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so what's the deal with this "enlightenment"?

 
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so what's the deal with this "enlightenment"?
what does it mean?

what will we achieve?
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Re: so what's the deal with this "enlightenment"?
it means "I think I am special for some reason"
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After reading The Future of an Illusion, Rolland wrote to Freud, declaring that while he completely agreed with his interpretation of the “common man’s” religion as being rooted in an infantile need for protection, Freud had neglected the true source of religion. The latter was a subjective experience that Rolland described as “oceanic,” an inner realization of mystical unity that was independent of all dogmas and creeds yet had been utilized and co-opted by the various religious traditions. [link to ahalmaas.com]
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Re: so what's the deal with this "enlightenment"?
The western enlightenment is different from the eastern enlightenment

The former is about rationalism, scientific materialism, and individualism - all of which was a response to religious and secular authoritarianism - rule by king and pope
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Re: so what's the deal with this "enlightenment"?
eastern enlightenment is about developing spiritual wisdeom
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Western enlightenment is about condemning anyone who doesn't believe the same thing you believe, and finding a church that is conveniently located and has ample parking.
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Re: so what's the deal with this "enlightenment"?
what does it mean?

what will we achieve?
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First off you go and stand in a dark room all night bare ass you count slowly to 1.000.000 then say three times heads i win tales you lose,and if that dont get you in the right frame of mind nothing will.

Say after me i must achieve then run to dark room.


post your findings we would love to know.

clappa
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Of the two types the western style of enlightenment is more profound and necessary

Spiritual wisdom can't realistically be developed in a condition of ignorance and servitude although religiosity can. Hysterical forms of religiosity have no relationship to any form of enlightenment.
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Western enlightenment is about condemning anyone who doesn't believe the same thing you believe, and finding a church that is conveniently located and has ample parking.
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Actually, western enlightenment is of SATAN. devildude
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"Western Enlightenment" is a difficult subject. It is aggravating to hear people use words like "enlightened" to describe themsleves, and then find that the person is unfamiliar with chakras, meditation, kundalini etc.

Then of course there is people that just have to seem a cut above: now in the West we have this phenomenon of people claiming they "don't believe in enlightenment" or see it as "purely subjective." Well DUH! If you haven't been there, done that, of COURSE you won't believe in it's objectivity.

And of course these ideas further erode the concept of "enlightenment" to the West. What we need is more scientists like Jung and Nietzche whose works effectively explain the concept of kundalini, the "true enlightenment" of the Eastern religions.
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Western enlightenment is about condemning anyone who doesn't believe the same thing you believe, and finding a church that is conveniently located and has ample parking.
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This concept of enlightenment is no joking matter. Civilation itself is at stake.
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Re: so what's the deal with this "enlightenment"?
This entire thread is a load of bullocks.

"Enlightenment," "renaissance," and other self-aggrandizing terms have always been used by the Illuminati. See the connection -- "light" and "lumen," as in Lucifer the light bearer?

Every one of you is spewing bullshit, especially the New Age fools.
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words are only a finger pointing to the moon.

the moon is what matters, not the finger
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This entire thread is a load of bullocks.

"Enlightenment," "renaissance," and other self-aggrandizing terms have always been used by the Illuminati. See the connection -- "light" and "lumen," as in Lucifer the light bearer?

Every one of you is spewing bullshit, especially the New Age fools.
 Quoting: Hahahahah 28872856

Looks like we have a jesus buttboy on the thread. lmao
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Re: so what's the deal with this "enlightenment"?
what does it mean?

what will we achieve?
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To be considered enlightened you must be a socialist or communist, you must be a vegan, you must not have children but worship animals and nature...you love queers and consider all people and races equal...you are generally unemployed because work is for slaves and you must smoke lots of pot...basically you need to be a worthless drug addict bum that loves queers and Negroes and doesn't eat meat.
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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what does it mean?

what will we achieve?
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To be considered enlightened you must be a socialist or communist, you must be a vegan, you must not have children but worship animals and nature...you love queers and consider all people and races equal...you are generally unemployed because work is for slaves and you must smoke lots of pot...basically you need to be a worthless drug addict bum that loves queers and Negroes and doesn't eat meat.
 Quoting: BRIEF


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Re: so what's the deal with this "enlightenment"?
what does it mean?

what will we achieve?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19097287


To be considered enlightened you must be a socialist or communist, you must be a vegan, you must not have children but worship animals and nature...you love queers and consider all people and races equal...you are generally unemployed because work is for slaves and you must smoke lots of pot...basically you need to be a worthless drug addict bum that loves queers and Negroes and doesn't eat meat.
 Quoting: BRIEF


See this is exactly what I mean. The concept has been transformed into the next "hippies" vs "John Q. Public" media spectre.

"Enlightenment" is a real thing, there will no doubt be a slew of "sour grapes" people as we have already begun to see.
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Re: so what's the deal with this "enlightenment"?
If I respond by saying that your father was a drunk who beat the tar out of you as a child and that the reason your mother died so young is because he gave her venereal disease because of all the dirty whores he fucked...

that isn't a valid argument
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If I respond by saying that your father was a drunk who beat the tar out of you as a child and that the reason your mother died so young is because he gave her venereal disease because of all the dirty whores he fucked...

that isn't a valid argument
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If I respond by saying that your father was a drunk who beat the tar out of you as a child and that the reason your mother died so young is because he gave her venereal disease because of all the dirty whores he fucked...

that isn't a valid argument
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Actually I see what you're getting at here, I suppose those interested in "enlightenment" ought to search out the answers for themselves.
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Come to the Official Vibe-Tard thread and have a look around. You will hear from many sources what their experience of this enlightenment stuff :)
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Come to the Official Vibe-Tard thread and have a look around. You will hear from many sources what their experience of this enlightenment stuff :)
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Yes, 'tis all about the vibes :)

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