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Who is the true evil; just like to see what you all think you know any questions direct them to me thnx 616 Idol1militiaheadbang
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You already know. The truth is rising within you. The fire in the heart of every man, Lucifer, is guiding you now. May it guide you well.
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It does not matter anymore.

Lucifer gave us the First Entheogen.

He gave it to us early. Because he is impatient.

But it was always gods plan to allow us to eat from each of the tree's in the Garden.


Jesus came back to give us the Fruit of the Tree of Life.


Jesus said, "If you become my disciples and pay attention to my sayings, these stones will serve you. For there are five trees in Paradise for you; they do not change, summer or winter, and their leaves do not fall. Whoever knows them will not taste death."
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Should that not be "Lucifer V Yahweh" or something like that. Because the way your question is asked denies one of the logical possibilities that needs to be considered to answer this question.

For instance, it is a possibility that Lucifer is actually the Creator God and Yahweh is an evil demon.
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LUCIFER IS GOD.
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Some think indeed this lucy is the one in charge, however the text state clearly his power is limited and controlled.


There is but one God. The others of which you speak are merely offspring of this One.

You might do well to believe God is All, for even Jesus said, pick up a stone, and there He is.
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What! Lucifer is burning our sins away?

Fire is of duality, just like the serpent, it can be used as a purifier, or used for Satanic rituals.
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So disheartening people! This is the true doom.. All the lost souls. Who is loving? Yeshua! Lucifer does not love you at all. He lies to you, accuses you, deceives you.. He doesn't want to go into the lake of fire alone, so that's why he plays with your head. When you follow him, your being fooled. If we all are still here when Yeshua returns you will be falling to your faces in repentance because you will surely know then.
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So disheartening people! This is the true doom.. All the lost souls. Who is loving? Yeshua! Lucifer does not love you at all. He lies to you, accuses you, deceives you.. He doesn't want to go into the lake of fire alone, so that's why he plays with your head. When you follow him, your being fooled. If we all are still here when Yeshua returns you will be falling to your faces in repentance because you will surely know then.
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The problem with a supposition like this is that it only applies to you. It is predicated upon the acceptance that these entities are what you personally believe them to be. To convince the non-believers you must prove these entities are what you say they are, before postulating that information about them is evidence.
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LUCIFER IS GOD.
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Or just the guiding light that leads to God.
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So disheartening people! This is the true doom.. All the lost souls. Who is loving? Yeshua! Lucifer does not love you at all. He lies to you, accuses you, deceives you.. He doesn't want to go into the lake of fire alone, so that's why he plays with your head. When you follow him, your being fooled. If we all are still here when Yeshua returns you will be falling to your faces in repentance because you will surely know then.
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The problem with a supposition like this is that it only applies to you. It is predicated upon the acceptance that these entities are what you personally believe them to be. To convince the non-believers you must prove these entities are what you say they are, before postulating that information about them is evidence.
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Scoffers want proof.. It's actually this.. having Faith. FAITH. Evidence is everywhere that Yeshua is our true savior.. but the best "proof" is his teachings. Sermon on the Mount prime example.
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So disheartening people! This is the true doom.. All the lost souls. Who is loving? Yeshua! Lucifer does not love you at all. He lies to you, accuses you, deceives you.. He doesn't want to go into the lake of fire alone, so that's why he plays with your head. When you follow him, your being fooled. If we all are still here when Yeshua returns you will be falling to your faces in repentance because you will surely know then.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26988139


The problem with a supposition like this is that it only applies to you. It is predicated upon the acceptance that these entities are what you personally believe them to be. To convince the non-believers you must prove these entities are what you say they are, before postulating that information about them is evidence.
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Scoffers want proof.. It's actually this.. having Faith. FAITH. Evidence is everywhere that Yeshua is our true savior.. but the best "proof" is his teachings. Sermon on the Mount prime example.
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Once his teachings are understood and applied, the evidence becomes more apparent.. Try it, you have nothing to lose and everything gain. (:
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So disheartening people! This is the true doom.. All the lost souls. Who is loving? Yeshua! Lucifer does not love you at all. He lies to you, accuses you, deceives you.. He doesn't want to go into the lake of fire alone, so that's why he plays with your head. When you follow him, your being fooled. If we all are still here when Yeshua returns you will be falling to your faces in repentance because you will surely know then.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26988139


The problem with a supposition like this is that it only applies to you. It is predicated upon the acceptance that these entities are what you personally believe them to be. To convince the non-believers you must prove these entities are what you say they are, before postulating that information about them is evidence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1494743


Scoffers want proof.. It's actually this.. having Faith. FAITH. Evidence is everywhere that Yeshua is our true savior.. but the best "proof" is his teachings. Sermon on the Mount prime example.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26988139


yes exactly. the modern education systems are bringing up logic and rationality minded people who want proof of everything and everything to fit together into neat packages. They want to be able to predict events based on a process of deduction. That of course only works with the tool of logic. So what happens when people believe that logic is reality? Well for one thing they dismiss faith. But you know that logic is not reality and that faith does not need things to fit together in neat little packages. In fact the human mind is so small that relying on logic is a big mistake. God does not obey the man made rules of logic and people who demand He does are trying to reduce Him to something smaller than the human imagination.
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Should that not be "Lucifer V Yahweh" or something like that. Because the way your question is asked denies one of the logical possibilities that needs to be considered to answer this question.

