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I can prove Adam Lanza did not shoot those kids in that school.

 
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Not a GLP gun expert but that gun was not an AR of any sort. It might've been a Saiga but also looked like a Benelli M4 semi-auto's both but that's beside the point.

What weapons were actually found in the school?
What weapons were actually found in the car outside the school?
What weapons were actually found at the mother's residence if any?
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[link to postimage.org]

here's a little screen cap montage. it does appear to be a shotgun of some sort, but what's that in the red I've circled? at first I thought it was some kinda of high capacity magazine and it kinda looks like he remove it out of the weapon(video:.02-04) doesn't it?
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And if I recall, during the early morning, while it was still daylight, the media reported a shotgun had been recovered too.
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Hate to let the air OUT of you story OP, BUT .... Photos from the air showed a SHOTGUN being taken out of the car trunk !

BUT, keep stirring the pot; something generally floats to the top, 'old boy' !
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link?
 Quoting: Salt


Hate to let the air OUT of you story OP, BUT .... Photos from the air showed a SHOTGUN being taken out of the car trunk !

BUT, keep stirring the pot; something generally floats to the top, 'old boy' !
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link?
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Officer clears the weapon by pumping it...a large red (presumably 12ga) shell was ejected. Looked like a Remington 870 or mossberg 500 to me.
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Okay, so what I'm curious about is the video showed LE removing and clearing a Mossberg from the trunk AT NIGHT. Reports all day as in daylight, indicated weapons had been found in the suspects car...so are we to believe they didn't check the trunk until nightfall? And, it begs the question, what weapon(s)was pulled out of the car during the day? Does anyone else see the inconsistencies here?
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budget constraints? couldn't afford SAG actors who don't have day jobs?

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The firearm they remove from the trunk in that video is a Saiga Shotgun w/ a 20-round drum magazine(removed in first few seconds and laid in back of trunk) and a dragunov style stock.
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Yep, sure enough, it looked like a shotgun at first but you're right.
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Hate to let the air OUT of you story OP, BUT .... Photos from the air showed a SHOTGUN being taken out of the car trunk !

BUT, keep stirring the pot; something generally floats to the top, 'old boy' !
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link?
 Quoting: Salt


Hate to let the air OUT of you story OP, BUT .... Photos from the air showed a SHOTGUN being taken out of the car trunk !

BUT, keep stirring the pot; something generally floats to the top, 'old boy' !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29216719


link?
 Quoting: Salt


Officer clears the weapon by pumping it...a large red (presumably 12ga) shell was ejected. Looked like a Remington 870 or mossberg 500 to me.
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Okay, so what I'm curious about is the video showed LE removing and clearing a Mossberg from the trunk AT NIGHT. Reports all day as in daylight, indicated weapons had been found in the suspects car...so are we to believe they didn't check the trunk until nightfall? And, it begs the question, what weapon(s)was pulled out of the car during the day? Does anyone else see the inconsistencies here?
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Fuckin eh there is no way he is clearing a pump in that vid. He is pulling on a small charging handle on the right side of the breach of a weapon. The shell that is seen looks to be a shotgun shell - probably 3" but hard to tell given the resolution but no matter it ain't an AR no matter how you look at it.

ME says all the babies he processed were shot up with a long gun. Is there a LEO that has said there was a recently fired long gun found anywhere at the crime scene?

Anyone have links to any CT LEO docs?
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Think I found a match on the weapon in the trunk.

The Legion Saiga IZ-406:

[link to www.ar15.com]


If that isn't it, it is a very similar model.
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Hate to let the air OUT of you story OP, BUT .... Photos from the air showed a SHOTGUN being taken out of the car trunk !

BUT, keep stirring the pot; something generally floats to the top, 'old boy' !
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A shotgun is not an AR15, even from a distance they clearly look different.

So first there were three weapons, and shooter used the pistols with the AR in the trunk.

Then second version, he shot everyone with the AR, and finished himself with the Glock.

Then third version, there were four weapons.

Then fourth version, there were three weapons again.

