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The following prophetic vision for our time was left by Cathars, the last known of whom were burned alive by the Inquisition of the Roman Catholic Church at Montsegur, Languedoc, France in 1244 AD:

The Cathar Prophecy

It has no fabric, only understanding.

It has no membership, save those who know they belong.

It has no rivals, because it is non-competitive.

It has no ambition, it seeks only to serve.

It knows no boundaries, for nationalisms are unloving.

It is not of itself, because it seeks to enrich all groups and religions.

It has no secret, no arcanum, no initiation save that of true understanding of the power of love and that, if we want it to be so, the world will change, but only if we change ourselves first.

It acknowledges all great teachers of all ages who have shown the truth of love.

Its participants will practice the truth of love in all their being.

It seeks not to teach but to be, and in being, to enrich.

It recognizes the whole planet as a Being of which we are all a part.

It recognizes that the time has come for the supreme transmutation, the ultimate alchemical act of conscious change of the world-ego into a voluntary return to the Whole.

It does not proclaim itself with a loud voice, but in the subtle realms of loving.

It salutes all those in the past who have blazed the path and have paid the price.

Its members shall know each other by their deeds and being, and by their eyes, and by no other outward sign save the fraternal embrace.

Its members will dedicate their lives to the silent loving of their neighbor and environment and the planet, while carrying out their task, however exalted or humble.

It recognizes the supremacy of the Great Idea which may only be accomplished if the human race practices love.

It has no reward to offer either here or in the hereafter save that of the ineffable joy of being and loving.

Its members shall seek to advance the cause of understanding, doing good by stealth, and teaching only by example.

Its members shall heal their neighbors, their community and our planet.

Its members shall know no fear and feel no shame, and their knowledge shall prevail over all odds.

All those who belong, belong to the church of love.
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The following prophetic vision for our time was left by Cathars, the last known of whom were burned alive by the Inquisition of the Roman Catholic Church at Montsegur, Languedoc, France in 1244 AD:

The Cathar Prophecy

It has no fabric, only understanding.

It has no membership, save those who know they belong.

It has no rivals, because it is non-competitive.

It has no ambition, it seeks only to serve.

It knows no boundaries, for nationalisms are unloving.

It is not of itself, because it seeks to enrich all groups and religions.

It has no secret, no arcanum, no initiation save that of true understanding of the power of love and that, if we want it to be so, the world will change, but only if we change ourselves first.

It acknowledges all great teachers of all ages who have shown the truth of love.

Its participants will practice the truth of love in all their being.

It seeks not to teach but to be, and in being, to enrich.

It recognizes the whole planet as a Being of which we are all a part.

It recognizes that the time has come for the supreme transmutation, the ultimate alchemical act of conscious change of the world-ego into a voluntary return to the Whole.

It does not proclaim itself with a loud voice, but in the subtle realms of loving.

It salutes all those in the past who have blazed the path and have paid the price.

Its members shall know each other by their deeds and being, and by their eyes, and by no other outward sign save the fraternal embrace.

Its members will dedicate their lives to the silent loving of their neighbor and environment and the planet, while carrying out their task, however exalted or humble.

It recognizes the supremacy of the Great Idea which may only be accomplished if the human race practices love.

It has no reward to offer either here or in the hereafter save that of the ineffable joy of being and loving.

Its members shall seek to advance the cause of understanding, doing good by stealth, and teaching only by example.

Its members shall heal their neighbors, their community and our planet.

Its members shall know no fear and feel no shame, and their knowledge shall prevail over all odds.