For instance, it is a possibility that Lucifer is actually the Creator God and Yahweh is an evil demon.
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Should that not be "Lucifer V Yahweh" or something like that. Because the way your question is asked denies one of the logical possibilities that needs to be considered to answer this question.

For instance, it is a possibility that Lucifer is actually the Creator God and Yahweh is an evil demon.
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No it should be Venus vs the Sun, because Lucifer is Luxfur which is the morning star, Venus, and the ultimate God you have come to know is the Sun!

If god did exist he it or she would be the first and foremost enemy to humanity, think about it!
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Thread: I'm Lucifer, the lightbearer - ask me a question!
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So disheartening people! This is the true doom.. All the lost souls. Who is loving? Yeshua! Lucifer does not love you at all. He lies to you, accuses you, deceives you.. He doesn't want to go into the lake of fire alone, so that's why he plays with your head. When you follow him, your being fooled. If we all are still here when Yeshua returns you will be falling to your faces in repentance because you will surely know then.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26988139


The problem with a supposition like this is that it only applies to you. It is predicated upon the acceptance that these entities are what you personally believe them to be. To convince the non-believers you must prove these entities are what you say they are, before postulating that information about them is evidence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1494743


Scoffers want proof.. It's actually this.. having Faith. FAITH. Evidence is everywhere that Yeshua is our true savior.. but the best "proof" is his teachings. Sermon on the Mount prime example.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26988139


yes exactly. the modern education systems are bringing up logic and rationality minded people who want proof of everything and everything to fit together into neat packages. They want to be able to predict events based on a process of deduction. That of course only works with the tool of logic. So what happens when people believe that logic is reality? Well for one thing they dismiss faith. But you know that logic is not reality and that faith does not need things to fit together in neat little packages. In fact the human mind is so small that relying on logic is a big mistake. God does not obey the man made rules of logic and people who demand He does are trying to reduce Him to something smaller than the human imagination.
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Oh MY GOD...I know!!! The evil educational system actually wants people to be rational and BELIEVE BY USING LOGIC. I have never heard of such a thing. We grew up in the olden days when Santa Claus was real. And then we moved on to a belief in God. We know that beliefs are always in things that we want to be true but that we know probably aren't true. Reason, Logic, rationality ruins this for US!!! I demand a refund on my tax payer money. We should ALL home school our kids so they NEVER use evil reason or logic in their thinking. AMEN
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Who is the true evil; just like to see what you all think you know any questions direct them to me thnx 616 Idol1militiaheadbang
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it depends on your definition of god

if we are discussing the eternal flame of light, than even "lucifer" follows this command....

however if you are discussing the illusions of desires and greed, and false deities who leech off our energy.. then i agree, "lucifer" wins.

however, G-D is above.

hf
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remember, the hindus know it the best

there are multiple manifestations of the one

however the one comes from the eternal light...

this is the unity..

this is the singularity...

each manifestation represents another aspect of divine evolution...
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The problem with a supposition like this is that it only applies to you. It is predicated upon the acceptance that these entities are what you personally believe them to be. To convince the non-believers you must prove these entities are what you say they are, before postulating that information about them is evidence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1494743


Scoffers want proof.. It's actually this.. having Faith. FAITH. Evidence is everywhere that Yeshua is our true savior.. but the best "proof" is his teachings. Sermon on the Mount prime example.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26988139


yes exactly. the modern education systems are bringing up logic and rationality minded people who want proof of everything and everything to fit together into neat packages. They want to be able to predict events based on a process of deduction. That of course only works with the tool of logic. So what happens when people believe that logic is reality? Well for one thing they dismiss faith. But you know that logic is not reality and that faith does not need things to fit together in neat little packages. In fact the human mind is so small that relying on logic is a big mistake. God does not obey the man made rules of logic and people who demand He does are trying to reduce Him to something smaller than the human imagination.
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Oh MY GOD...I know!!! The evil educational system actually wants people to be rational and BELIEVE BY USING LOGIC. I have never heard of such a thing. We grew up in the olden days when Santa Claus was real. And then we moved on to a belief in God. We know that beliefs are always in things that we want to be true but that we know probably aren't true. Reason, Logic, rationality ruins this for US!!! I demand a refund on my tax payer money. We should ALL home school our kids so they NEVER use evil reason or logic in their thinking. AMEN
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You hit the nail on the head friend. There are very few schools teaching non-empirically and most of them are madrassahs for the Islamic religion. Which is probably why they will dominate.
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LUCIFER IS GOD.
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Or just the guiding light that leads to God.
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u nailed it, lucifer weeds out the souls who will perish among the flame
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You already know. The truth is rising within you. The fire in the heart of every man, Lucifer, is guiding you now. May it guide you well.
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L-boogie? he will guide you towards selfish ends, egoic ends...

