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"LOOK-NOW"---3 Days of Darkness Approach! NASA Stereo Behind HI1: 12/21/2012 it All Goes Dark!

 
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and then nothing happened.

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3 Days of Darkness Approach! NASA Stereo Behind HI1

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Behind HI1 > 512x512 > 20121217 - 20121220 > Slideshow > Search
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Taking the date range back to 12/1/2012 yields no similar images to the dark ones produced since 12/17. However, there was a much smaller darkening event on 12/8/2012.
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Taking the range back to 1/1/2012 yields no similar dark images. However, it appears that the center of the galaxy is visible in late April through early May.
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No similar darkening is visible during this month exactly one year ago, dispelling the possibility that the darkening is a seasonal effect.

However, a large comet can be seen streaking away from the sun on STEREO Ahead/Behind HI1.
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Another characteristic of the dark images produced since December 17 is that the image resolution appears to be much lower than all previous images dating back to at least mid-December, 2011.
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I just uploaded a quick video of it ...


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Cool...I like the timestamp on that video...

1:11

hf
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We soon will be there. :)
"Our solar system is part of a huge disc shaped collection of stars and planets called the Milky Way.



We're located somewhere on the edge of the disc, slightly on top of the narrow disc. But very soon we'll be moving to the bottom of the disc. This change, from top to bottom, begins on December 21, 2012.

Yes, that's right. On the same day when our Sun is at it's solar maximum, something will happen that's never happened for thousands of eons of time - the ecliptic of our solar system will intersect with the Galactic plane, called the "Galactic Equator" of the Milky Way! [see star chart].

If you imagine our solar system as a bunch of peas on a plate, with a huge meatball in the center, imagine the Milky Way as a city-size pizza with the "Guiness World Book Record Meatball" in its center!

Prior to December 2012 we have been drifting on the top of the pizza, never really able to see the bottom. The plate and pizza are not parallel. They are moving at different angles. We've been drifting down, down, down... and on December 21st, 2012, we will be exactly level with the crust - forming an "x" at the Galactic Equator where galactic gravity is the strongest.



After 2012, if we are still here, we will be passing through the bottom zone, viewing the Milky Way pizza from the South.

Yes, there's even more!"
[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]
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The galactic plane and the galactic equator are completely different things to begin with. If that article can't even distinguish between those two simple things, then it obviously is full of shit.
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Isn't this quite normal in stereo?
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Isn't this quite normal in stereo?
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oh ya i forgot large black massesare the norm....iamwith
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Isn't this quite normal in stereo?
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since when is it normal?

please answer that question
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Evreyone in this thread thinks that soon as this happens...currency will be null and void right...or the earth will be ablaze...or something else pretty sinister.

Sounds like the poor just may rule the world.

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I just uploaded a quick video of it ...


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Cool...I like the timestamp on that video...

1:11

hf
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Awesome Thanks for the link!!!!!!
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More on Superwave Theory:

[link to www.etheric.com]

Questions and Answers on What Next Superwave May Be Like:

From: [link to www.etheric.com]

Questions and Answers Regarding What the Next Superwave Might be Like




After hearing the December 27th, 2005 Coast to Coast AM radio talk show, a number of listeners had questions in regard to what they should do to prepare for the next superwave. Paul LaViolette (P L) attempts to address some of those questions below.

From an email he received 12/29/05:

<< I was glad to be reminded of your work on Coast to Coast AM. I am not astronomical savvy but please correct me if I'm wrong. The high northern latitudes will receive less direct gamma radiation and at a certain latitude, none at all. So much for moving to Brazil... >>

P L: It is true that the Galactic center hangs low in the Northern sky. So, gamma rays from the Galactic center direction reaching northern hemisphere locations would be more attenuated since they would have a greater thickness of atmosphere to penetrate. Following the initial burst, the lower velocity cosmic ray electrons would arrive from all directions. So, which hemisphere one lived in would not matter except that regions closer to the poles where geomagnetic field screening of cosmic rays is normally lower would have less protection. If you have plans to move to Brazil, this would probably not be a reason to change your plans.