All those who belong, belong to the church of love.
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 Quoting: Septenary Man


Sounds like just another New Age ecumenical false religion to me. I will take the simple Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, you can have your NWO religion...
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 Quoting: Septenary Man


Sounds like just another New Age ecumenical false religion to me. I will take the simple Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, you can have your NWO religion...
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Yet, it was written in 1224. I can see who is the one fooled here. And it's not me.
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 Quoting: Septenary Man


Sounds like just another New Age ecumenical false religion to me. I will take the simple Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, you can have your NWO religion...
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


Yet, it was written in 1224. I can see who is the one fooled here. And it's not me.
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You beat me to it
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Sounds like just another New Age ecumenical false religion to me. I will take the simple Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, you can have your NWO religion...
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BTW, what do you disagree with in these words?
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Sounds like just another New Age ecumenical false religion to me. I will take the simple Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, you can have your NWO religion...
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BTW, what do you disagree with in these words?
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That it didnt have a verse number at the begining of each line

1rof1
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Sounds like just another New Age ecumenical false religion to me. I will take the simple Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, you can have your NWO religion...
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


BTW, what do you disagree with in these words?
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That it didnt have a verse number at the begining of each line

1rof1
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lol
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Ablolutely my friend... and by the way that is also the creed of Gnosis.. knowledge.. and I stand by it one hundred and twenty percent. Jesus came here to show us this, and was shuttered by politics as usual. His touch revealed the truth. All the rest is heresay and misinterpretation of what actually happened. To truly know him is to have been literally touched by him.. and that hasn't happened in 2000 years.
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That's incredible! Written in 1200 something? WOW!!!
I am gonna post this on the official vibe-tard thread if you won't :)

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Ablolutely my friend... and by the way that is also the creed of Gnosis.. knowledge.. and I stand by it one hundred and twenty percent. Jesus came here to show us this, and was shuttered by politics as usual. His touch revealed the truth. All the rest is heresay and misinterpretation of what actually happened. To truly know him is to have been literally touched by him.. and that hasn't happened in 2000 years.
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I am on the same wave length as you.
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I know it's not across the board, and is probably much worse here on GLP then out in the 'real' world, but Christian Fundies show so much obstinance and shallowness and most recognizably close mindedness than I have ever come across.

I think it's got to be GLP more than anything, but maybe not. Maybe because these kind of discussions just aren't brought up to the 'God fearing' neighbors or whatever, so it never is shown for what it is.

I am in no way against someone's beliefs, I am just making an observation. Is it really like that everywhere?
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Im impressed...do you know what day the 222 were killed?
The words of kill them all, God will know his own....


Book of love (mari, tara)
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That's incredible! Written in 1200 something? WOW!!!
I am gonna post this on the official vibe-tard thread if you won't :)
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thumbs
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Im impressed...do you know what day the 222 were killed?
The words of kill them all, God will know his own....


Book of love (mari, tara)
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Wasn't it March 13, 1224?
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We walk between the rows...

...for now!!

Tick-tock...

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Im impressed...do you know what day the 222 were killed?
The words of kill them all, God will know his own....


Book of love (mari, tara)
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Wasn\'t it March 13, 1224?
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Dammit no
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I really liked it!

But, I keep thinking of something here:
Was this translated into English? Was the original "Cathar Prophecy" written in a language other than English?

The use of the word "planet" is out of place. In the 13th Century, the world was believed to be flat, no?, especially by the Roman Catholic Church.

Now, this could be explained by the original using a different word, and whoever translated the work into English, used a more modern translation of the original word- taking some "poetic" liberty- and inserted the word "planet."

(OP) Septenary Man, can you clear this up?

{Also, what does your screenname mean? Isn't Septenary Man the name given to a petrified/frozen body of an early human?}
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Im impressed...do you know what day the 222 were killed?
The words of kill them all, God will know his own....


Book of love (mari, tara)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30336460


Wasn\'t it March 13, 1224?
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Dammit no
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Got it.