First he was Ryan aged 20, based on identification in his pocket, except that Ryan is 24 which the i.d. would have said 24 not 20.

Then he was Adam.

His mom was a teacher at the school, then she was a substitute, then no one had ever heard of her.

No one knew Adam, yet they buzzed him in because he rang the buzzer, standing there outside the door with three, no two, no four, no three weapons. Wait, they didn't buzz him in, he shot his way in. Wait, they knew him, he was the quiet one that had gone to school there.

There was an altercation a few days earlier where he had argued with the principal and the school psychologist. No, wait, there was no altercation at all.

He had an altercation with his mom, though, and shot her. Oh wait, he shot her while she was in bed asleep.

He shot his dad in Hoboken, too, oh wait, my bad, dad is still around.

His girlfriend has been missing for days, but what girlfriend was that? Haven't heard another word about the search for the mass murderer's missing girlfriend.

He didn't do it alone, there were two shooters, one of them was caught in the woods. His name? Oh, wait, even though he was dressed in dark clothing and called out to parents that "I didn't shoot them", he no never existed.

So then there was just one shooter, Adam. He (or they, depending on when you turned on the tv) were dressed all in black, or was it in camo, or maybe pants and a dark jacket, with a mask, and also without a mask.

This is exhausting.
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Bravo...best run down I've read yet, and you didn't even touch the weapons conundrum.
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[link to img515.imageshack.us]

how's this? I looks like has a dragunov style stock on it.
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Think I found a match on the weapon in the trunk.

The Legion Saiga IZ-406:

[link to www.ar15.com]


If that isn't it, it is a very similar model.
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nice work... now I don't feel like such an idiot...

still, can you imagine how hot any rifle would be after 100 rounds in3 minutes?

you'd need baking mitts...

:)
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[link to img515.imageshack.us]

how's this? I looks like has a dragunov style stock on it.
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Yep, that is a very close match as well. Only real difference is the gun in the video has a wood colored stock...
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Re: I can prove Adam Lanza did not shoot those kids in that school.
Hate to let the air OUT of you story OP, BUT .... Photos from the air showed a SHOTGUN being taken out of the car trunk !

BUT, keep stirring the pot; something generally floats to the top, 'old boy' !
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A shotgun is not an AR15, even from a distance they clearly look different.

So first there were three weapons, and shooter used the pistols with the AR in the trunk.

Then second version, he shot everyone with the AR, and finished himself with the Glock.

Then third version, there were four weapons.

Then fourth version, there were three weapons again.

First he was Ryan aged 20, based on identification in his pocket, except that Ryan is 24 which the i.d. would have said 24 not 20.

Then he was Adam.

His mom was a teacher at the school, then she was a substitute, then no one had ever heard of her.

No one knew Adam, yet they buzzed him in because he rang the buzzer, standing there outside the door with three, no two, no four, no three weapons. Wait, they didn't buzz him in, he shot his way in. Wait, they knew him, he was the quiet one that had gone to school there.

There was an altercation a few days earlier where he had argued with the principal and the school psychologist. No, wait, there was no altercation at all.

He had an altercation with his mom, though, and shot her. Oh wait, he shot her while she was in bed asleep.

He shot his dad in Hoboken, too, oh wait, my bad, dad is still around.

His girlfriend has been missing for days, but what girlfriend was that? Haven't heard another word about the search for the mass murderer's missing girlfriend.

He didn't do it alone, there were two shooters, one of them was caught in the woods. His name? Oh, wait, even though he was dressed in dark clothing and called out to parents that "I didn't shoot them", he no never existed.

So then there was just one shooter, Adam. He (or they, depending on when you turned on the tv) were dressed all in black, or was it in camo, or maybe pants and a dark jacket, with a mask, and also without a mask.