If the superwave were to arrive without warning, the first effect would be seismic and then this would be followed by the gamma ray burst and EMP effects. We may use the 2004 tsunami as an indicator in this respect, although a core explosion of the sort we are talking about would be on a much bigger scale. If a similar sequence were to occur, then the occurrence of worldwide seismic events would give us probably a day or two warning that a gamma ray burst was imminent. Unfortunately, many would have already perished if a gravity wave pulse were to trigger widespread seismic disturbances without any warning.

<< Can you suggest how many feet of earth one would need to have between oneself and the line of sight with the galactic core to survive the gamma ray burst? >>

P L: Unfortunately we have little data on what a superwave would be like since we have not experienced any in modern times. To infer for the future we must study ice core records telling us what happened in the past. At present, and throughout most of the interglacial period superwave cosmic ray bombardment has been absent,and during this period the beryllium-10 is produced in the Earth's atmosphere mainly by cosmic ray protons of intergalactic origin which make up 99% of the cosmic ray background striking the Earth. During the time when a superwave is passing our solar system, this baseline beryllium-10 production rate is boosted by the additional intense flux of Galactic cosmic ray electrons coming from the Galactic center that compose the incoming superwave. Although the superwave initially consists of both cosmic ray protons and electrons when it departs from the Galactic center, on its journey through the galaxy the slower moving (low Lorentz factor) proton component lags behind, disperses and gets captured by the Galaxy's interstellar magnetic field leaving only the higher speed (high Lorentz factor) cosmic ray electron component to arrive as a coherent superwave volley. However, compared to cosmic ray protons, cosmic ray electrons are less efficient at producing beryllium-10. But if the superwave is sufficiently intense (contains sufficient intensities of incoming cosmic ray electrons), it will be able to raise atmospheric beryllium-10 production rate above the interglacial baseline rate. Assuming that the beryllium-10 concentration spikes found in the ice age portion of the ice record indicate Earth's past exposure to superwave electrons, we may gauge the intensity of the superwave by the height of these peaks. We then conclude that the superwave cosmic rays had an effect similar to that produced by a 2 to 4 fold increase in the cosmic ray proton background component. The lower figure of this range is based on Be-10 measurements made on the Vostok, Antarctica ice core and the higher end of the range is based on Be-10 measurements made on the Camp Century, Greenland ice core. There have not been that many Be-10 measurements made of the ice age portion of the Be-10 record so these data points are relatively spaced out in time with the order of centuries, or in some cases millennia between successive points. So it is possible that researchers may have missed some events that produce Be-10 concentration spikes higher than this which are present in the ice record.

Anyway, the range of what we are talking about from the cosmic ray component is more an issue of raising the genetic mutation rate from environmental exposure as opposed to being a lethal event. A greater hazard probably comes in normal life from receiving chest X-rays or transcontinental air flights during solar storms. So, I don't think it is necessary to think in terms of how many feet of earth one might need to shelter oneself. This type of lethal Galactic explosion scenario was explored in Fred and Geoffrey Hoyle's science fiction book entitled Inferno. Also, more recently, some astronomers have made alarming statements that if the gamma ray pulse they detected coming from a distant galaxy had occurred within our own galaxy so many thousand light years away it would have sterilized all life on the side facing the explosion. But I don't believe these scenarios are realistic for the types of events that have been coming from our own Galactic core and which the Earth has been experiencing during the past several million years. If such events had occurred in the past 50,000 years, carbon-14 levels would have been way off scale. We don't see this.

A majority of the superwave cosmic rays would be in the form of cosmic ray electrons. Unlike cosmic ray protons, these lighter particles are easily scattered by the Earth's atmosphere and would generate a low energy electron cascade. This lower energy shower would most likely be stopped by a typical house roof. And so simply staying indoors would be the best strategy to avoiding exposure to this.

In my dissertation, which is available in updated form as a CD ROM (see the etheric.com website), I modeled the fairly large superwave event that passed by at the end of the last ice age. There, I concluded that the superwave would have delivered a radiation dose of around 4 Roentgen per year, which is comparable to the maximum allowable occupational dose rate for human beings and five times the maximum allowable dose rate for pregnant women. This kind of exposure would result in a doubling of the mutation rate over the course of one's lifetime.

