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"LOOK-NOW"---3 Days of Darkness Approach! NASA Stereo Behind HI1: 12/21/2012 it All Goes Dark!

 
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Thanks for the info nut


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No fun at all. LOL

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That was a odd dark area that showed up
You need to figure it out !
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Thanks for the info nut


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No fun at all. LOL

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That was a odd dark area that showed up
You need to figure it out !
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Actually you folks should realize the government and amateur astronomers (majority) will most assuredly not tell you shit of any impending disaster until the fucking thing is practically on top of you and impossible to deny. Even those amateur scientists who lock on to an impending disaster will be coerced and bullied into keeping shit on a lock until further notice.

All this will be done to avoid the unstoppable raping, pillaging and apeshit slaughter that the world will inflict on itself the moment a major impending event/disaster is incoming. You people who are stupid enough to believe that you will know in advance of some major disaster are in for a fucking rude surprise. Sure maybe you are civilized and your neighbor is civilized..but your not taking the rest of the population and pshyco athiest rapist and cut throats who are waiting for that news to come so they can hit your home and tear you to bits for a can of campbells soup you have in your cupboard...

So tell me...who the fuck in their right mind would actually BE ALLOWED to spread the truth of something like a major event...thats right..NO ONE...the government will make sure of that very quickly.
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So the millions of amateur astronomers are ALL being coerced?
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reading comprehension....got it ?
I am saying even if this is real which is obviously not...YOU WONT be informed of its genuine nature until the government is ready for mass public disclosure.
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And again, how is the government going to stop the millions of amateur astronomers out there from saying something?

Give your head a shake
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hey astro, do you think anything will happen with this alignment tomorrow? anything unusual that is?

cheers.
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No, but I'll be watching/broadcasting until after the moment of solstice tomorrow morning.
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what here on glp?
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Night skies network, I'll make a thread and link to my feed when it's up.
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clappa thanks! I will look for it.
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What about it? Here's the latest image (at its native resolution):
behind122012
Pardon the glare from the sun on the left, I haven't done anything to subtract it from the raw image. That's precisely what they did to the jpg version of the beacon image you see on the website (and not that well imho), but there's not literally a dark region there. They process those versions quite heavily, I strongly recommend downloading the raw FITS images from the FTP before you draw conclusions like "3 days of darkness approach."
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sooo.....this mean exactly what astro?
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Processing artifact from the background subtraction they're using. They usually average a previous day's images together to create a calibration image which is subtracted from the latest image so that they can elminate the glare from the sun and see the tenuous heliosphere. They only update the calibration image every so often, and as time passes it may become less and less appropriate compared to the actual glare that's present and how the CCD is responding to the light. In other words, the calibration image is currently subtracting too much.

There isn't really a "dark" region there, it's actually quite bright and if you don't compensate for it and try to just adjust the levels of the raw unprocessed beacon image to match the JPGs present online you end up blowing out the glare which is what you see with the large white region on the left side of the image:
behind122012
It seems like the calibration image they're using for the non-BEACON images is much better right now (high quality low compression versions of the same images), which is why if you go back a few days the problem vanishes instantly. Once you step forward one image into the BEACON images the problem with the calibration frame appears.

In a few days when you check back at the stereo site, the beacon JPGs will be replaced with full resolution JPGs from the non-BEACON versions, at which time the "black region" will probably either be greatly reduced or gone altogether. Standard non-BEACON images have to be processed from scratch so just because there's a problem with the BEACON processed version does not always mean there will be a problem with the full res version a few days later.
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You are literally saying that the glare from the sun has subsided beyond established non-BEACON glare-reducing image processing parameters resulting in the recent darkened STEREO images. Presumably, glare is a direct function of sun luminosity, which would mean that the sun has darkened beyond established image correcting parameters.

