue to be dumbed down - mainly out of FEAR of being shot - by somebody - in public education institutions. Or on the streets. Or in the home. Wherever. Who the hell can learn ANYTHING in such an environment?

I never thought it would get THIS bad. But then, TPTB are nasty, evil scum and are having their way with us. Shocking, but not unexpected.

Time to teach the children our collective new 'reality' will require courses in firearms and situational awareness - if any of us expect to survive.

It's now a Mad Max world. Never thought I'd see the day but here it is. Lock 'n load.

Arming teachers while not inherently a bad idea has LOTS of problems.

Will the guns be locked up but available to the teacher?

Will they be openly carried?

Will the teacher REALLY be trained to be accurate when firing under pressure (MOST police, who have continual recurrent training, TOTALLY MISS when engaged in a gun battle, even when only 15 feet away - seems being shot BACK at detroys one's concentration and aim)

What will schools do if an ARMED TEACHER goes off the deep end and shoots someone who is unarmed, but who they claim they "thought" was armed?

What will schools do if an ARMED TEACHER shoots students, particularly unruly students who are in a major league fight? (in my older son's middle school the fights sometimes got so bad not even ALL the male teachers on staff working in unison could break them up and they had to await the police to show up and start pepper spraying and tasering people in order to end the fight)

LOTS of potential problems and potentially MORE shooting in schools than caused by outsiders coming in if weapons are available and NOT under the control of the Principal or Office.

Our State Attorney General yesterday said it was OK under out laws IF the local school board set out a policy AND the guns were KEPT LOCKED UP but quickly available to TRAINED teachers or staff, people who have been through the full Peace Officer Training/Certification Program. (which is a LOT more involved than just a CCW Permit)

the education system in america began crumbling in the 1970s,
and here we are today.

we have folks graduating from college who can't read or
do arithmetic, because the universities need the revenue.

Fascism on one hand, Communism on the other. Remember both are controlled opposite against the Middle -- you and me.

... the more the schools come to resemble prisons, yes.

Smaller school, smaller class sizes in those smaller schools. Undo many of the problems.

it's too late. the situation is hopeless.