The cosmic ray bombardment would eventually destroy the Earth's ozone layer and this would generate a secondary hazard of exposure to solar UV radiation. This might be more of a hazard than the superwave's direct effect on genetic mutation.

<< Can you tell me how long the gamma ray burst lasts? Hours? Days? Weeks? >>

P L: Taking the December 2004 gamma ray burst as an example, the brightest one to occur in the past several decades, this one declined from its maximum intensity over a five minute period. This did not originate from a Galactic core. So it is difficult to extrapolate to a Galactic center outburst. However, I am guessing that a core gamma ray outburst would not persist for more than 10 minutes before fading out. The entire superwave cosmic ray event, however, would persist for anywhere from a hundred to several thousand years.

<< Does the thickness of the 'black horizon' in the archaeologic strata give a suggestion [regarding the length of the gamma ray burst]? I suppose worldwide earthquakes mean-- go to your nearest cave. >>


P L: The black horizon I spoke about on the Coast to Coast show (the Usselo Horizon) is described in the 2005 edition of Earth Under Fire. The conflagration that produced this horizon (~12,900 years ago) was not produced by a Galactic core gamma ray burst, but rather most likely was due to a giant coronal mass ejection from the Sun, one so powerful that it overpowered the Earth's magnetic field and contacted the Earth's surface. It is this solar event that I have suggested was responsible for the extinction of the Pleistocene megafauna and for the conflagration/flood stories found in ancient myth. More information may be found in the paper: "Evidence for a Solar Cause of the Pleistocene Mass Extinction." Legends of our ancestors having taken refuge in caves I believe were referring to this coronal mass ejection event, and not to a surprise gamma ray burst. There were other solar-- global warming/glacial flooding events before and after the 12,887 years b2k (before 2000) solar proton event (SPE) which may also have inspired catastrophe legends, but they were not as major as this one. This terminal extinction event occurred several thousand years after the superwave had already been in progress. Since the Sun currently is no where near the level of aggravation that preceded this mass extinction event, we would not presently be threatened by any similar situation. Such super SPE's become a concern only after the superwave has pushed cosmic dust into the solar system and caused the Sun's surface to become progressively more and more active, perhaps over a time scale of centuries to millennia.

<< If one stayed indoors during daylight, then the ozone would not be directly problematic. If one stayed under the earth (10 feet?) when the core was in the sky then that would be survivable. There should a few hours in a 24 hour period that being out of doors would be safe for scavenging and hunting. >>

P L: Judging from the Earth's past, I very much doubt that the next Galactic core gamma ray burst will produce a radiation hazard approaching that of the 12,887 years b2k solar proton event. I am guessing that ice age people would have had ample warning of that super SPE since solar activity would have been progressively building up.

The solar hazard that would be more of a threat during the initial stage of the superwave's arrival would be the gradual destruction of the Earth's ozone layer and the consequent high levels of UV radiation that would penetrate. As you know this is already a problem in some southern parts of Australia and Chile. Indeed, staying out of the Sun during such a phase would be advisable.

From an email he received 12/28/05:

<< I listened to part of Tuesday night's Coast to Coast with no name and heard just enough to frighten me into possibly building an underground shelter. Unfortunately, we had a bomb shelter (late '50's) but we tore it down a year ago, thinking it was in pretty bad shape to withstand a nuclear bomb. I had no idea at the time there were other things to fear that the shelter may have helped us with. Now I am considering either excavating the old shelter or building a new one. Am I being overly pessimistic or just cautious? >>

P L: In regard to building a new bomb shelter, I would say there is no need to at present. In terms of needing shelter from intense nuclear radiation, a terrorist attack might currently pose more of a threat. On the Coast to Coast show when I said that the superwave would carry an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) similar to a high-altitude nuclear explosion, I did not mean to imply that the superwave would deliver ionizing radiation effects similar to a nearby nuclear explosion, e.g., such as one capable of delivering a lethal dose of radiation. A high-altitude nuclear explosion such as the Starfish explosion, which was conducted over the Pacific Ocean at an altitude of about 450 kilometers would not have produced much ground radiation since its high-energy particles became trapped in the Earth's magnetic field. But its EMP was able to black out the Hawaiian Islands 1500 kilometers away. I discuss this in my dissertation CD ROM. My reference to the high-altitude nuclear explosion was in regard to the EMP effects which might be associated with the prompt arrival of a superwave and which could knock out satellites, overload the power distribution network, and zap semiconductor electronic devices.