This begs the question: is this level of darkening unusual? If so, to what quantitative degree?
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The amount of glare is subject to a number of variables including the brightness of the sun (which varies with the presence or absence of sunspots), the spacecraft attitude, and the response of the CCD to light. So no, it's not a direct function of solar luminosity, that is only one component. Yes, solar irradiance is variable, but the amount of variation is quite small in amplitude, about .1~.3% :
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When processing these images, adjusting the strength of the background subtraction by even that very small percentage can have a large impact on the result - the processing includes a lot of aggressive contrast enhancement so even tiny differences are exaggerated.

Having done a lot of STEREO HI image processing myself, I know for a fact it's quite normal for the amount of glare to change over time which can result in artifically bright or dark regions in the image. In fact, it's why I started developing my own processing method which doesn't involve subtracting previous images but rather involves a dynamic background subtraction using only the current image:

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You people do realize you are taking information from a controlled source and if anything was wrong that information would no be available?
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So this 3 days of darkness is supposed to happen tomorrow? I don't get it. When?
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Thanks for the info nut


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Nut you remind me of my ex-wife's lawyer

No fun at all. LOL

Facts are better


That was a odd dark area that showed up
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Facts are better, you say?
Arent you the guy that propagated imminent rapture?
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Actually you folks should realize the government and amateur astronomers (majority) will most assuredly not tell you shit of any impending disaster until the fucking thing is practically on top of you and impossible to deny. Even those amateur scientists who lock on to an impending disaster will be coerced and bullied into keeping shit on a lock until further notice.

All this will be done to avoid the unstoppable raping, pillaging and apeshit slaughter that the world will inflict on itself the moment a major impending event/disaster is incoming. You people who are stupid enough to believe that you will know in advance of some major disaster are in for a fucking rude surprise. Sure maybe you are civilized and your neighbor is civilized..but your not taking the rest of the population and pshyco athiest rapist and cut throats who are waiting for that news to come so they can hit your home and tear you to bits for a can of campbells soup you have in your cupboard...

So tell me...who the fuck in their right mind would actually BE ALLOWED to spread the truth of something like a major event...thats right..NO ONE...the government will make sure of that very quickly.
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So the millions of amateur astronomers are ALL being coerced?
bsflag
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reading comprehension....got it ?
I am saying even if this is real which is obviously not...YOU WONT be informed of its genuine nature until the government is ready for mass public disclosure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28032678


And again, how is the government going to stop the millions of amateur astronomers out there from saying something?

Give your head a shake
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He apparently lives in a fantasy land, not the real world.
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I'm looking at the ahead images from back in June, and the ahead images from today, something really strange IS going on!

June: [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

Today: [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
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If you people REALLY believed this was going to happen you would not be wasting time on this board.
You would be taking your necessary belongings to your bunker or hideout.

Please explain why you are wasting time talking about it?
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Anyone have an answer to the question?
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I'm looking at the ahead images from back in June, and the ahead images from today, something really strange IS going on!

June: [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

Today: [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
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:gdb:
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I'm looking at the ahead images from back in June, and the ahead images from today, something really strange IS going on!

June: [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

Today: [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
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Ummm... there is nothing going on.
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what i'd like to see is previous footage that looks anything like what's being shown in the OP's post. If there isn't any, then it's something new at the very least! Artifacts or not...
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If you people REALLY believed this was going to happen you would not be wasting time on this board.
You would be taking your necessary belongings to your bunker or hideout.

Please explain why you are wasting time talking about it?
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Anyone have an answer to the question?
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We are already in our hideouts, wifi goes a long ways...
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Actually you folks should realize the government and amateur astronomers (majority) will most assuredly not tell you shit of any impending disaster until the fucking thing is practically on top of you and impossible to deny. Even those amateur scientists who lock on to an impending disaster will be coerced and bullied into keeping shit on a lock until further notice.

All this will be done to avoid the unstoppable raping, pillaging and apeshit slaughter that the world will inflict on itself the moment a major impending event/disaster is incoming. You people who are stupid enough to believe that you will know in advance of some major disaster are in for a fucking rude surprise. Sure maybe you are civilized and your neighbor is civilized..but your not taking the rest of the population and pshyco athiest rapist and cut throats who are waiting for that news to come so they can hit your home and tear you to bits for a can of campbells soup you have in your cupboard...

