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REMEMBer the two women who were cavity searched on the side of the road...??

 
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REMEMBer the two women who were cavity searched on the side of the road...??
Well, there were alot of AC's who were saying NOTHING would happen and I am from Texas and I told them that we would HANDLE it down here and those cops WOULD pay.

One of the AC's kept saying that since they were still on duty that it proved that nothing would be done about it

Well, read it and see...

[link to dfw.cbslocal.com]
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so, she was put on paid vacation.

what about the asshole man, who made up the marijuana smell, then contributed it to cigarette smoke. He doesn't get a paid vacation to?
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Irving cops are horrible. I hope she gets fired, but she won't. They stick up for each other.
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Re: REMEMBer the two women who were cavity searched on the side of the road...??
Do you people not understand PROCEDURE?

Yes, she will be put on paid suspension PENDING the investigation. THEN when found guilty (and she will because of the video..it's a slam dunk for the women's attorney)she will be required to pay back all that money she was paid during the suspension and she will be fired.

Then when the women persue a criminal case, she will be taken to trial and found guilty again and face jail time.

THen a civil suit for the money will come.

God, give it time to play out....

I have a daughter who is LO and she told me how it will go down...
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"Policy" my ass....everytime I see one of these cases, the dept. head always bellow that the cop "did'nt violate policy"...Well...their "policy" is: that cops can kill, maim, kidnap and torture....when are people going to wake up to this fact and hold them accountable, criminally and civilly, in our courts of law...?
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Juries are always sidetracked and lead down the "policy" rabbit trail...the question is not whether the actions of the cops violated "policy"; but rather, whether it violated THE LAW !
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12/20/2012 11:03 AM
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Re: REMEMBer the two women who were cavity searched on the side of the road...??
With pay


And not under ARREST. I have no faith the system will prosecute one of their own.

According to our occupiers we are in a war situation, in war sometimes your troops kill civivlians. Thats only collateral damage. The police are the military in AMerica now

This women cop and her cohort, wont be convicted of anything. They get a slap on the wrist and thats all. YOU KNOW this has happened before at other stops in Texas. If they convict her they would have to change policy and admit they are wrong. That might even open up several other lawsuits against them.

They wont do that.... EVER
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Juries are loath to hold law enforcement accountable for these transgressions because they believe that the damages are paid out of the public cofers; it's not. "Justice" for most people is just a word....
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Tazers, hog-tieing prisoners, placing inmates in "stress positions, and putting "depressed" inmates in straight jackets "for their protection"....my god....welcome to NAZI Amerika.....
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Tazers, hog-tieing prisoners, placing inmates in "stress positions, and putting "depressed" inmates in straight jackets "for their protection"....my god....welcome to NAZI Amerika.....
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AND ALL prior to conviction ! So, where is my so-called "Presumption of Innocence"?
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Re: REMEMBer the two women who were cavity searched on the side of the road...??
I'll say it AGAIN...

Do you people not understand PROCEDURE?

Yes, she will be put on paid suspension PENDING the investigation. THEN when found guilty (and she will because of the video..it's a slam dunk for the women's attorney)she will be required to pay back all that money she was paid during the suspension and she will be fired.

Then when the women persue a criminal case, she will be taken to trial and found guilty again and face jail time.

THen a civil suit for the money will come.

God, give it time to play out....

I have a daughter who is LO and she told me how it will go down
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Even VETERINARIANS change their gloves between exams! cow
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yeah whatever , bet she gets fired from the donut munchers and hired by the TSA on the same day
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Re: REMEMBer the two women who were cavity searched on the side of the road...??
I'll say it AGAIN...

Do you people not understand PROCEDURE?

Yes, she will be put on paid suspension PENDING the investigation. THEN when found guilty (and she will because of the video..it's a slam dunk for the women's attorney)she will be required to pay back all that money she was paid during the suspension and she will be fired.