As for a superwave, the Earth's atmosphere would impede much of the electron cosmic ray radiation arriving from a superwave. There would also be a proton component associated with the initial arrival of the superwave and its associated gamma ray burst. This would be more of a concern from a radiation hazard standpoint since it would easily penetrate through the atmosphere. But as I have pointed out above, I don't see the levels producing a significant threat. And one would be able to be protected from low energy electron showers simply by staying indoors.

However, some must indeed find it unsettling to hear rumors of secret projects being conducted by the "shadow government" to dig underground tunnels and dwellings presumably to house some fraction of the population in the event of a future disaster. Most of these are stories that circulate on the internet and are difficult to corroborate without more background information. But, let us suppose for the moment that these stories are true. Have these underground bunkers been constructed for a possible nuclear attack, or for some natural disaster arriving from space? If the latter is the case, does this shadow government know something that we don't know. Do they have some inside information obtained through possible contact with ET's that some catastrophic event is imminent and that such underground dwellings will be necessary for future survival? Relative to the present discussion about superwaves, the question arises is a superwave about to arrive and will it be of such high initial intensity that people should protect themselves in underground shelters. My answer as a scientist would be to look at what we do know, which is to look at the past record and judging on that basis I would say that the chance of life threatening superwave radiation hazard arriving unexpectedly is rather remote. But, I could be wrong. Unfortunately, I don't see many of my scientist colleagues looking into this matter.


From an email he received 12/26/05 before the interview:

<< Would you please prepare number (range of years) that represents the statistically most significant window for the next galactic center energy burst, based upon observed historical data. >>

P L: A conservative guess would be that there is a 90% chance that a superwave will arrive in the next four centuries. I cannot rule out the possibility that one might arrive around the time of the Mayan calendar end date of 2012, as some proclaim. And others have felt that a catastrophic event might occur even sooner. It is just that investigations of the Galactic center mass (Sagittarius A*) show that the core continues in its present quiescent state. Whether this present tranquil state will without warning come to a sudden end, I cannot say. All we can do at present is talk of future probabilities by looking at what has happened in the past. A study of the past shows that we are overdue for a small event, one similar to the bursts that resulted in the 14 gas expulsions which issued from the Galactic center over the past 5300 years. It has been 700 years since the last event and on only two occasions was there a time lapse between events longer than this. Whether the next event will be a small superwave event (Magnitude 1 event) or a much larger climatically significant event (Magnitude 3 or 4 event) is difficult to say.

In referring to past events, it helps to use a magnitude scale as is used in describing the strengths of earthquakes and tornadoes. However, since we do not have real time data, such a scale is understandably very qualitative. We might rank the severity of Galactic superwaves as given below.

Galactic Superwave Event Ranking

Magnitude 1: A superwave cosmic ray burst that is not detectable above cosmic background levels but which carries a gamma ray burst and gravity wave pulse at its forefront. This would likely produce seismic and EMP effects much stronger than the December 2004 earthquake and gamma ray burst.

Magnitude 2: A short duration superwave cosmic ray burst that produces a moderate increase above cosmic background levels and a minor climatic disturbance. This would be similar to the events that occurred around 5300 years ago which produced approximately a 50% increase in the cosmic ray background over a period of about one to two hundred years. This resulted in some temporary climatic change such as blizzards, but was not severe enough to perturb climate from its present interglacial phase.

Magnitude 3: A long duration superwave cosmic ray burst that produces a major increase in the cosmic ray background level, doubling the background level, lasting several hundred to a thousand years, and injecting interstellar dust in sufficient quantities to destabilize climate initiating a period of glacial growth. Examples would be the events that initiated glacial stage 5-d about 110,000 years ago or stage 4 about 70,000 years ago.