This is exhausting.
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Bravo...best run down I've read yet, and you didn't even touch the weapons conundrum.
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Pretty sure there would have been the same confused bullshit story if there had been an informed populace with the ability to communicate back when Bobby and John Kennedy were whacked.....it's much harder to control info when every tom dick and harry can save a screen cap of some "report" they see here or there so they put enough different MSM stories out that even someone who really tries to piece it all together wants to go get a subscription to paxill.....
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I think what proves that there were at least 2 shooters is in this report that says:

"Witnesses at the scene Friday morning reported seeing a man in handcuffs being led out of the woods next to the school by police. The man, who witnesses said was wearing camouflage pants, insisted on his innocence as he was being led to a state police cruiser while parents looked on."

so they brought this guy out of the woods and he was insisting on his innocence? How did this guy know what was going on? The cops probably did not know much of anything, only to look for anyone suspicious and that there was a possible shooting at the school. Cops first detain the suspect and then get them to the cop car before they start questioning you. But this guy seemed to know there was a shooting at the school already.

Read more: [link to www.newstimes.com]
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Hate to let the air OUT of you story OP, BUT .... Photos from the air showed a SHOTGUN being taken out of the car trunk !

BUT, keep stirring the pot; something generally floats to the top, 'old boy' !
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link?
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LMAO! That wasn't staged. Andd action...
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Hate to let the air OUT of you story OP, BUT .... Photos from the air showed a SHOTGUN being taken out of the car trunk !

BUT, keep stirring the pot; something generally floats to the top, 'old boy' !
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link?
 Quoting: Salt


I saw that, but it was in the dark. Gets dark around 4:15 now in CT, or at least sunset.

Planted bullshit video when they realized they fucked up the official narrative.
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What the FUCK is a "LONG-GUN"!!

Has anyone else ever heard that term before on the news?!
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What the FUCK is a "LONG-GUN"!!

Has anyone else ever heard that term before on the news?!
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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I think what proves that there were at least 2 shooters is in this report that says:

"Witnesses at the scene Friday morning reported seeing a man in handcuffs being led out of the woods next to the school by police. The man, who witnesses said was wearing camouflage pants, insisted on his innocence as he was being led to a state police cruiser while parents looked on."

so they brought this guy out of the woods and he was insisting on his innocence? How did this guy know what was going on? The cops probably did not know much of anything, only to look for anyone suspicious and that there was a possible shooting at the school. Cops first detain the suspect and then get them to the cop car before they start questioning you. But this guy seemed to know there was a shooting at the school already.

Read more: [link to www.newstimes.com]
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this is exactly what i thought...if he was in the woods, how did he even know there WAS a shooting?????

he wouldn't have, unless he was involved.
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"A witness tells WFSB-TV that a second man was taken out of the woods in handcuffs wearing a black jacket and camouflage pants and telling parents on the scene"

wait there was a reports of a second man. What?
Where is that second man now.
gone.
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this shit where they wont' let the public ever see the footage of all these fucking security cameras, that are supposedly there for our safety.

If they are there for us, why can't the public ever view them? Every single security cam seems to some sort of government classified secret.

I say confiscate the guns of all police who refuse to show you the security cam footage.
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Chris Manfredonia is the guy in the woods.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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That Chris Manfredonia story is still suspicious. If he was supposed to be in the school with his daughter, why they heck did they find him in the woods?
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Re: I can prove Adam Lanza did not shoot those kids in that school.
Here's what I heard shortly after the story broke:

Adam Lanza was found dead with 2 HANDGUNS beside him.

I also heard the report that the Bushmaster was found in the BACKSEAT of the car.... nothing was said about the TRUNK.

What I would like to know, and what (to my knowledge)nobody has asked is.... WHAT WAS ADAM SHOT WITH ? A handgun or a "long gun" ?????!!!!!
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"A witness tells WFSB-TV that a second man was taken out of the woods in handcuffs wearing a black jacket and camouflage pants and telling parents on the scene"

wait there was a reports of a second man. What?
Where is that second man now.
gone.
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this shit where they wont' let the public ever see the footage of all these fucking security cameras, that are supposedly there for our safety.

If they are there for us, why can't the public ever view them? Every single security cam seems to some sort of government classified secret.

