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The following prophetic vision for our time was left by Cathars, the last known of whom were burned alive by the Inquisition of the Roman Catholic Church at Montsegur, Languedoc, France in 1244 AD:

The Cathar Prophecy

It has no fabric, only understanding.

It has no membership, save those who know they belong.

It has no rivals, because it is non-competitive.

It has no ambition, it seeks only to serve.

It knows no boundaries, for nationalisms are unloving.

It is not of itself, because it seeks to enrich all groups and religions.

It has no secret, no arcanum, no initiation save that of true understanding of the power of love and that, if we want it to be so, the world will change, but only if we change ourselves first.

It acknowledges all great teachers of all ages who have shown the truth of love.

Its participants will practice the truth of love in all their being.

It seeks not to teach but to be, and in being, to enrich.

It recognizes the whole planet as a Being of which we are all a part.

It recognizes that the time has come for the supreme transmutation, the ultimate alchemical act of conscious change of the world-ego into a voluntary return to the Whole.

It does not proclaim itself with a loud voice, but in the subtle realms of loving.

It salutes all those in the past who have blazed the path and have paid the price.

Its members shall know each other by their deeds and being, and by their eyes, and by no other outward sign save the fraternal embrace.

Its members will dedicate their lives to the silent loving of their neighbor and environment and the planet, while carrying out their task, however exalted or humble.

It recognizes the supremacy of the Great Idea which may only be accomplished if the human race practices love.

It has no reward to offer either here or in the hereafter save that of the ineffable joy of being and loving.

Its members shall seek to advance the cause of understanding, doing good by stealth, and teaching only by example.

Its members shall heal their neighbors, their community and our planet.

Its members shall know no fear and feel no shame, and their knowledge shall prevail over all odds.

All those who belong, belong to the church of love.
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 Quoting: Septenary Man


Sounds like just another New Age ecumenical false religion to me. I will take the simple Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, you can have your NWO religion...
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot




Sounds like just another New Age ecumenical false religion to me. I will take the simple Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, you can have your NWO religion...

AMEN...


LOTS OF FALSE RELIGIONS ON GLP TODAY...I SUSPECT BECAUSE OF THE MAYAN 21st....

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And, what would you disagree with in the words above?
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NO JESUS CHRIST IN YOUR MESSAGE.....
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Sounds like just another New Age ecumenical false religion to me. I will take the simple Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, you can have your NWO religion...
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot




Sounds like just another New Age ecumenical false religion to me. I will take the simple Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, you can have your NWO religion...

AMEN...


LOTS OF FALSE RELIGIONS ON GLP TODAY...I SUSPECT BECAUSE OF THE MAYAN 21st....

 Quoting: christian


And, what would you disagree with in the words above?
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NO JESUS CHRIST IN YOUR MESSAGE.....
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Honestly I see Christ all over it.
- ? Nus.

-You Hold Witness I Witness

As if he could, by himself, say:
_Alive, therefore life itself.
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Sounds like just another New Age ecumenical false religion to me. I will take the simple Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, you can have your NWO religion...
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot




Sounds like just another New Age ecumenical false religion to me. I will take the simple Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, you can have your NWO religion...

AMEN...


LOTS OF FALSE RELIGIONS ON GLP TODAY...I SUSPECT BECAUSE OF THE MAYAN 21st....

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And, what would you disagree with in the words above?
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NO JESUS CHRIST IN YOUR MESSAGE.....
 Quoting: christian


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I do not need Jesus Christ to love.


I have all that I need within, and do not need to look outside of myself for answers.

The answers are within.

A person in the jungle, who has never seen a book (let alone the bible), can be aware of himself without Jesus, without the Bible.


This is what Jesus was actually preaching. IMHO.
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I really liked it!

But, I keep thinking of something here:
Was this translated into English? Was the original "Cathar Prophecy" written in a language other than English?

The use of the word "planet" is out of place. In the 13th Century, the world was believed to be flat, no?, especially by the Roman Catholic Church.

Now, this could be explained by the original using a different word, and whoever translated the work into English, used a more modern translation of the original word- taking some "poetic" liberty- and inserted the word "planet."

(OP) Septenary Man, can you clear this up?

{Also, what does your screenname mean? Isn't Septenary Man the name given to a petrified/frozen body of an early human?}
 Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer


The original language would be Occitaine as the region was named after the language spoken, Langue d'Oc.

The Cathars didn't disappear altogether, they reappeared as the Bogomils.