Then when the women persue a criminal case, she will be taken to trial and found guilty again and face jail time.

THen a civil suit for the money will come.

God, give it time to play out....

I have a daughter who is LO and she told me how it will go down
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I am betting against you.


Besides the rape is on camera, the cop and her cohort should already be under arrest, not leave without pay.

The girls may get a little money out of the state for this. But the cops...... Nope, they will get nothing as usual.
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12/20/2012 11:16 AM
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Re: REMEMBer the two women who were cavity searched on the side of the road...??
It sucks cops can do this without probable cause other than smelling (or so they claim,,no way to prove or disprove it) long story short, if youre gonna smoke dont illegally throw your butts out the window and risk corrupt cops seeing it and putting yourself in this situation.
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Re: REMEMBer the two women who were cavity searched on the side of the road...??
For those of you who are saying cops are never found guilty and never face jail time....

[link to denver.cbslocal.com]

[link to www.kwtx.com]

[link to jobs.aol.com]

[link to www.cnn.com]

and I could go on and on

Police ARE prosecuted and ARE found guilty and DO go to prison when they commit a crime.

It has to PLAY OUT

You people seem to want a charge, prosecution, verdict and penalty all in a couple of days.

Sheesh.
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Re: REMEMBer the two women who were cavity searched on the side of the road...??
I'll say it AGAIN...

Do you people not understand PROCEDURE?

Yes, she will be put on paid suspension PENDING the investigation. THEN when found guilty (and she will because of the video..it's a slam dunk for the women's attorney)she will be required to pay back all that money she was paid during the suspension and she will be fired.

Then when the women persue a criminal case, she will be taken to trial and found guilty again and face jail time.

THen a civil suit for the money will come.

God, give it time to play out....

I have a daughter who is LO and she told me how it will go down
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30378203


I am betting against you.


Besides the rape is on camera, the cop and her cohort should already be under arrest, not leave without pay.

The girls may get a little money out of the state for this. But the cops...... Nope, they will get nothing as usual.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028055


The women have NOT pressed criminal charges yet.

THey WILL...right now they are just sueing for violation of rights.

GIVE IT TIME.
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12/20/2012 11:26 AM
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Re: REMEMBer the two women who were cavity searched on the side of the road...??
For those of you who are saying cops are never found guilty and never face jail time....

[link to denver.cbslocal.com]

[link to www.kwtx.com]

[link to jobs.aol.com]

[link to www.cnn.com]

and I could go on and on

Police ARE prosecuted and ARE found guilty and DO go to prison when they commit a crime.

It has to PLAY OUT

You people seem to want a charge, prosecution, verdict and penalty all in a couple of days.

Sheesh.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30378203




Yes, that is exacly what needs to happen. Not paid leave and temporary suspension. It is on film, they should be in JAIL right now. Not after an investigation.

Had I done this, I would be in prison right now awaiting trial.

What you dont get is this is not a one time off event. Those gloves were in the car for this intended purpose, to cavity search. They even used a women cop, another procedural thing.

No, this is policy, not a one time event. It is STILL a rape.

The only reason the cop is suspended is because it made it to youtube. This was not a one time event were the perps were just trying to get off.

This is policy, this is part of the stop and frisk laws on the books taken to the next level. In other words, the cop did not break the law and was following orders.

Hence why this is an issue, one set of laws for the civilians and one set for the occupiers. Remember ... if they were civilians they would be in jail.
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12/20/2012 11:27 AM
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Re: REMEMBer the two women who were cavity searched on the side of the road...??
I'll say it AGAIN...

Do you people not understand PROCEDURE?

Yes, she will be put on paid suspension PENDING the investigation. THEN when found guilty (and she will because of the video..it's a slam dunk for the women's attorney)she will be required to pay back all that money she was paid during the suspension and she will be fired.

Then when the women persue a criminal case, she will be taken to trial and found guilty again and face jail time.

THen a civil suit for the money will come.