I say confiscate the guns of all police who refuse to show you the security cam footage.
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Chris Manfredonia is the guy in the woods.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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That Chris Manfredonia story is still suspicious. If he was supposed to be in the school with his daughter, why they heck did they find him in the woods?
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Manfredonia? Seriously? Now that doesn't sound made up.
And yes, I'm being sarcastic.
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Re: I can prove Adam Lanza did not shoot those kids in that school.
...the unedited version.

The guy is full of shit.


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Why does the cop with the hat on the far right look like he is smiling?
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Because he is along with the other two cops on either side of that big gutteral draco reptilian bullshitting the story
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"A witness tells WFSB-TV that a second man was taken out of the woods in handcuffs wearing a black jacket and camouflage pants and telling parents on the scene"

wait there was a reports of a second man. What?
Where is that second man now.
gone.
 Quoting: Txheat


this shit where they wont' let the public ever see the footage of all these fucking security cameras, that are supposedly there for our safety.

If they are there for us, why can't the public ever view them? Every single security cam seems to some sort of government classified secret.

I say confiscate the guns of all police who refuse to show you the security cam footage.
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Chris Manfredonia is the guy in the woods.

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30382607

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That Chris Manfredonia story is still suspicious. If he was supposed to be in the school with his daughter, why they heck did they find him in the woods?
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The reporter who was questioning that man that saw the police come out of the woods with Chris Manfredonia was also suspicious. They witness said he saw the police bring the man out of the woods in handcuffs and then the reporter asked the witness if the man in handcuffs was armed? WTF? Yeah the cops are going to handcuff an armed suspect and let the suspect keep their gun.

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"A witness tells WFSB-TV that a second man was taken out of the woods in handcuffs wearing a black jacket and camouflage pants and telling parents on the scene"

wait there was a reports of a second man. What?
Where is that second man now.
gone.
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...


Chris Manfredonia is the guy in the woods.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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 Quoting: Jonny Blaze


That Chris Manfredonia story is still suspicious. If he was supposed to be in the school with his daughter, why they heck did they find him in the woods?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25368284


Manfredonia? Seriously? Now that doesn't sound made up.
And yes, I'm being sarcastic.
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Maybe they had to make up that bullshit story to cover up the fact they caught a CIA dude and didn't realize it... just speculating
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I still think the local reports were doing a bang up job with the news story until the FED's got there and corrected them.

Also what I find interesting is why did they release the video of the weapon being removed from the trunk? It obviously looks dark, and everything was under lock down by then. Why did it take them 6 hours to look in the trunk? A diversion perhaps? That video could have been recorded anywhere.
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Voice analysis on the coroner will prove he's John Goodman.
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Mass media is a money amking bussiness.

Lies are used to fill in holes.

Innocent until proven guilty means they just made a mistake if the story changes.

In the end...You could have disinfo agents at the scene to give false positives...lies

Or negatives that you all think are positives because you believe they are.

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KINGSTON, N.H. -- A private funeral has been held in New Hampshire for the woman whose son shot her dead at their Connecticut home and then drove to an elementary school and killed 20 children.

The police chief in Kingston says the funeral for Nancy Lanza was held Thursday at an undisclosed location.


[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

Another report from today said:

Earlier today Connecticut's chief medical examiner said that burial arraignments were being made by an undisclosed out of state funeral home and that police in New Hampshire would be fielding questions from the media.

“There is a funeral home, out of state and whose name is as yet unknown to me, who wants to claim the body discreetly,” Dr. H. Wayne Carver told the New Haven Register.
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Point is, we have intra-specie predatory psychopathic killers on the loose all throughout our country, let alone the world. They are well connected and ruthless in their activities. Then we have the MSM that spins the events to look like one disturbed individual just went coo-coo one day and goes out to public places for mass killings. We know something is wrong, the question is what are we going to do to stop this rampage of madness. The Powers want to collect all of our weapons so we become totally defenseless, then they take over 'Our Country' and 'Our World' completely. Well, we all know that can't happen, because that will just make us into sitting ducks waiting for the next time the predators wish to attack. I hope that we can wake up sooner rather than later to resolve this matter and kick these intra-specie predators to the curb once and for all. Thanks for listening to my rant.
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