The irony of their beliefs being shunned by 'Christians' is quite funny...
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I do not need Jesus Christ to love.


I have all that I need within, and do not need to look outside of myself for answers.

The answers are within.

A person in the jungle, who has never seen a book (let alone the bible), can be aware of himself without Jesus, without the Bible.


This is what Jesus was actually preaching. IMHO.
 Quoting: Revguard


Your opinion has nothing to do whatsoever what is *TRUTH*

Jesus did not say anything in the OP's Thread....

You want to know what Jesus said? Open your Bible....

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...


Sounds like just another New Age ecumenical false religion to me. I will take the simple Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, you can have your NWO religion...
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot




Sounds like just another New Age ecumenical false religion to me. I will take the simple Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, you can have your NWO religion...

AMEN...


LOTS OF FALSE RELIGIONS ON GLP TODAY...I SUSPECT BECAUSE OF THE MAYAN 21st....

 Quoting: christian


And, what would you disagree with in the words above?
 Quoting: Septenary Man



NO JESUS CHRIST IN YOUR MESSAGE.....
 Quoting: christian


you are obviously going straight to hell....tounge


how much of a puppet can you be?
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Didn't the Cathars say they were going to reveal to the world the only Gospel the Jesus Christ himself had penned?
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Now that would make the egg hatch on more than just the pheonix's head
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are you referencing the Chymical Wedding?
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The following prophetic vision for our time was left by Cathars, the last known of whom were burned alive by the Inquisition of the Roman Catholic Church at Montsegur, Languedoc, France in 1244 AD:

The Cathar Prophecy

It has no fabric, only understanding.

It has no membership, save those who know they belong.

It has no rivals, because it is non-competitive.

It has no ambition, it seeks only to serve.

It knows no boundaries, for nationalisms are unloving.

It is not of itself, because it seeks to enrich all groups and religions.

It has no secret, no arcanum, no initiation save that of true understanding of the power of love and that, if we want it to be so, the world will change, but only if we change ourselves first.

It acknowledges all great teachers of all ages who have shown the truth of love.

Its participants will practice the truth of love in all their being.

It seeks not to teach but to be, and in being, to enrich.

It recognizes the whole planet as a Being of which we are all a part.

It recognizes that the time has come for the supreme transmutation, the ultimate alchemical act of conscious change of the world-ego into a voluntary return to the Whole.

It does not proclaim itself with a loud voice, but in the subtle realms of loving.

It salutes all those in the past who have blazed the path and have paid the price.

Its members shall know each other by their deeds and being, and by their eyes, and by no other outward sign save the fraternal embrace.

Its members will dedicate their lives to the silent loving of their neighbor and environment and the planet, while carrying out their task, however exalted or humble.

It recognizes the supremacy of the Great Idea which may only be accomplished if the human race practices love.

It has no reward to offer either here or in the hereafter save that of the ineffable joy of being and loving.

Its members shall seek to advance the cause of understanding, doing good by stealth, and teaching only by example.

Its members shall heal their neighbors, their community and our planet.

Its members shall know no fear and feel no shame, and their knowledge shall prevail over all odds.

All those who belong, belong to the church of love.
[link to www.melchizedekacademy.com]
 Quoting: Septenary Man


My thoughts exactly! I belong hf
Let me let you in on a little secrete of mine, as far as god goes I don't believe in your kind- I think we all god just gotter look deeper inside, that's probably what your bible means by you seek and you find.
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Heresy, Perversion and Bloodshed: Templars and the Cathars..



The Cathars were a gnostic sect, also known as the Albigensians, a name derived from the town of Albi in southern France where an ecclesiastical council condemned them for heresy in 1165.
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Heresy, Perversion and Bloodshed: Templars and the Cathars..



The Cathars were a gnostic sect, also known as the Albigensians, a name derived from the town of Albi in southern France where an ecclesiastical council condemned them for heresy in 1165.
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Aww, poor roman catholic church of the XII's..
- ? Nus.

-You Hold Witness I Witness

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_Alive, therefore life itself.
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Heresy, Perversion and Bloodshed: Templars and the Cathars..



The Cathars were a gnostic sect, also known as the Albigensians, a name derived from the town of Albi in southern France where an ecclesiastical council condemned them for heresy in 1165.
 Quoting: christian


Aww, poor roman catholic church of the XII's..
 Quoting: 1908247


Satanism and “Sacramental Drugs” in Secret Societies....