Magnitude 4: A much longer duration superwave cosmic ray burst capable of increasing the cosmic ray levels 2 to 4 fold above the background level and lasting several thousand years, with dust injection into the solar system maintained long enough to activate the Sun into a state of excessive flare activity. Such an event would induce climatic effects more extreme than a Magnitude 3 superwave, sufficient to initiate a global warming period that would terminate an ice age or induce an interstadial. Examples would be the superwave events that ended the Illinoisan glaciation (stage 6) about 130,000 - 140,000 years ago or ended the Wisconsin ice age about 16,000 - 10,000 years ago, the more recent precipitating the Pleistocene extinction. Another event around 34,000 - 37,000 years ago occurred around the time of the demise of Neanderthal Man.

Paul LaViolette



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Behind HI1 > 512x512 > 20121217 - 20121220 > Slideshow > Search
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It appears that planet Earth will experience total darkness just see this!!


[link to www.ipma.pt]
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what kind of tard says that based off a fake picture?
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3 Days of Darkness Approach! NASA Stereo Behind HI1

[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

Behind HI1 > 512x512 > 20121217 - 20121220 > Slideshow > Search
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It appears that planet Earth will experience total darkness just see this!!


[link to www.ipma.pt]
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what kind of tard says that based off a fake picture?
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Go to [link to www.ipma.pt] and see satellite "combinado" area "Globo" ITS NOT FAKE!!!
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Taking the date range back to 12/1/2012 yields no similar images to the dark ones produced since 12/17. However, there was a much smaller darkening event on 12/8/2012.
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Taking the range back to 1/1/2012 yields no similar dark images. However, it appears that the center of the galaxy is visible in late April through early May.
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No similar darkening is visible during this month exactly one year ago, dispelling the possibility that the darkening is a seasonal effect.

However, a large comet can be seen streaking away from the sun on STEREO Ahead/Behind HI1.
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Another characteristic of the dark images produced since December 17 is that the image resolution appears to be much lower than all previous images dating back to at least mid-December, 2011.
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Three possible explanations:

1. An imaging sensor issue has degraded sensor sensitivity since December 17 requiring pixel-binning to enhance image brightness. This would explain the image darkening effects as well as the degraded image resolution.

2. An opaque cloud is emanating from the sun. This cloud is associated with increased radiation levels causing STEREO Behind to send back images at lower resolutions in order to overcome elevated background noise.

3. Due to lack of resources, STEREO behind has been switched to conservative settings over the holidays, resulting in degraded image quality.
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I just uploaded a quick video of it ...


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Cool...I like the timestamp on that video...

1:11

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Oh thank you. I'm sure I was the only one who looked.

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What about it? Here's the latest image (at its native resolution):
behind122012
Pardon the glare from the sun on the left, I haven't done anything to subtract it from the raw image. That's precisely what they did to the jpg version of the beacon image you see on the website (and not that well imho), but there's not literally a dark region there. They process those versions quite heavily, I strongly recommend downloading the raw FITS images from the FTP before you draw conclusions like "3 days of darkness approach."
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I just uploaded a quick video of it ...


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If you people REALLY believed this was going to happen you would not be wasting time on this board.
You would be taking your necessary belongings to your bunker or hideout.