and will allow you to die carrying so much distorted unforgiven energy around you will be of no use to the Divine...

jucifer will squeeze your soul and fire your loins, not your heart...

God keeps him here to separate the wheat from the weeds...

so don't smoke no L-boogie!

glorify God by loving Him and His creations: your brothers and sisters and the earth...

"get behind me satan" not in front, at the side or above.... but BEEEHIIIINNNND far far back there somewhere like lil speck of forsaken fallen foolishness some people might use to make pancakes with or crash they selves in somewhere outside of Vegas...

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You already know. The truth is rising within you. The fire in the heart of every man, Lucifer, is guiding you now. May it guide you well.
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I have met Lucifer in the flesh... I know where he is incarnated.
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The problem with a supposition like this is that it only applies to you. It is predicated upon the acceptance that these entities are what you personally believe them to be. To convince the non-believers you must prove these entities are what you say they are, before postulating that information about them is evidence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1494743


Scoffers want proof.. It's actually this.. having Faith. FAITH. Evidence is everywhere that Yeshua is our true savior.. but the best "proof" is his teachings. Sermon on the Mount prime example.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26988139


yes exactly. the modern education systems are bringing up logic and rationality minded people who want proof of everything and everything to fit together into neat packages. They want to be able to predict events based on a process of deduction. That of course only works with the tool of logic. So what happens when people believe that logic is reality? Well for one thing they dismiss faith. But you know that logic is not reality and that faith does not need things to fit together in neat little packages. In fact the human mind is so small that relying on logic is a big mistake. God does not obey the man made rules of logic and people who demand He does are trying to reduce Him to something smaller than the human imagination.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25782105


Oh MY GOD...I know!!! The evil educational system actually wants people to be rational and BELIEVE BY USING LOGIC. I have never heard of such a thing. We grew up in the olden days when Santa Claus was real. And then we moved on to a belief in God. We know that beliefs are always in things that we want to be true but that we know probably aren't true. Reason, Logic, rationality ruins this for US!!! I demand a refund on my tax payer money. We should ALL home school our kids so they NEVER use evil reason or logic in their thinking. AMEN
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ain't no greater ignorance than sci-ence...

sci: ancient indo-european for "to separate"

fact: too much info out there for sci to be ri-ght, dig?

evolution is mostly lies coated over with some grant/skirt chasing professors do-what-your-told buuullllshit...

why no river in the world got more than 5,000 years of silt at the delta?

why are their stone carvings depicting dinosaurs running with the people?

why no living tree with more than 5,000 or so years of ring growth?

how can you have fossils millions and millions of years old if the soil erodes at feet per thousand?

wake up, fool, you is gettin played like a broke ass violin and you sound like it too!

:)
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my dick versus a pussy
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You already know. The truth is rising within you. The fire in the heart of every man, Lucifer, is guiding you now. May it guide you well.
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I have met Lucifer in the flesh... I know where he is incarnated.
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what does he look like?

:)
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my dick versus a pussy
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you that small... oh, son, there is help for you too!

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neither exists, so ...
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Left is Right and Right is Left in the garden of evil.
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Who is the true evil; just like to see what you all think you know any questions direct them to me thnx 616 Idol1militiaheadbang
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God created everything including evil (why, only he knows that). Lucifer will always be under Gods control, be his bitch if you will!
between the material and the astral planes...

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Who is the true evil; just like to see what you all think you know any questions direct them to me thnx 616 Idol1militiaheadbang
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God created everything including evil (why, only he knows that). Lucifer will always be under Gods control, be his bitch if you will!
 Quoting: TheBridge


yup. the goal appears to be to create free will sovereign spirit beings... who choose to glorify God...

like when you make something beautiful and it makes you really psyched... it glorifies, in a way...

intelligent design means intelligent designer--->evil is part of this creative process... it exists in this density, not in heaven... to provide an environment for the free will creations to have choice within...


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Lucifer is nothing but a poor devil literally. He's just playing a minor role, I am able to trick out the trickster. That only prooves how weak he actually is s226

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