Following their schism from the Order of Sion at Gisors, the Knights Templar plunged into Satanism. They had encountered eastern mysti­cism in part from their stay in the Holy Land, and partially through integrating with the Cathars. From the Cathars they had imbibed the secret doctrines of gnosticism.

As in the Priory of Sion rituals, drugs had an important role in Templar rituals. Holy Blood authors tell us that the Knights acquired their know­ledge of drugs from their close association with the “Hashishim, or Assassins [medieval Mafia], the famous sect of militant and often fanatical adepts who were Islam’s equivalent of the Templars.
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Heresy, Perversion and Bloodshed: Templars and the Cathars..



The Cathars were a gnostic sect, also known as the Albigensians, a name derived from the town of Albi in southern France where an ecclesiastical council condemned them for heresy in 1165.
 Quoting: christian


Yeah, your religion was beautiful back then.


However, since most Cathar parfait (male) or parfaites (female) refused to recant and embrace orthodox Catholic doctrine they were burnt to death as a matter of course. And this was specifically as a result of their religious beliefs as judged heretical by the Dominican Inquisition - not due to revolt against the temporal order. The latter resulted in thousands more being butchered as at the siege of Béziers in 1209 - 7000 in total amounting to the entire population. Arnaud Amoury, the Cistercian abbot-commander wrote to the Pope:

"Today your Holiness, twenty thousand citizens were put to the sword, regardless of rank, age, or sex."

Any recanting Cathars,(first offenders only) were required to wear two yellow crosses on their clothing for the rest of their lives. Half of a 'guilty' person's property was seized by the Church. This included the property of the deceased whom the Dominican Inquisition would exhume, try and then burn posthumously for heresy which allowed them to seize assets and property from their heirs. [55] Many still resisted, taking refuge in fortresses at Fenouillèdes and Montségur, or inciting small uprisings. In 1235, the Inquisition was forced out of Albi, Narbonne, and Toulouse. Raymond-Roger de Trencavel led a military campaign in 1240, but was defeated at Carcassonne in October, then besieged at Montréal. He soon surrendered and was exiled to Aragon. In 1242, Raymond of Toulouse attempted to mount a revolt in conjunction with an English invasion, but the English were quickly repulsed and his support evaporated. He was subsequently pardoned by the king.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Heresy, Perversion and Bloodshed: Templars and the Cathars..



The Cathars were a gnostic sect, also known as the Albigensians, a name derived from the town of Albi in southern France where an ecclesiastical council condemned them for heresy in 1165.
 Quoting: christian


Yeah, your religion was beautiful back then.


However, since most Cathar parfait (male) or parfaites (female) refused to recant and embrace orthodox Catholic doctrine they were burnt to death as a matter of course. And this was specifically as a result of their religious beliefs as judged heretical by the Dominican Inquisition - not due to revolt against the temporal order. The latter resulted in thousands more being butchered as at the siege of Béziers in 1209 - 7000 in total amounting to the entire population. Arnaud Amoury, the Cistercian abbot-commander wrote to the Pope:

"Today your Holiness, twenty thousand citizens were put to the sword, regardless of rank, age, or sex."

Any recanting Cathars,(first offenders only) were required to wear two yellow crosses on their clothing for the rest of their lives. Half of a 'guilty' person's property was seized by the Church. This included the property of the deceased whom the Dominican Inquisition would exhume, try and then burn posthumously for heresy which allowed them to seize assets and property from their heirs. [55] Many still resisted, taking refuge in fortresses at Fenouillèdes and Montségur, or inciting small uprisings. In 1235, the Inquisition was forced out of Albi, Narbonne, and Toulouse. Raymond-Roger de Trencavel led a military campaign in 1240, but was defeated at Carcassonne in October, then besieged at Montréal. He soon surrendered and was exiled to Aragon. In 1242, Raymond of Toulouse attempted to mount a revolt in conjunction with an English invasion, but the English were quickly repulsed and his support evaporated. He was subsequently pardoned by the king.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Septenary Man




THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST IS A BEAUTIFUL MESSAGE AND IT WILL BE FOR ETERNITY....



HOLY HOLY..ARE YOU LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, WORTHY IS THE LAMB...


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hfhfhfhfhfhf
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The Cathars were a gnostic sect, also known as the Albigensians, a name derived from the town of Albi in southern France where an ecclesiastical council condemned them for heresy in 1165.
 Quoting: christian


Yeah, your religion was beautiful back then.