So tell me...who the fuck in their right mind would actually BE ALLOWED to spread the truth of something like a major event...thats right..NO ONE...the government will make sure of that very quickly.
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So the millions of amateur astronomers are ALL being coerced?
bsflag
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reading comprehension....got it ?
I am saying even if this is real which is obviously not...YOU WONT be informed of its genuine nature until the government is ready for mass public disclosure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28032678


And again, how is the government going to stop the millions of amateur astronomers out there from saying something?

Give your head a shake
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First off I highly doubt Millions of amateurs will be privy to what governmental teams like Nasa and other countries space programs will already have advance notice of and who will take pro active steps from freaking out the populace until the world is ready. IE Its too late ...just drop your draws and hold on tight.

Do you actually believe that out of those millions the majority are going to simply go public ? Millions of amateur scientist won't latch on to an incoming event at the same time...the same way a youtube video doesnt go viral over night... Pockets of fact filled evidence will find their way through the cracks but by and large governmental forces will do everything in the their power to enforce the cover up until they are well prepared if ever to deal with the world chaos that will ensue. This is not rocket science here and its naive to think that amateurs around the world won't be blocked or snuffed out until its too late for all of us.

World governments arent stupid..they know exactly what happens when disclosure is acknowledged.
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I'm looking at the ahead images from back in June, and the ahead images from today, something really strange IS going on!

June: [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

Today: [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
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what i'd like to see is previous footage that looks anything like what's being shown in the OP's post. If there isn't any, then it's something new at the very least! Artifacts or not...
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If you people REALLY believed this was going to happen you would not be wasting time on this board.
You would be taking your necessary belongings to your bunker or hideout.

Please explain why you are wasting time talking about it?
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Anyone have an answer to the question?
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We are already in our hideouts, wifi goes a long ways...
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what i'd like to see is previous footage that looks anything like what's being shown in the OP's post. If there isn't any, then it's something new at the very least! Artifacts or not...
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I looked though all of 2012 and half of 2011 and all i could find was in november 2011 there was some blackness but it wasnt excatly like this.
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Do you actually believe that out of those millions the majority are going to simply go public ?
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Yes.
This is not rocket science here and its naive to think that amateurs around the world won't be blocked or snuffed out until its too late for all of us.
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It is incredibly naive to think that they could be blocked or snuffed out. By the time the government realizes who knows what it'd already be too late, the information would be out there.

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What the heck is that huge black thing that's been there since the 18th Dec? Surely that ain't a black hole we are getting closer to is it?
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I'm looking at the ahead images from back in June, and the ahead images from today, something really strange IS going on!

June: [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

Today: [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
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what is causing that?

astro do you know?

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Do you actually believe that out of those millions the majority are going to simply go public ?
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Yes.
This is not rocket science here and its naive to think that amateurs around the world won't be blocked or snuffed out until its too late for all of us.
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It is incredibly naive to think that they could be blocked or snuffed out. By the time the government realizes who knows what it'd already be too late, the information would be out there.
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Have to agree with this. + 1000000000000000.
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I'm looking at the ahead images from back in June, and the ahead images from today, something really strange IS going on!

June: [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

Today: [link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]
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what is causing that?
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No idea, I don't really watch these images that often, but clearly there is a change happening... I know that Spaceweather.com was talking about strange magnetic activity on the moon, I'm wondering if this could be the cause.
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what i'd like to see is previous footage that looks anything like what's being shown in the OP's post. If there isn't any, then it's something new at the very least! Artifacts or not...
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I'm telling you, I've seen the same thing when processing the images myself as I sometimes do. When it happens I manually change the background subtraction myself to compensate (not always perfectly mind you). Their automated process doesn't even attempt to do that. It's the whole reason I started developing my own technique for processing the images dynamically rather than based on previous images.
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