God, give it time to play out....

I have a daughter who is LO and she told me how it will go down
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30378203


I am betting against you.


Besides the rape is on camera, the cop and her cohort should already be under arrest, not leave without pay.

The girls may get a little money out of the state for this. But the cops...... Nope, they will get nothing as usual.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028055


The women have NOT pressed criminal charges yet.

THey WILL...right now they are just sueing for violation of rights.

GIVE IT TIME.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30378203


Alright OP


We will see
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12/20/2012 11:29 AM
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Who releases the footage from these dash-board cams...oh, that would be THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS!

They LOVE to intimidate us through FEAR! redface
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12/20/2012 11:31 AM
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For those of you who are saying cops are never found guilty and never face jail time....

[link to denver.cbslocal.com]

[link to www.kwtx.com]

[link to jobs.aol.com]

[link to www.cnn.com]

and I could go on and on

Police ARE prosecuted and ARE found guilty and DO go to prison when they commit a crime.

It has to PLAY OUT

You people seem to want a charge, prosecution, verdict and penalty all in a couple of days.

Sheesh.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30378203




Yes, that is exacly what needs to happen. Not paid leave and temporary suspension. It is on film, they should be in JAIL right now. Not after an investigation.

Had I done this, I would be in prison right now awaiting trial.

What you dont get is this is not a one time off event. Those gloves were in the car for this intended purpose, to cavity search. They even used a women cop, another procedural thing.

No, this is policy, not a one time event. It is STILL a rape.

The only reason the cop is suspended is because it made it to youtube. This was not a one time event were the perps were just trying to get off.

This is policy, this is part of the stop and frisk laws on the books taken to the next level. In other words, the cop did not break the law and was following orders.

Hence why this is an issue, one set of laws for the civilians and one set for the occupiers. Remember ... if they were civilians they would be in jail.
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and you don't think if the policy and procedures of this departmen VIOLATED these women's civil rights that there won't be hell to pay?

This is a civil rights lawyer's wet dream.

Let is play out. I predict that the woman will go to jail for armed assault, violating civil rights and putting these women at risk of fatal disease (aids).

The man who called her will face either unpaid suspension or termination.

THe department will be forced to change their policy and other various heads will roll...

Let is play out...
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Re: REMEMBer the two women who were cavity searched on the side of the road...??
"Policy" my ass....everytime I see one of these cases, the dept. head always bellow that the cop "did'nt violate policy"...Well...their "policy" is: that cops can kill, maim, kidnap and torture....when are people going to wake up to this fact and hold them accountable, criminally and civilly, in our courts of law...?
 Quoting: Elsabiades... 28025858


Because our courts of law are not their courts of law.

The courts are firmly in control of the statel. Not the people.

To prosecute these out of control cops, you would have to establish civilian courts independent of the state and federal courts.

And as soon as you try to form one, you will be arrested as a terrorist.

There is no law anymore, just law of force. If the people want justice they have to be willing to become " criminals" to adminster proper punishment.

That is a tough hill to climb for most scared and weak Americans.
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Reminds me of story years ago a guy and his wife the Anderson's were on a camping trip in their RV when authorities stopped them to search their vehicle looking for a two of FBI's most wanted. After they searched the RV they issued body cavity searches to Anderson's "long and deep. A total violation of privacy.
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Re: REMEMBer the two women who were cavity searched on the side of the road...??
Do you people not understand PROCEDURE?

Yes, she will be put on paid suspension PENDING the investigation. THEN when found guilty (and she will because of the video..it's a slam dunk for the women's attorney)she will be required to pay back all that money she was paid during the suspension and she will be fired.

Then when the women persue a criminal case, she will be taken to trial and found guilty again and face jail time.

THen a civil suit for the money will come.

God, give it time to play out....