However, since most Cathar parfait (male) or parfaites (female) refused to recant and embrace orthodox Catholic doctrine they were burnt to death as a matter of course. And this was specifically as a result of their religious beliefs as judged heretical by the Dominican Inquisition - not due to revolt against the temporal order. The latter resulted in thousands more being butchered as at the siege of Béziers in 1209 - 7000 in total amounting to the entire population. Arnaud Amoury, the Cistercian abbot-commander wrote to the Pope:

"Today your Holiness, twenty thousand citizens were put to the sword, regardless of rank, age, or sex."

Any recanting Cathars,(first offenders only) were required to wear two yellow crosses on their clothing for the rest of their lives. Half of a 'guilty' person's property was seized by the Church. This included the property of the deceased whom the Dominican Inquisition would exhume, try and then burn posthumously for heresy which allowed them to seize assets and property from their heirs. [55] Many still resisted, taking refuge in fortresses at Fenouillèdes and Montségur, or inciting small uprisings. In 1235, the Inquisition was forced out of Albi, Narbonne, and Toulouse. Raymond-Roger de Trencavel led a military campaign in 1240, but was defeated at Carcassonne in October, then besieged at Montréal. He soon surrendered and was exiled to Aragon. In 1242, Raymond of Toulouse attempted to mount a revolt in conjunction with an English invasion, but the English were quickly repulsed and his support evaporated. He was subsequently pardoned by the king.

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 Quoting: Septenary Man


Yep, the "writers of the bible" (roman rulers), completely changed what Jesus taught. Changed Jesus's message, and put in all teh "fear mongering".

Although the idea of killing anyone who disagrees with them is nothing new. Even back in 1100 AD, it still wasnt new.

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Heresy, Perversion and Bloodshed: Templars and the Cathars..



The Cathars were a gnostic sect, also known as the Albigensians, a name derived from the town of Albi in southern France where an ecclesiastical council condemned them for heresy in 1165.
 Quoting: christian


Yeah, your religion was beautiful back then.
....
..... subsequently pardoned by the king.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST IS A BEAUTIFUL MESSAGE AND IT WILL BE FOR ETERNITY....



HOLY HOLY..ARE YOU LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, WORTHY IS THE LAMB...


[link to www.youtube.com]


hfhfhfhfhfhf
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Please stop yelling too. It is considered bad manners on a forum.

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The Cathars were a gnostic sect, also known as the Albigensians, a name derived from the town of Albi in southern France where an ecclesiastical council condemned them for heresy in 1165.
 Quoting: christian


Yeah, your religion was beautiful back then.
....
..... subsequently pardoned by the king.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Septenary Man




THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST IS A BEAUTIFUL MESSAGE AND IT WILL BE FOR ETERNITY....



HOLY HOLY..ARE YOU LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, WORTHY IS THE LAMB...


[link to www.youtube.com]


hfhfhfhfhfhf
 Quoting: christian


Please stop yelling too. It is considered bad manners on a forum.

capslock
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It is CALLED a SHOUT OUT TO THE LORD!!!

FOR he is WORTHY!



With a Shout, With the Voice of the Archangel, and With the Trumpet of God

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

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Nope, it is called bad manners. No matter how you try to spin it.
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Nope, it is called bad manners. No matter how you try to spin it.
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Okie dokie...
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I know it's not across the board, and is probably much worse here on GLP then out in the 'real' world, but Christian Fundies show so much obstinance and shallowness and most recognizably close mindedness than I have ever come across.

I think it's got to be GLP more than anything, but maybe not. Maybe because these kind of discussions just aren't brought up to the 'God fearing' neighbors or whatever, so it never is shown for what it is.

I am in no way against someone's beliefs, I am just making an observation. Is it really like that everywhere?
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Utter kak.
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This thread just transformed into weirdness
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This thread just transformed into weirdness
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derail
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Are you in Colorado ?
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sorry to piss on your parade,but nationalism did not exist until the 19th century.
There were no nation states before the 19th century.
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Bernard Perrona, - aka i am a fake-ass prophet that profits from the loss of his newage asslickers
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This thread just transformed into weirdness
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cruise
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THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST IS A BEAUTIFUL MESSAGE AND IT WILL BE FOR ETERNITY....
HOLY HOLY..ARE YOU LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, WORTHY IS THE LAMB...
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when YOU KNOW your thread is failing, use the 'god card' to avoid derailing.
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