22 July 1209

In July 1209 the army commanded by Arnaud-Amaury, the Abbey of Citeaux took Beziers and massacred around 30,000 local people (or 100,000 according to another source). The defence was under the command of Raymond-Roger Trenceval III, Viscount of Beziers and Carcassonne. He tried to negotiate before the battle but he did get anywhere. He also asked in vain the help of his uncle the Count of Toulouse, Raymond VI. On July 21 the invading army, about 20.000 strong, surrounded Beziers. The bishop of Beziers tried again to negotiate. He was asked to give a list of 222 heretics in exchange for stopping the attack. The people -Catholics and Cathars- refused the offer. It was though that the siege would last a long time. However a local skirmish degenerated in full-scale battle and the city was invaded the next day, 22 July 1209. The houses were ransacked, the people killed without distinction of age, sex or religion and the town finally was put to flame. Trenceval retreated to Carcassonne. (e)
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Wow, they were involved with the Knights Templar?

Whoa...
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Wow, they were involved with the Knights Templar?

Whoa...
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Oh, yeah. I think I remember now. Cathars would let the Templars stay with them, right? So, when everything cratered in France for the Templars, the Cathars were on the radar screen immediately. Wait, I'm getting my dates confused. Templars got routed in 1307.
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 Quoting: Septenary Man


Sounds like just another New Age ecumenical false religion to me. I will take the simple Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, you can have your NWO religion...
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


Yet, it was written in 1224. I can see who is the one fooled here. And it's not me.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


LoL .. You can convince a skeptic.
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 Quoting: Septenary Man


Sounds like just another New Age ecumenical false religion to me. I will take the simple Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, you can have your NWO religion...
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


Yet, it was written in 1224. I can see who is the one fooled here. And it's not me.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


LoL .. You can convince a skeptic.
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oops .. meant CANT .. : P
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Ablolutely my friend... and by the way that is also the creed of Gnosis.. knowledge.. and I stand by it one hundred and twenty percent. Jesus came here to show us this, and was shuttered by politics as usual. His touch revealed the truth. All the rest is heresay and misinterpretation of what actually happened. To truly know him is to have been literally touched by him.. and that hasn't happened in 2000 years.
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I am on the same wave length as you.
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As do I brothers! Come, it is time! ARISE!hfbumpmoshpit
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Ablolutely my friend... and by the way that is also the creed of Gnosis.. knowledge.. and I stand by it one hundred and twenty percent. Jesus came here to show us this, and was shuttered by politics as usual. His touch revealed the truth. All the rest is heresay and misinterpretation of what actually happened. To truly know him is to have been literally touched by him.. and that hasn't happened in 2000 years.
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I am on the same wave length as you.
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As do I brothers! Come, it is time! ARISE!hfbumpmoshpit
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:nacholibre:
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Cathars, Witchcraft and the Knights Templar

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Cathars, Witchcraft and the Knights Templar

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The crushing of the Order of the Templars is one of the grossest single exploits of the Inquisition. The king of France, Philip the Fair, was bankrupt and wanted their wealth, and the pope, Clement V, felt obliged to him, because the French king had helped him buy the papal tiara. The good pope, the humane pope, permitted the Templars to be robbed and murdered after one of the worst travesties of a trial in history. Less than a week after they had been arrested, the Dominicans were torturing 140 prisoners in the Paris Temple. Thirty six of the victims died under torture. Like Bush and Blair, typically hypocritical as Christian leaders, Philip claimed he was doing God’s work, and accounted to God alone. Large numbers of the knights died under the fearful torture rather than lie about their own order.
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Wow, they were involved with the Knights Templar?

Whoa...
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Now hat is the significance of july 22?

Hint...all is in it...lol

Also cathars only had one sacrament...look to it
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Friday 13 - 10 - 1307

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i was reading this then saw your thread /z\

The Magic Mountain

A mountain near Rennes-le-Château is becoming a focal point for unwanted 2012 hype. But the true mysteries and enigmas of Bugarach are fare more interesting, with a real-life ....... character who dug for the Ark of the Covenant!
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Thousands of devotees have flocked to a mountain village in France praying that aliens will rescue them when the apocalypse comes
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