I have a daughter who is LO and she told me how it will go down...
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Thank you for this update. I confess, I am one who told you I believed nothing would happen, and I was angry. Yes you are right, we must let it play out. As news appears, perhaps you would care to keep us updated.
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Re: REMEMBer the two women who were cavity searched on the side of the road...??
So how many innocent people have been framed, tased, pepper sprayed, strip searched, beaten up, and shot to death by cops since this happened?
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Re: REMEMBer the two women who were cavity searched on the side of the road...??
Do you people not understand PROCEDURE?

Yes, she will be put on paid suspension PENDING the investigation. THEN when found guilty (and she will because of the video..it's a slam dunk for the women's attorney)she will be required to pay back all that money she was paid during the suspension and she will be fired.

Then when the women persue a criminal case, she will be taken to trial and found guilty again and face jail time.

THen a civil suit for the money will come.

God, give it time to play out....

I have a daughter who is LO and she told me how it will go down...
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Thank you for this update. I confess, I am one who told you I believed nothing would happen, and I was angry. Yes you are right, we must let it play out. As news appears, perhaps you would care to keep us updated.
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WOuld be happy to keep you updated. You know how long it takes for these lawsuits to play out.

Hell, the cops from the Katrina debacle are just not getting their jail sentences.
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Just NOW getting their sentences...typo
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Re: REMEMBer the two women who were cavity searched on the side of the road...??
Do you people not understand PROCEDURE?

Yes, she will be put on paid suspension PENDING the investigation. THEN when found guilty (and she will because of the video..it's a slam dunk for the women's attorney)she will be required to pay back all that money she was paid during the suspension and she will be fired.

Then when the women persue a criminal case, she will be taken to trial and found guilty again and face jail time.

THen a civil suit for the money will come.

God, give it time to play out....

I have a daughter who is LO and she told me how it will go down...
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I understand procedure. I also understand the Irving PD. Twice as many cops per square mile as Dallas, and half the crime. Those weenies do whatever they want, in 6 months this will have disappeared and she will be back on the streets.
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Re: REMEMBer the two women who were cavity searched on the side of the road...??
I'll say it AGAIN...

Do you people not understand PROCEDURE?

Yes, she will be put on paid suspension PENDING the investigation. THEN when found guilty (and she will because of the video..it's a slam dunk for the women's attorney)she will be required to pay back all that money she was paid during the suspension and she will be fired.

Then when the women persue a criminal case, she will be taken to trial and found guilty again and face jail time.

THen a civil suit for the money will come.

God, give it time to play out....

I have a daughter who is LO and she told me how it will go down
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30378203


I am betting against you.


Besides the rape is on camera, the cop and her cohort should already be under arrest, not leave without pay.

The girls may get a little money out of the state for this. But the cops...... Nope, they will get nothing as usual.
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The women have NOT pressed criminal charges yet.

THey WILL...right now they are just sueing for violation of rights.

GIVE IT TIME.
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People don't press charges in the state of Texas, only the state can do that. If the DA hasn't charged these cops by now, he won't.
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Re: REMEMBer the two women who were cavity searched on the side of the road...??
OP, nothing will happen. This is paid vacation for the cop. They will loophole the cop out of it. The system is not on the side of the citizen and it is as far from the side of "what is right" as anything possibly can be..... wake up. This is a show... an act... something to appease the masses in light of it going public. Again, they will "investigate" and find it is well within the bounds of a cop to do this if "marijuana odor" was noticed...ha!how fucking vague, subjective, and completely unable to be verified can a "reasonable cause" to search be.... this is how the cop will be back on the streets....precedence set... methods and protocol IN PLACE for roadside cavity search's strictly on the word of a fucking cop.
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"Paid suspension PENDING the investigation," is the tactic pig departments use to buy themselves time to let the fury die down to the point everyone has forgotten and nobody cares anymore. Then the offending pigs are found not guilty of misconduct, and put back on duty.

The only fucking pig that ever gets fired is the pig none of the other pigs like, and were just looking for an excuse to shitcan his/her ass anyway.

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