Please explain why you are wasting time talking about it?
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try ahead COR2..wow
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What about it? Here's the latest image (at its native resolution):
:behind122012:
Pardon the glare from the sun on the left, I haven't done anything to subtract it from the raw image. That's precisely what they did to the jpg version of the beacon image you see on the website (and not that well imho), but there's not literally a dark region there. They process those versions quite heavily, I strongly recommend downloading the raw FITS images from the FTP before you draw conclusions like "3 days of darkness approach."
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sooo.....this mean exactly what astro?
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I've always said it just seems 'dark' to us, it's probably a higher vibration of light than we can detect. Shine a remote control that uses infrared at an old camcorder(low quality or black and white) and see what it does(when you press the button)
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What about it? Here's the latest image (at its native resolution):
behind122012
Pardon the glare from the sun on the left, I haven't done anything to subtract it from the raw image. That's precisely what they did to the jpg version of the beacon image you see on the website (and not that well imho), but there's not literally a dark region there. They process those versions quite heavily, I strongly recommend downloading the raw FITS images from the FTP before you draw conclusions like "3 days of darkness approach."
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What about it? Here's the latest image (at its native resolution):
:behind122012:
Pardon the glare from the sun on the left, I haven't done anything to subtract it from the raw image. That's precisely what they did to the jpg version of the beacon image you see on the website (and not that well imho), but there's not literally a dark region there. They process those versions quite heavily, I strongly recommend downloading the raw FITS images from the FTP before you draw conclusions like "3 days of darkness approach."
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Surely the image conversion process is automated with fixed parameters to ensure consistent image quality. However, the darkened images are all at much lower resolution, suggesting some sort of change to either the raw image or to the conversion process. Can you explain this?

Can you compare the latest raw image from today to earlier pre-Dec 17 images to see if there are any qualitative differences to account for the darkening effects shown in the recent STEREO images?
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You get the same exact kind of darkening if you just take the date range back to last year.

LOL FAIL!
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try ahead COR2..wow
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Re: "LOOK-NOW"---3 Days of Darkness Approach! NASA Stereo Behind HI1: 12/21/2012 it All Goes Dark!
I tried to show this to others, and through the ridicule a very good question came up...

Presuming that there is 'darkness' (black hole, dark matter, etc.) approaching from the direction of the sun, how can you calculate when it will arrive / how fast it's traveling?

i.e. does 'dark' travel at (or above) the speed of light??
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Re: "LOOK-NOW"---3 Days of Darkness Approach! NASA Stereo Behind HI1: 12/21/2012 it All Goes Dark!
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 Quoting: biscuits and gravy


What about it? Here's the latest image (at its native resolution):
behind122012
Pardon the glare from the sun on the left, I haven't done anything to subtract it from the raw image. That's precisely what they did to the jpg version of the beacon image you see on the website (and not that well imho), but there's not literally a dark region there. They process those versions quite heavily, I strongly recommend downloading the raw FITS images from the FTP before you draw conclusions like "3 days of darkness approach."
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


sooo.....this mean exactly what astro?
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Processing artifact from the background subtraction they're using. They usually average a previous day's images together to create a calibration image which is subtracted from the latest image so that they can elminate the glare from the sun and see the tenuous heliosphere. They only update the calibration image every so often, and as time passes it may become less and less appropriate compared to the actual glare that's present and how the CCD is responding to the light. In other words, the calibration image is currently subtracting too much.

There isn't really a "dark" region there, it's actually quite bright and if you don't compensate for it and try to just adjust the levels of the raw unprocessed beacon image to match the JPGs present online you end up blowing out the glare which is what you see with the large white region on the left side of the image:
behind122012
It seems like the calibration image they're using for the non-BEACON images is much better right now (high quality low compression versions of the same images), which is why if you go back a few days the problem vanishes instantly. Once you step forward one image into the BEACON images the problem with the calibration frame appears.

In a few days when you check back at the stereo site, the beacon JPGs will be replaced with full resolution JPGs from the non-BEACON versions, at which time the "black region" will probably either be greatly reduced or gone altogether. Standard non-BEACON images have to be processed from scratch so just because there's a problem with the BEACON processed version does not always mean there will be a problem with the full res version a few days later.
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What about it? Here's the latest image (at its native resolution):
behind122012
Pardon the glare from the sun on the left, I haven't done anything to subtract it from the raw image. That's precisely what they did to the jpg version of the beacon image you see on the website (and not that well imho), but there's not literally a dark region there. They process those versions quite heavily, I strongly recommend downloading the raw FITS images from the FTP before you draw conclusions like "3 days of darkness approach."
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lol...astronut always ruins it for the doomtards...

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Re: "LOOK-NOW"---3 Days of Darkness Approach! NASA Stereo Behind HI1: 12/21/2012 it All Goes Dark!
People always claim shit is hiding in Stereo, yet nothing ever appears. Nothing is there, they are artifacts from the imagining systems, nothing more.

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